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Pinned straw:

Added 9 months ago

has anyone any thoughts on the merge of Chemist Warehouse and Sigma Healthcare, will the name change or will they leave as is

with the new stores planned for overseas i would think this would be a growth stock

any feedback will be great as im invested into sigma healthcare limited SIG

Bear77
Added 9 months ago

They will certainly keep the Chemist Warehouse name @Eand because it has so much brand value, being associated with the cheapest pharmacies in Australia, like the Bunnings of Pharmacies, however the parent company will also likely remain known as Sigma Healthcare, with Chemist Warehouse just being a division of Sigma. When companies merge like this, they only normally rebrand when they think that rebranding will give them an advantage, so any pharmacies already owned by Sigma before the merger would likely be rebranded Chemist Warehouse, but not the other way around, because the Chemist Warehouse name drives traffic into the stores.

Often, when companies make acquisitions or merge with other companies - which is also technically an acquisition as it was in this case where Sigma acquired Chemist Warehouse - they may choose to continue to operate under different names, such as when Nick Scali bought "Plush" from Greenlit Brands in late 2021 for $110 million, they did not rebrand the Plush stores, so today they still operate under two brands, Nick Scali Furniture and Plush-Think Sofas.

One of the reasons for operating multiple brand names (or store names) might be that the brands have different target customers (demographics), but there can be a variety of reasons why a company may choose not to rebrand, or to rebrand. In Sigma's case, they would be crazy to change the Chemist Warehouse name, because of how strong that name is in terms of brand recognition and association with lower prices.

It should also be noted that Sigma do different things other than run pharmacies. Traditionally they have been one of Australia's largest pharmaceutical wholesalers and distributors, buying from all suppliers and selling to ALL pharmacies. They also offer services in hospital pharmacy, contract logistics, and dose administration. So it's common for companies who provide different services to have different names for their various business segments or divisions.

In their case, the Sigma name likely has significant value as a leading pharmaceutical wholesaler here in Australia, so that's another reason why it wouldn't make sense to rebrand that part of their business - don't change it if it's not broken. So my best guess is they continue to run with the brand names they've got, so no significant rebranding.

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Bear77
Added 8 months ago

Saw this tonight @Eand

Street Talk - AFR:

Bankers circle Chemist Warehouse founders’ $16b-plus stake

by Sarah ThompsonKanika Sood and Emma Rapaport, AFR. Apr 21, 2025 – 6.29pm

It’s time for the big guns to come out at the $34 billion Sigma Healthcare amid a wave of selling triggered by Chemist Warehouse’s reverse listing.

Sources told this column Australia’s biggest investment banks – galvanised by the prospect of another lean year on the fees front – are throwing everything they’ve got at wooing Chemist Warehouse co-founders Jack Gance, Sam Gance and Mario Verrocchi, ahead of the first leg of expiries on escrows or selling restrictions.

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Chemist Warehouse founders Mario Verrocchi and Jack Gance. Eamon Gallagher


The three own about $16.7 billion worth of Sigma shares, and are allowed to sell 10 per cent – $1.7 billion or about 559 million shares – after the FY25 results. Investment banks know that’s a fraction of the billions they have already traded on behalf of smaller Chemist Warehouse franchisee owners, but there’s a bigger prize down the line – the founders’ remaining 90 per cent that comes out of escrows with the FY26 results.

Street Talk isn’t suggesting the Gances or Verrocchi have committed to selling – they’ve pocketed fat dividend cheques for decades, and are widely expected to wait a bit longer for passive flows to work their magic on Sigma’s share price. But that won’t stop the bankers, who’ve got the scent of a big pay cheque in their nostrils.

As noted by this column, Barrenjoey, Goldman Sachs, Unified Capital Partners and David Di Pilla’s favourite Morgans have done brisk trade in Sigma shares in recent weeks.

Gance jnr leads the charge

It comes after Street Talk last week noted that around $300 million shares in Sigma Healthcare traded via Barrenjoey’s equity desk, with fingers pointing at Chemist Warehouse franchisees. A change of director’s interest notice, filed on Wednesday, confirmed this was the case as Damien Gance sold 100 million shares at $2.97 a pop in an off-market sale. Gance also goes by a different title: director. Gance, a pharmacist by trade and the son of Chemist Warehouse founder Sam Gance, was the retail giant’s first franchisee, opening the first Chemist Warehouse pharmacy in June 2000.

