Forum Topics Stable coins the Visa killer?
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ok take 2, take one lost, :( brief intro- below are a couple of articles by Seeking Alpha authors, Eugenie Catone, who runs a family office in Europe and YR research analyst who does decent work; the highlights are mine.

My take V will attempt to run both legacy and stablecoin payment systems over its rails. The 3% fee mentioned is only 30bp to V, so V can be competitive. The rest of the fees go to the issuer and merchant capture banks to CC fund reward schemes.

6.5k words, so only for those interested in the topic, which is fascinating

VISA and stablecoins

Stablecoins, Don't Call Them A Visa Killer

Summary

  • Stablecoins pose a limited threat to Visa; regulatory, operational, and consumer protection hurdles make overnight disruption highly unlikely.
  • Visa’s global brand, trusted infrastructure, and consumer protections ensure continued dominance, even as stablecoins gain traction for niche use cases.
  • Visa is proactively integrating stablecoins, leveraging its network to offer stablecoin-linked cards and settlement, especially benefiting cross-border and emerging markets.
  • I remain highly bullish on Visa’s long-term prospects; stablecoins will enhance, not replace, its business, making Visa an even stronger investment.

 

 

Last week, the Wall Street Journal reported that Amazon and Walmart are planning to release their own stablecoin to bypass traditional payment methods offered mainly by Visa (V) and Mastercard (MA). Now more than ever, it seems that the dominance of these two giants is being challenged, especially after the Senate's approval of the Genius Act.

A few days later, doubts continue to grow, and several analysts are predicting catastrophic scenarios. After all, if alternative payment methods are created, Visa and Mastercard will no longer be necessary. Why would companies pay them billions of dollars in transaction fees if they can create their own payment system through stablecoins?

This is the main theme of the bearish arguments against Visa and Mastercard, but in my opinion, it is too superficial and takes for granted too many assumptions that clash with the current financial system. I believe that Visa and Mastercard currently have the best business model in the world, and I find it absurd to think that it could be called into question overnight. Do you really think that management has not considered the ‘threat’ of stablecoins in recent years?

In this article, I will show you all the reasons why I believe that stablecoins will not replace Visa, and logically the same applies to Mastercard. However, before moving on to a direct comparison, I think it is essential to thoroughly understand the enemy Visa is facing.

Stablecoins: Advantages And Disadvantages Compared To Traditional Methods

A stablecoin is a cryptocurrency whose value is pegged to a stable asset, in 99% of cases to the US dollar (1 Tether = $1). Ironically, stablecoins are supposed to limit the power of the Visa-Mastercard duopoly, but currently their supply (around 90%) is also dominated by just two companies: Tether and Circle.

Boston Consulting Group

In 2024, stablecoin transaction volumes reached a staggering $26.10 trillion, but 88% of this figure comes from trading on the cryptocurrency market: stablecoins are not yet widely used for everyday payments. Could they be in the future? It depends, as they have both advantages and disadvantages compared to traditional payment methods. Boston Consulting Group recently published a very interesting study on this topic, comparing the strengths and weaknesses of stablecoins with traditional payment methods. Here are the results I found most relevant.

Transaction Speed And Costs

The current payment system is very efficient for domestic payments, but more cumbersome when it comes to international transfers, despite significant improvements since the introduction of SWIFT GPI in 2017. Through this system, banks can transfer money internationally faster and with real-time payment tracking. However, it is not a perfect system, and this is where stablecoins have a clear advantage. Stablecoins operate directly on a 24/7 blockchain network and transactions take place almost instantly, regardless of where the payment originates. Revolutionary, right? Yes, but only up to a point.

As mentioned, domestic payments are already instantaneous, while international payments have improved greatly thanks to SWIFT GPI. So when is it useful to use stablecoin payments? They are particularly effective in the Global South, where infrastructure is rather outdated and the banking system is underdeveloped.

