I’m curious- where offshore are you looking besides Singapore, and what’s the basis for thinking the grass is greener there versus Australia? A lot of the macro forces you’ve outlined (higher rates, inflationary pressures, weaker discretionary spending, demographic shifts, etc.) are affecting most developed economies to varying degrees. And every jurisdiction comes with its own political and structural disadvantages too. The US, for example, has its own flavour of uncertainty with things like the Cheetos Mascot policy volatility, debt issues, and increasingly polarised politics.
On the CGT point, I think the impact depends heavily on how you invest. If your strategy is primarily buying growth stocks to eventually sell for capital appreciation, then yes, changes to the 50% CGT discount could materially affect after-tax returns. But if you’re buying quality businesses with the expectation that they’re in a growth phase now and may become strong dividend payers later, then CGT becomes less central to the thesis because ideally you’re not selling anyway. A lot of today’s mature dividend payers were once 'growth stocks' too.
I’d also be careful about ruling out entire sectors wholesale. “Tech is overvalued”, “miners are overvalued”, “banks are unattractive” etc. can all be true in aggregate, while still leaving individual companies with excellent fundamentals, balance sheets, pricing power, or competitive advantages. Blanket sector calls can sometimes cause you to miss opportunities hiding in plain sight.
To use a metaphor: don’t miss the forest for the trees. The forest is the broader market and long-term wealth creation that equities have historically provided despite wars, recessions, inflation shocks, political stupidity, and every other crisis investors thought would permanently derail things. The trees are the individual companies that can still compound value regardless of the macro noise. You just need to keep an eye out for the 'right tree'.
While the current environment feels uncertain, history suggests markets have climbed walls of worry many times before. We’ve seen periods with far worse economic conditions, geopolitical risks, inflation, and policy mistakes than what Australia is facing today, yet over the long run the stock market overall has still done remarkably well. That doesn’t mean every company survives, but it does argue against becoming overly pessimistic on the entire market or country.
So, which tree do you add to your back yard? I can't tell you that, but that's why we're all here isn't it? take a look at what everyone else is talking about, do a little digging of your own and I'm sure a few healthy saplings will stand out.
Those who have read my posts recently would know that I have a pretty dim view of the future of the Australian economy particularly given the idiotic predilections of Albo and his merry band of morons. So while I am currently researching foreign markets and moving more of my capital offshore I am still trying to figure out where best to be investing my money in Australia. Below are my current deliberations and I'd welcome other views and/or suggestions.
Normally in a high rate environment like this I'd be looking at the big banks. The issue here is that while I expect the mortgage side of the banking business to continue doing ok, the massive squeeze that higher interest rates, decreased consumer discretionary spending, increased fuel costs, increased energy costs, increased regulatory costs, increased minimum wages are likely to crush a lot of businesses to the point where they could start defaulting on their higher interest business loans and new loan applications are likely to crater. Add to that, Prices and P/E are higher than I like to buy at, dividend return % are low (and how long until Labor comes after franking credits) and dividend payments have not increased despite increased profits. So banks are out.
Next you have stocks reliant on discretionary spending, taking into account all of the headwinds and laundry list of increasing costs (thanks again for the economic vandalism Albo you @#$#$%^^) I mentioned above, I'd imagine a wide gamut of these companies are going to be facing reduced earnings and share price compression.
Miners? Mostly overvalued, paying small (if any) returns, facing increased production, regulatory, energy costs etc., and reduced terms of trade with the increasing Aussie dollar.
Tech? Still stupid P/E, terrible returns, SaaSpocalypse still fresh.
Agriculture? Getting belted with transport, fuel and fertiliser prices.
Then there are some macro considerations that I think could influence ASX share prices:
The removal of the 50% CGT discount is sure to impact ASX 'growth stocks'. I'm surprised I haven't seen more discussion of it here on these forums, but considering the pretty much the only profit gain in town for small cap growth stocks is capital growth, the loss of the 50% CGT discount has got to make a big difference to any 'value and return' calculation.
The degree of people like me, that have traditionally focused on Australian stocks for the tax treatments / benefits that will now move a large proportion of their capital offshore. How will that affect prices overall.
Add to that a large proportion of older investors that may just move a bunch of their money from shares to bonds and cash, which I've been hearing anecdotally from a lot of my older friends and family.
Then there is the huge demographic shift that is coming with a large proportion of superannuants who are transitioning to the pension phase of their super, the 'Great Retirement' is coming. With the need to prioritise income, what does this mean for allocation inside super funds. Is it going to benefit dividend paying stocks? 'Growth' stocks will surely have to go? Will it mean bigger moves into unlisted assets like toll roads etc.?
As our interest rates continue to rise the benefit of the currency spread is going to reduce, increasing downward pressure on returns from international holdings.
@Strawman (and everyone else) I'd be very interested in what (other than BTC obviously - though its NET return for Aussies will get smashed by the CGT discount reduction too) you reckon could be a winner with the current outlook for the Australian Economy.
I'm seriously starting to look at setting up a corporate structure in Singapore and moving all my assets over there. It's a rock show here and not the good kind.