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Damien Gance from Chemist Warehouse. Jesse Marlow


Gance junior was Chemist Warehouse’s long-time commercial director and was named to the Sigma board in February after the $30 billion merger with interests in over 400 million securities. But the director has been in sell-down mode since, disposing of 40 million shares in mid-February and 100 million last week.

Sigma Healthcare managing director Vikesh Ramsunder has also been selling, trading 11.7 million shares in February at $2.92 per share on the market.

Street Talk understands investment banks are still sitting on more than $1 billion worth of sell orders from smaller franchisees, who will be hoping to get out before the June 30 results in case the big bosses commence selling. Game theory, anyone?

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Source: https://www.afr.com/street-talk/bankers-circle-chemist-warehouse-founders-16b-plus-stake-20250421-p5lt5g



That (above) was published Monday evening (last night). The following was published by the same Street Talk crew at the AFR back in February:

Street Talk - AFR:

Chemist Warehouse’s $34b debut has bulge-bracket banks licking their wounds

by Sarah ThompsonKanika Sood and Emma Rapaport, AFR. Feb 13, 2025 – 8.01pm

It’s the largest addition to the ASX boards ever. But Chemist Warehouse’s $34 billion public markets debut has also turned out to be a big disappointment for bulge-bracket investment banks’ bosses.

As the dust settled on the pharmacy giant’s first day as a publicly tradable entity, it was mid-tier stockbroker Morgans that had traded the lion’s share of the nearly $1 billion worth of Sigma shares that changed hands. Known to be close to the Di Pilla family, Morgans kept chipping away at small but numerous sell orders on behalf of Chemist Warehouse franchisees. It ended the day with a 28.6 per cent market share, according to Bloomberg.

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A crowd of franchisees, advisers, family and friends, and employees cheer at the bell-ringing ceremony on Thursday.  Louie Douvis


That was in line with how the day began, with Sydney’s Unified Capital Partners – not a Wall Street bank – having already sold a nearly $110 million block on behalf of a couple of franchisees, several hours before founders Mario Verrocchi and the Gances were due to ring the bell at the ASX.

UBS caught up through the day, coming in second on market share. Wall Street giant Citi, nursing a circa $75 million loss from a Goodman Group block trade in December, had dusted itself off and was among the first out of the gates at the opening bell and ended at the third spot.

Barrenjoey placed fourth, followed by Morgan Stanley. As this column has noted, the franchisees were handed Sigma shares a day before the trading began, blindsiding some ECM teams.

Of note, sources suggested the $10 million-plus block trades, rather than the share of day’s trading volumes, were a truer measurer of banks’ market share as well as the franchisees’ selldowns. On this yardstick, Morgans sold nearly $200 million, Citi nabbed $90 million and Barrenjoey had $73.7 million.


Rothschild, Oaktower Partnership’s moment

While every equities desk tries its best, the fact is neither succeeded in shaking out what we now know could have been a billion-dollar block trade.

The only advisory houses expected to walk away with sizeable cheques – and league table deal credit – are Rothschild, led by Melbourne boss Sam Prentice and Sydney’s head of equity solutions Stuart Dettman, and Oaktower Partnership, where Terry Walsh and Jason Mendoza have been advising Verrocchi and the Gances for the better part of the past decade.

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Goldman Sachs’ Melbourne-based executive directors Lisa Tan and Stuart McKelvie advised Sigma. The bank also ran a $200 million raising for Sigma last year, but was largely missing in action in Thursday’s trading.

Several sources blamed the lack of a mega block trade on ANZ’s botched capital raising from 2015, where the underwriting banks’ deliberations on whether to hold or sell their combined leftover shares raised ACCC’s eyebrows. That incident, sources said, had killed investment banks’ offers to Chemist Warehouse to wrap several selling franchisees into a mega block trade, as noted by this column.