Encyclopedia Britannica

If you are a US citizen and want to transfer your money to France, there should be no particular restrictions using traditional transfer methods, but if you want to transfer it to Africa, the procedure could be much more complicated. In this case, stablecoins are very useful, as the transfer is immediate and, among other things, very cheap. International bank transfers can cost as much as $50 or even up to 13.65% of the amount sent. Using Tether seems like a faster and cheaper solution, but there is one hurdle to overcome: that money has to be converted twice. If you have a friend in Africa who needs $1,000 right away, the procedure to speed things up is as follows:

  • Convert your $1,000 into 1,000 Tether.
  • Send the money from your wallet to his wallet; thanks to blockchain technology, this happens immediately.
  • Your friend will have to convert the 1,000 Tether into $1,000 in order to use it.

There are no intermediaries in this process, but the mere fact of converting the money several times is in itself a cost, especially if you rely on crypto-enabled ATMs ( fees up to 7%).

Overall, the use of stablecoins in transactions appears to be advantageous, especially for money transfers to countries with underdeveloped banking systems. In the case of transactions within the same country, it does not seem necessary; on an international basis to developed countries, it can be helpful but is not a game-changer.

Traceability And Automation

Thanks to blockchain, stablecoins enjoy a high degree of traceability, but only up to a point. It is possible to see in real time where the transferred sum is located and the parties involved. This is very useful, as it resolves issues related to the outcome of transactions: with blockchain, you can immediately know whether the other party has received the sum you sent. With bank transfers, the process is not always so simple/immediate, but it is not just a matter of inefficiency. In the banking system, there are rules to follow when money is transferred from one financial institution to another, which is less common with stablecoins, or more generally with cryptocurrencies. There are not the same anti-money laundering and consumer protection rules. Keep this in mind, because it will be important when we talk about Visa.

If I send 5,000 Tether to a friend, I don't have to enter a reason or even their name. All I need is their wallet address associated with their account and that's it. If the amounts are higher, I may be asked for more information about my transfer, but it's still a ‘less controlled way to send money’. In terms of traceability, we can know exactly what transactions are taking place between different accounts, but we may not know who they are linked to. If transactions take place on a centralized exchange, your identity is known (even if it cannot be directly observed from your wallet address), but if they take place on decentralized exchanges it is much more complex: this is why cryptocurrencies are often associated with criminal activity.

Overall, the traceability of transactions within the blockchain is more efficient than that of the banking system, but it lacks the same reliability. There is not yet a comprehensive regulatory framework for this, but when there is (and there must be), stablecoins may lose some of their advantages. Providing more information and undergoing more checks are all factors that discourage money transfers and ‘transaction anonymity’.

As far as automation is concerned, stablecoins have an important advantage dictated by ‘smart contracts’, something that is not possible in the banking system. Through them, it is possible to automate payments upon the fulfillment of certain conditions thanks to the code within the smart contract. For example, the two parties can use a smart contract for immediate payment of $1,000 at the exact moment a specific item is delivered. To determine whether or not it has been delivered, the contract can rely on FedEx's real-time tracking. This prevents fraud and problems related to non-performance.

Through the banking system, it is not possible to create such a contract that is fully automated by code: there will always be a person behind it, and this means higher costs.

Why Stablecoins Probably Won't Replace Visa

Amazon and Walmart are considering issuing their own stablecoin to replace Visa, and riding the wave of the Genius Act, they are looking for a way to avoid paying billions of dollars a year in transaction fees. I've heard all sorts of things lately, and I think some people have a strange idea of what might happen. I have read that Amazon will guarantee checking deposits for its customers (without being a bank), that Walmart will create its own stablecoin to be used by all merchants, and that Visa and Mastercard will collapse by 50% within the next year. I think all of this is very unrealistic, and I will explain why.

Problems With The Economic/Monetary System

The Genius Act aims to regulate stablecoins, recognize them, and integrate them into the current financial system to further improve it. The limitation of cryptocurrencies is that they are unlikely to be used to pay for goods/services due to their volatility, but stablecoins are different because their value is still pegged to a stable asset, almost always the US dollar. If 1 Tether = $1 (from now on I will use Tether to give examples of stable coins), it can potentially also be useful as a payment method. But how does 1 Tether guarantee its value of $1? The Genius Act explains this, as it has issued the requirements that companies issuing stablecoins must follow.

