Not possible you might say…and don’t go near the banks says @Strawmanand most other Strawpeople!

How could a business with zero growth that just scrapes in on double digit ROE (10%) return it’s investors 14% in just 13 months? A few things need to go right to achieve this return. Tomorrow Westpac will go ex-dividend (72 cps fully franked, or $1.02 including the credits). Over the next 13 months Westpac will likely pay out 3 similar dividends totalling $3.06. That’s a 14% return if you include the franking credits.

Is this a dividend trap? Yes, most likely if you are thinking long-term. Why would you buy a business with zero growth?

In my view Westpac is not a keeper! However if you managed to sell the stock after the next 3 dividends (includes the upcoming dividend) at the current price, then your return would be 14%. The consensus target price from 15 analysts on Simply Wall Street is $21.80. So capital growth is unlikely, and you need the current value to be maintained to achieve a 14% return.

This strategy is not without its risks though. With the recent 0.25% interest rate hike (and the possibly of more to come), there will be more distressed clients and more defaults on home loan repayments. Not to mention, the RBA might overshoot the mark sending the economy into a recession. The big four won’t fair too well under these circumstances. They won’t go broke, but you might be waiting a long while to recover your investment capital!

This strategy is not for everyone, and not my preferred style of investment either. However, given the banks are so unloved at the moment and Westpac lost over 2.5% yesterday in anticipation of the RBA interest rate announcement, particularly following a good result the day before, I couldn’t resist IRL! The on-market share buy back should help maintain the share price also. I guess time will tell!

Disc: “Just think what else you could be doing with your money” and “There’s a good chance you’re about to lose” - borrowed from Sports Bet! :)

At the end of October 2023 Westpac traded below $21 per share and there was very little interest from the market, even with the 3.4% fully franked dividend (4.9% gross) come November. Today Westpac closed at $26.94, up 28.3%. Including the dividend Westpac has returned an incredible 33% in just 4 months (including franking credits). In fact the ‘Big Four’ banks are all trading at 12 month highs with CBA and NAB both up over 22% and ANZ up over 13%. What’s going on?

In my opinion Westpac was undervalued in October 2023 (indicating a 14% total return including the dividend), and now I think it’s overvalued (indicating approx 9% return). I don’t see much has changed in the outlook for banks since October 2023 either. The economy is struggling and net interest margins are back under pressure with increasing competition. Go figure!

Today economists warned Australia is facing another year of weak conditions that will squeeze company profits, push up unemployment and risk sending the budget into deficit, after growth slumped to 1.5 per cent (https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/gdp-growth-slumps-to-1-5pc-as-households-cut-back-20240306-p5fa6u).

Using McNiven’s Formula and assuming forward ROE of 9.3%, 70% of earnings paid out as fully franked dividends, and a required return of 10%, I get a valuation of $24.62. At the current share price of $26.94 you might expect a total annual return of 9.3% providing net margins hold up and the economy doesn’t weaken further. This is still a nice return if banks held their current share prices, but I can’t see this happening for too much longer, and there are better opportunities elsewhere in the market.

After accumulating during October last year, I’ve now sold all our Westpac shares and currently I’m currently reducing our NAB and ANZ holdings also.

Still holding NAB, CBA and ANZ IRL (total 11% of portfolios)

Couple of days ago my internet banking access to St George got revoked after I tried to transfer money for a share purchase plan because it looked "suspicious"

I then had to go through their fraud hotline. 1st call was in the middle of the night and was on hold for 2 hours before I hung up. Then I called the main internet access number. After being on hold for 40min they told me the fraud hotline was the only option to get back my access.

2nd call to fraud hotline was in the morning on hold for 1.5 hours before I got through. Had to convince them the transfer was legit (had the obvious letterhead and everything was announced on the ASX) before my access was enabled.

Would be interested to hear if anyone else had these sort of issues with St George/Westpac or even other big banks. But putting a customer on hold for so long for something so serious is not a good look.

Think I may switch banks...

Just when the fund managers are pulling out the charts to show clients why they should be selling bank stocks due to historical poor performance (the Call), I’m going to say Westpac is close to a BUY!

Not just because I like to be contrarian, but because by investing in Westpac now there is a high probability you could double your money in 5 1/2 years (in a tax free account). If you are hoping for better returns than that you should probably avoid this boring old bank and stop reading here!

Westpac is within a whisker of trading at book value. The book value is about $20.50 and the share price is $21.50. When Westpac trades below $21.00 I think it is a BUY.

Over six years from 2014 to 2020 Westpac’s return on equity fell from 15.8% to 4.6%. Now that is absolutely terrible! This is the reason why total returns for Westpac have been dismal.

The good news is that ROE is turning around for banks. For Westpac ROE has been 9.2% and 9.3% over the last two years and it is forecast by analysts to be over 10% for the next 3 years. Out of the big four, Morgans think Westpac is most likely to improve ROE (See article by James Mickleboro from The Motley Fool):

“Morgans is a fan of the company and has an add rating and $25.80 price target on its shares. It commented:

We view WBC as having the greatest potential for return on equity improvement amongst the major banks if its business transformation initiatives prove successful. The sources of this improvement include improved loan origination and processing capability, cost reductions (including from divestments and cost-out), rapid leverage to higher rates environment, and reduced regulatory credit risk intensity of non-home loan book.

Morgans is expecting this to lead to a fully franked dividend 153 cents per share in FY 2023. Based on the current Westpac share price of $21.79, this will mean a sizeable 7% yield.”

Ignoring Morgans share price target, I will show you why it is highly probable you could double your investment in Westpac in 5 1/2 years.

Let’s assume you buy Westpac at book value and ROE can be sustained at 10% for the next 6 years. I don’t think that is too demanding.

Westpac generally pays out about 70% of its earnings as dividends and reinvests the other 30% into growth.

The 70% paid as dividends gives you a 7% return (70% x 10%). If you include the franking credits that gives you a 10% return (7% divided by 0.7).

The remaining 30% of the earnings is reinvested to add 3% to the book value (10% by 30% = 3%). Let’s assume that Westpac will continue to trade at around book value for the next 6 years with share value growing at 3% per year. That doesn’t sound too demanding either and it is similar to the last 10 years (Commsec chart below).

So the total return for Westpac would be the 10% grossed up dividend (which includes the franking credits) plus the 3% added to book value each year. That gives you a total return of 13% per year. Let’s assume all grossed up dividends are reinvested back into Westpac shares tax free (a pension stream account…with less than $3million…ha ha!).

You could use a compound interest calculator to work out how long it takes to double your original investment at 13% per year, or you could simply use the Rule of 72 where you divide 72 by the rate of return (13%). Providing Westpac can continue to deliver a 10% ROE over the next 6 years you should double your investment in 5 1/2 years. The risk/reward sounds reasonable to me so I have decided to jump in a little early. With the SVB collapse jitters still in the air I think Westpac is likely to trade at or below book value this week.

As an added bonus, Westpac should pay a grossed up dividend close to 5% in June!

Disc: Taking a nibble!

In support of @Rick 's post on WBC, Morningstar thave them as the pick of the big 4, for much the same reasoning: ROE should return to 10% by 2024, there is no real comparison between SVB and the WBC loan book, a mortgage delinquency catastrophe is unlikely.

ASX futures are not looking good for trading today (Brace for impact!!) , so this might be the day it drops under $21!!

C