Sigma shares ended the day’s trading 5.4 per cent higher, laying to rest concerns about a bloodbath from the franchisees’ sell orders. Plenty of people were caught short and came out in droves to buy, while others took the view that Chemist Warehouse was among the highest-quality addition to the ASX boards in years despite the short-term noise around the un-escrowed franchisees. Yet another cohort is waiting to see where the share price settles before jumping in.

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Source: https://www.afr.com/street-talk/chemist-warehouse-s-34b-debut-has-bulge-bracket-banks-licking-their-wounds-20250212-p5lbid


Bear77 Comment: I don't hold this one, and don't follow them closely, but based on this one year chart (below), I would say the selling that AFR Street Talk is reporting hasn't done too much damage to the SIG share price.

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Of course, the risk of shares coming out of escrow and being sold, putting downward pressure on the SIG share price is a real risk, however it's only 10% of the Chemist Warehouse founders' holdings that are initially coming out of escrow (so that 10% will no longer have any selling restrictions), and that represents only 4.89% of SIG's total shares on issue (SOI). It's that 10% of the founders' holdings (4.89% of SIG's SOI) that the latest AFR Street Talk article is talking about (the first article above, not the second one) that is due to come out of escrow with the release of SIG's FY25 full year report in August this year, and the other 90% (or 43.3% of SIG's SOI) remains escrowed for another year, so common sense suggests it is not in the CW founders' interests to crash the SIG share price for the sake of selling that 10% when they are still holding 90% of the shares they received when Sigma and CW merged (the reverse takeover of Sigma by Chemist Warehouse).

Any CW founder selling in or after August would likely be done via block trades, and in any case even if sold on-market it would most likely be done in an orderly way working with available market liquidity. These founders will want to cash up at some stage, however if it is done in an orderly way, it doesn't have to be a major negative for other smaller retail shareholders of Sigma. While they still remain major shareholders, it is in those founders' own best interests to keep the SIG share price as high as possible, and with 90% of their shares remaining escrowed until August 2026, it's as we get near to August 2026 that it becomes much more of an issue.

To be clear, that 90% that is escrowed until August 2026 represents 43.3% of all SIG shares today, and the 10% the Chemist Warehouse founders will be able to sell in August this year (2025) only represents 4.89% of SIG shares on issue. Next August (2026) is therefore WAY more important in this context than this August (2025) - in terms of possible / potential downward pressure on the SIG share price, IMO.

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Solvetheriddle
Added 8 months ago

Had my first look at this one over easter. it is difficult with a merger of a struggling biz, SIG, with a January year-end and an unlisted Chemist warehouse with a June year-end. so had to work off pro formas. the trouble I had here was that CW is great, and the outlook is strong, returns, growth profile, apparent and profitable. the SIG biz , which i have looked at on and off for 20 years, still doesn't look that great. revenues are about the same, CW way more profitable. i dont know why CW merged with a struggler to list but it dilutes the growth profile from what i can see. one to follow closely but I cant make the numbers stack up, with the info i have, at this stage, will continue to watch.

if i were a holder, and just relying on public info, i would be taking a few off the table.

not held

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Bear77
Added 5 months ago

18th July 2025: Sigma Healthcare (SIG +0.5%) has been upgraded from underperform to hold by Jeffries. (source: MarcusToday newsletter).

I was posting that here for @Eand however I note that they are no longer Strawman Premium members, so if still active on the site, will only be able to read this in a month's time, by which time it will be old news. Anyway, if anyone else is interested in the company that bought Chemist Warehouse and has looked overpriced to many, their SP has recently come down from over $3.20 to under $2.80 and Jeffries have changed their call from underperform to hold, so that's a little bullish by at least one broker.

In other news, DroneShield (DRO -3.7%) has been downgraded from buy to hold by Bell Potter; Mesoblast (MSB +37.7%) has been upgraded from hold to buy by Jefferies, and Medibank Private (MPL -2.4%) has been downgraded from overweight to neutral by JPMorgan.


Disc: Not holding any of these.

[percentage movements were intraday at that time - for today up until that time - about 1pm, so not accurate as end of day or full day SP movements]

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