For every Tether issued, there must be collateral on the balance sheet that can guarantee the convertibility of that Tether into dollars. The collateral must be secure and easily convertible, such as a T-Bill or an insured deposit with a bank. Otherwise, the asset underlying the Tether risks losing value, triggering a potential ‘run on the stablecoin’ in the event of a loss of confidence by the public.

Given these conditions, here is how Amazon could act if it decided to issue its own stablecoin. First, it must have the underlying asset, let's assume $100 billion invested in T-Bills that currently yield > 4%, and then it could issue 100 billion Amazon stablecoins, each worth $1. The advantage for Amazon in this case is twofold:

  • It would avoid paying annoying fees to Visa for every purchase.
  • It would earn 4% from the return on T-Bills.

Since cashback on Visa credit cards tends to be around 1.50%-2%, Amazon could incentivize consumers to convert their dollars into Amazon stablecoins by offering them 3-4% discounts on their purchases. This way, everyone wins except Visa. It could even incentivize the holding of Amazon stablecoins by guaranteeing an annual return on holdings, as if it were a savings account.

This is all well and good, except that it underestimates all the problems that could arise. The first and most important is that the idea of Amazon as a bank where you can deposit money to get discounts on purchases is too simplistic. Amazon is not a bank; it is a company that sells products/services unrelated to traditional banking.

Before it can get to the point of taking deposits and paying interest on them, it must obtain licenses that it does not currently have. By the way, Walmart has been trying to obtain a banking license for decades but has never succeeded. The reason is that the regulations are extremely strict; you can't just become a bank overnight, especially if you do something completely different. But now there are stablecoins, right? Can companies issue their own currency and effectively receive deposits? Not exactly.

Although I haven't found much discussion on the subject at the moment, I'm fairly confident that stablecoin deposits will be subject to stricter regulations in the future. The reason is pretty intuitive: if it makes sense for consumers to deposit their money with Amazon rather than traditional banks (Visa partners), the latter will inevitably have less capital available for their operations, inhibiting their ability to lend money. Then try asking Amazon if they'll give you a mortgage. But that's not even the most serious consequence.

If banks lose their importance, the economy will lack the fundamental building block for the transmission of monetary policy. Banks play a key role, and if they lose their influence, the Fed will lose its power too. No matter how much it cuts rates, banks will generally have less money to lend because depositors have moved their capital elsewhere. (Personally, I don’t find this argument convincing, but threats to the stability of the system would certainly draw attention. As market size grows, so will regulatory pressure).

In my opinion, there are many flaws in the theory that Amazon and Walmart are capable of supporting their own payment system using stablecoins. Another could simply be the variation in T-Bill yields. Today, we are in a high-interest-rate environment, and we may have forgotten that until a few years ago, bonds yielded almost 0%. In the event of a recession, T-Bill yields will plummet, and Amazon (like other companies) will have to dig into its pockets to keep offering 3-4% discounts; interest income would dry up and, as a result, so would the discounts. At that point, wouldn't it be better to get 2% cashback from Visa? And wouldn't it be better for the company to simply entrust this laborious process to Visa?

Finally, I would not take it for granted that all companies behave in an extremely transparent and correct manner. The Genius Act does not provide for capital ratios to be met by stablecoin issuers, unlike banks, because they are not expected to lend to other entities. The underlying assets of stablecoins (T-bills, cash, insured bank deposits) are held in external reserves from which the company cannot draw to finance its projects; their sole purpose is to guarantee convertibility. This is the rule, but we know that we can never trust any company 100%, and unfortunately, over the years some of them have acted in bad faith (some have done so, and we don't even know about it). This is not the case with Amazon, as it is an extremely well-organized company, but the stablecoin of a less reliable company may not necessarily be ‘truly stable’. What if the company does not comply with the deposit segregation rule? What if it has overestimated its reserves or, worse still, is lying about them? Banks today are unlikely to make mistakes, as controls/requirements have become very stringent under Basel III, but with stablecoins the situation is not the same.

Regardless of bad faith, it is not easy for a company to manage a huge amount of reserves for the issuance of stablecoins: managing deposits is something new for them. Banks have mastered this skill over decades, but to do so they have invested money and time, as it is fundamental to their core business. Amazon sells products online (not only this, of course), and although I believe it is one of the best companies in the world, it is not a given that it will be able to manage this situation in the best possible way, let alone smaller companies. While companies save on Visa fees, they may spend more on the infrastructure and staff to coordinate each transaction. Visa has an extremely scalable and cutting-edge infrastructure because it has been doing this for decades, but for a company that has never invested in its own payment system, the road ahead is uphill.

