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Added a month ago
Justification

I have revisited JIN since @Rick mentioned it in response to one of my posts.

I came up with a positive valuation, which I've gone with against my normally pessimistic tendencies, of $9.08. That is off the back of using the McNiven Formula.

More conservative Valuations give me $6.17 (increased risk premium - 12% required return instead of 10%), $5.00 (as previous but with a ROE reduced from 37% to 30%) and $4.93 (37% ROE and 15% return).

My worst valuation is just my Dividends before Franking Credit Calculation - which is 6% of the share price on anticipated forward dividends. That for JIN is $4 per share based on 24 cents per share dividend.

In the latest half-year results Management revised the target payout ratio DOWN to 30-50% of NPAT from 65-85%. Now as an investor I HATE that, but at least on this occasion it is prioritising debt repayment which along with the UK expansion should strengthen the company overall. I think it WILL hurt the share price in the interim though, as it is much less attractive for those (like me) with a dividend focus.

Most of the half year results seemed pretty positive, hopefully indicating growth, but how much and over how long remains to be seen.

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Despite this, I decided to take a small 'watch position' (already down over 5% - so not a promising start), and give it the positive valuation as a mindset exercise. Lets see how we go.

As I type this on 12 May 2026 the price is $7.23.

Rick
Added a month ago

@tomsmithidg welcome aboard and thank you for your valuations. I had a quick check of my current valuation ($12) and I’m happy to leave it where it is for now (based on a required 13% return).

At $9.00 per share I would be expecting a 15% annual return, which is a nice entry point for a quality business. This puts Jumbo on a FY26 PE of 13. Currently I believe it’s trading on a FY26 PE of 10. Not bad for a business with metrics like this.

I am very perplexed about the falling share price. I continued to add today, including in after close trading ($7.18). I think this business is an absolute bargain now. At $7.18 I have it returning $17.5% (using McNiven’s formula).

Of course this is all based on a number of assumptions about the future. If my assumptions are BS, then my valuation is also BS and I lose a lot of cash! Here are my assumptions:

For FY26 I’m working on consensus revenue and NPAT, and then calculating the other metrics accordingly;

  • Revenue $202 million
  • NPAT $39.6 million
  • EPS 70 cps
  • Current equity $125.4 million ($1.98 per share)
  • ROE 35% (70/198)
  • Gross Margin 80%
  • NPAT Margin 19.7%
  • Payout ratio 40% (policy 30% to 50%)
  • Dividend 4% fully franked (5.6% including franking credits) at $7.18 per share
  • Assuming NPAT growth at 12.5% per year

Here is the current consensus (Simply Wall Street, 4 analysts)

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Here is past performance (CommSec)

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I don’t see any signs of ROE falling below 30% over the next few years. The other consideration that is making Jumbo more valuable is the change to the dividend policy (reduced to 30% -50% payout ratio). Most investors see this as a negative. However, reinvesting earnings into the business when ROE is over 30% is excellent use of capital (see diagram below).

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Either the market or the analysts have Jumbo wrong. We’re in the middle of confession season, so I don’t think we’ll have to wait long to find out!

Held IRL and accumulating (2.5%)

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SudMav
Added a month ago

Welcome to the club Tom and thanks for the writeup Rick. This one has been beaten down very far below the 200 day moving day average and seems to be very cheap using McNiven. However, I still have some reservations that make it hard for me to narrow my valuation range.

The main thing that worries me? Up until now Jumbo has been a bit a full lottery play which is a defensive play that typically holds up well when times get tough. What I cant currently guarantee is how resilient the dream car giveaway market is during the current environment with high petrol prices and increased uncertainty fare on the willingness to buy these types of tickets. These headwinds that they are facing are the exact inverse of the tailwinds that saw these businesses skyrocket in interest during the COVID period. We have already seen an almost doubling of the marketing expense for lottery, so its not that far a stretch to see some of these costs increase in a higher cost of living environment.

I know that the full impact of the 2 x acquisitions didn't hit the full financial year, but right now I'm struggling to see them make the 200m revenue target this financial year (36% increase from H1). The range of analysis puts them in the $33-40m NPAT range, which equates to around a 20% NPAT margin (which tracks based on their history) taking into account some potential slowdown in ticket sales and a jackpot cycle that hasn't shot the lights out this half.

That said, I feel that a large element of the current price relates to the continued negative momentum of the share price over the last 12 months, paired with the SAAS crash/AI opportunities. My updated valuation also sits around the $9 range, as long as they don't have any significant changes/downgrades this FY. I just don’t have the confidence in the figures right now.

As they say, fortune favours the brave and right now, that's not me.

As a shareholder, I'm hoping this one can reverse the current price trajectory and also reward you for your analysis and accumulation at these prices.

Disc: Held IRL 2% and SM 5% (expecting to trim after earnings)

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Karmast
Added a month ago

@tomsmithidg @Rick and @SudMav I was fortunate to attend a meeting last night where Mike Verveka gave a detailed presentation on the business. He is surprised and frustrated with the current sentiment, particularly given he also owns 15% of the business. The key takeaways for me were -

  • He expects about $88 million of EBITDA for this year
  • He expects over $100 million in EBITDA for FY27
  • The UK acquisition is going very well so far
  • The US acquisition is no where near as sophisticated or high frequency as the UK. But thats why he bought it (off Private Equity who weren't running it well), so that he can bring Jumbos polish to it in the next few years.
  • No new acquisitions planned and no new countries needed. But if the latest two go well over the next couple of years, then there could be another bolt on or two after that
  • Now that TLC have locked in another 40 years of running the lottery this month, it's probable Mike will try and nut out an extension to the TLC agreement over the next year or so.
  • Debt has already been paid down to around $90 million and they intend to continue to pay it down for the next couple of years
  • Despite that, with the fall in the share price the dividend is back up to around a 5% yield even with the reduced payout ratio


I'm very happy with the business and leadership. It is a screaming bargain at these levels from what I can see. And profitable, growing businesses like this, that pay healthy dividends, could very well re rate quickly given what the government has just announced re CGT changes...

My bigger worry is Private Equity or a big International player lobs an offer at them that Mike just can't pass up. Otherwise, I expect around a 20% p.a. return for the next 5 years at the current price of $7.30.

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Rick
Added a month ago

@Karmast @tomsmithidg @SudMav Karmast thank you for sharing those meeting notes. That’s absolute gold! I believe I just recovered my Strawman subs in one straw! Where else do you get inside info like that?

Interesting that we both have independently arrived at 18% to 20% annual return on the current share price. Through different analysis I believe? I acknowledge there’s still a lot of risk ahead, however the potential upside looks probable, and your meeting with Mike has helped to confirm this.

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SudMav
Added a month ago

Thanks @Karmast. Like @Rick said this has been a ripper update and addresses some of my conservatism around the business. Clearly I was wrong on this one!

$88m of EBITDA would be a cracking result and would definitely get them up pretty close to the $40m NPAT mark for the year.

Eagerly awaiting for the results and hopefully a nice big Powerball jackpot to close out the FY.

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