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Added a month ago

This was our 3rd SM meeting (having had 2 in 2024) and about the 12th-15th time I've heard Brian over the years I've been following the company - albeit mostly from the sidelines.

My key takeaway was his confidence on where they are in the US, 4 years into building the direct Myriad sales force backed by great clinical data, as well as the other growth options at hand.

On Myriad, having cautiously held that team flat for 3 years (if you go back and look at the investor presentation, the prouctivity growth has been exceptional), to now add +10-15 reps per year plus a one-off beefing up US management, is the most significant step they've taken directly in recent years. And it is part of a clear program to get to 100-120 reps over 3-5 years. So, I definifely see upside on the revenue growth for Myriad than I have in my central case valuation. And given the lag effect as new reps become effective, we could see modest growth (c. 30% for Myriad) in FY27, accelerate onwards in FY28. (There is ample precedent in the US hospital dermal repair market, for example, a few years ago when BTM for $PNV was at the same stage.)

I think the meeting properly conveyed "the time is now, we have to have a go" for Symphony. Because the outpatient DFU/VLU market is huge and being disrupted now, a $4m scale-up in sales force and "infrastructure" to support distributors, is hardly a large bet. Brian made clear that if they get traction this year, then there is a clear opportunity to intensify resources allocated to Symphony. I can't wait to read the full RCT paper, because a lot hangs on that. If it is strong enough to support a PMA (as a future step), and win support for a claim of superiority to current standard of care in particular wound types, then it could on its own become a $100m - $200m+ product over time. But Brian's cautiousness shines through, as he is not talking about numbers like that, because he wants to see the first cautious steps pay off.

With their limited capacity, putting Enivo on the back burner makes sense. It now sounds like they will only be doing what they can with existing R&D fixed cost base, which means no further significant clinical development for the next year. But Brian still sounds very positive about the product for the longer term.

I like the US-focus, but I also like that they are seeing opportunities to push (their distributors!) a bit harder in target markets: Canada, UK, Ger, Swiss., Austria and even a niche application in India by the sounds of it.

On Ovitex, I've never heard him speak before so candidly about TELA Bio. Clearly, the Board has discussed options. It sounds like the plan is stick with them for now with the belief that the headwinds are temporary (he didn't refer to the lawsuit TELA has filed against their competitor claiming anti-competive conduct in locking in accounts for 80% market share, nor did he reveal TELA's own admission that they have allowed their sales to become too concentrated in a small number of accounts as I read their disclosures in the last Q earnings call.)

So the Ovitex options in the event of TELA's failure are:

i) sell the asset

ii) assign to another dsitributor

iii) go direct

All three would see a loss of market traction, but Brian indicates that he see's this as temporary. (I could see them going backward for 1 year, and then having another 2-3 to build back.) With TELA cashed up for a year, $ARX will get early warning via the quarterly reporting, so any "shock" looks to be a FY28+ thing. But his point was that it is less material to them now that in the past (41% of revenue in FY26 vs. 63% in FY22). So it it hardly existential. (As a sensitivity on my valuation central case of $0.85, if I dialed back Ovitex growth from 6% p.a. to 0% p.a., my $0.85 expected value falls to around $0.64.)

So, these are just a few reflections. But overall, I am becoming more impressed with Brian over time. There is a consistency in the approach, but importantly the strategy and priorities have evolved coherently with the progress of the business and the evolving market opportunity.

$ARX is today 4.8% of my RL ASX portfolio and the SP of $0.66 is still close to my entry price and well-positioned according to my valuation range ($0.60 - $1.20). I think I will look across my more speculative holdings and re-allocate some more to $ARX, such is my confidence in management. If Brian can execute his plans, then I think the market will view this business quite differently a year down the track.

Disc: Held

mushroompanda
Added a month ago

Great meeting once again @Strawman!

It was great to hear from Brian, especially around why now is a good time to increase the operating cost base. All the answers make sense given that now is the right time to scale sales in Myriad and bootstrap the Symphony opportunity, given the urgency of the window.

Of late, a few of my portfolio companies have declared an "investment year" just as they've hit profitability inflection. And I confess, I felt a level of frustration when Aroa declared one too.

There's a clear disparity in valuations between companies that have passed profitability inflection and continue to demonstrate operating leverage, and those that haven't. A share price multiple more in line with the general market isn't just something that makes shareholders feel warm and fuzzy in the short term - it's also optionality. Especially if one of those options, in the case of a TELA Bio failure, is to take them out. A higher share price would mean potentially significantly less dilution should that option eventuate.

Another example would be RAS Technology, should the continued APAC expansion include bolt-on beachhead acquisitions. Sometimes it's better to go slower, then faster. Catapult Sports played this to a tee - demonstrating operating leverage, getting the share price up, and then raising money at 10x revenue to acquire PERCH and IMPECT.

But yeah, back to ARX. Hard to fault the "investment year" reasoning. Brian and the team are, I believe, showing the right amount of restraint and balance as evidenced by the pausing of R&D on Enivo.

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@mushroompanda I have the same view and hoped they would push a little less harder on top line growth to let more of a trajectory develop at the EBITDA and NPAT lines.

My hope is that the guidance is conversative and that strong Myriad means they outperform on the bottom line as well. Brian has demonstrated good awareness of setting beatable expectations, and the “misses” have usually been when factors have been out of their control (e.g. TELA destocking).

But there’s no denying, you can’t beat profitable growth. And that’s why I want to see what 1H FY27 presents before taking a bigger swing at this one.

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Strawman
Added a month ago

For sure, profitable growth is always preferable.

Speaking of RAS technology (RTH) their CEO has agreed to come back for another chat next month. Keen for an update their too.

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Strawman
Added a month ago

You lay it out well @mikebrisy -- I can definitely see the appeal.

(btw -- transcript is here if anyone wants: Aroa Transcript.pdf)

~2.2x revenue for a company that is moving forward with a good bit of sales momentum from a hard fought and seemingly strong foundation doesnt seem crazy. Especially with so many of the usual pitfalls avoided (so far at least) it feels substantially de-risked compared to the first time we spoke with Brian. Time will tell, as it always does, but investing more in sales strikes me as totally sensible at this point. Even if it impacts the immediate profit growth. In fact, if not at this point, then when?

It's rather interesting, and i may take a little starter position here on Strawman.

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Strawman I meant to add that I found the meeting really useful. Having watching the FY26 results and just done all the work to completely redo my valuation, it was good to get a more in-depth and relaxed discussion with Brian about the key opportunities, decsions and issues in the business. What gives me such confidence is that everything he said was 100% consistent with his recent FY26 presentation and analyst Q&A, although on quite a few of the topics we got quite a some more colour in this more relaxed and informal setting.

Those few additional things I am aware of (e.g. from TELA disclosures/analyst Q&A) that he didn't volunteer, were all entirely appropriate, as they were not points for him to make, given the long-standing strategic relationship with TELA as a key partner.

Whenever I hear Brian (and his CFO speaking) I get the impression that they are telling things exactly as they see them. The language is neutral and understated and never unduly promotional. That inspires confidence because I spend less time have to try and "read between the lines" or consistency check with what has been said before to see what's changed.

(Of course, it plays to my inherent bias that he is a Kiwi!)

I think the market is still not convinced about $ARX, so I've set a price alert at $0.60 - at which point I think I will add a litte more. My next trigger for a significant "add" will be 1H FY27 to see the pcp progression on Myriad (which by that point won't reflect much from new sales heads added but ongoing sales force productivity momentum), and hopefully have the Symphony RCT published. My hard-learned lesson is not to go too big too soon on biotech/medtech - and to resist the "feel good" factor, which has burned me in the past!

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