Furthermore, if companies mess up with their reserves backing stablecoins, your deposits could be worth much less than you think. This is very serious because, unlike banks, there will be no FDIC to bail you out. All this for just 1-2% more return on your spending/deposited capital, assuming rates remain high.

The Global Importance Of The Visa Brand

The aspect that surprised me most about this whole story is that some analysts declared Visa's demise overnight, as if what it does could be immediately replaced. This is not the case at all, otherwise this company would not be growing at double digits every year with one of the best profit margins in the world. The value it brings to the society is enormous: through it, you can pay with your card in seconds, anywhere in the world, and securely. To achieve this, Visa has built a network of millions of people who accept its payment system and have been doing so for generations. Visa's biggest advantage is that its service is flawless, and most people don't feel the need to switch to something new.

Assuming that stablecoins are the biggest revolution in digital payments, are we really sure that people will accept this new technology regardless? Some people don't even trust credit cards, let alone cryptocurrencies. Sure, it's based on liquid collateral, but it's still less reliable than currency issued by a central bank. Younger people may be more open to this alternative, but I doubt that those who have been using Visa for decades will want to change everything to get 1-2% discounts at best.

Another thing that makes me think is the chaos that would arise if many companies created their own stablecoins. Amazon stablecoins would not be valid for payments at Walmart, just as Walmart stablecoins would not be valid for payments at Target. We have always had a single effective solution for everything, and it is difficult to change such a deeply rooted habit.

Visa has become the company it is today because, over the decades, it has proven itself to be reliable, both for merchants and, above all, for consumers. In the US, many Visa cards have a ‘Zero Liability’ policy, meaning that you are not responsible for payments that you have not personally authorized. If your card is cloned, you are scammed, or anything else happens that harms your consumer rights, Visa is there to help you get back what you are owed by working with your card-issuing bank. Guess what happens with a stablecoin? Any payment is irreversible.

The seller clearly has the advantage, but at the end of the day, the universally accepted payment method is decided by the consumer, because if they don't feel protected, they simply won't buy.

If Amazon issued its own stablecoin, this situation would not change because it is inherent in the stablecoin system; it does not depend on the company. If someone steals your Amazon wallet credentials, the fraudster can buy whatever they want, and not only will you not receive any compensation, but you may not even know who did it. From this point of view, stablecoins have a clear disadvantage over Visa, even if they were issued by the best companies in the world. What if Amazon managed to develop a payment system as secure as Visa's? I don't think that's possible, simply because I believe it has more interest in developing its own business (e-commerce, cloud) than investing tens of billions and time to compete with one of the best companies in the world. It's much more convenient to pay the fees and focus on what is its competitive advantage.

Would you buy something without any protection? Merchants would probably welcome this situation, not only because they receive the money immediately and regardless of the circumstances, but also because they would pay lower fees. Visa's interchange fees can cost merchants up to 3% of the transaction value, which is significantly higher than the 1% charged by stablecoins.

But that 2% difference covers numerous services that protect consumers, which they are unlikely to do without, not least because they do not bear the costs. Furthermore, while it is true that merchants would pay lower fees by accepting stablecoins, it is not certain that the overall result would be favorable once the stablecoins are converted into USD: conversion fees should not be underestimated.

And returning to the previous question, are we sure that merchants want to hold their funds in stablecoins? They would have to blindly trust the company that issues them, as there is no FDIC to guarantee deposits.

Overall, in light of these considerations, I don't see why stablecoins should be able to dismantle Visa's business in a short period of time. Consumers will always prefer the payment method that gives them the most protection, and it is not a given that merchants will want to accept stablecoins: their value depends on how well a company manages its reserves, and the conversion cost can be high. Personally, I see no reason for widespread use of stablecoins in developed countries in the short term; it's a different story if you live in a country with a weak currency. In a context of double/triple-digit inflation, it makes sense to accept payment/hold in Tether to preserve your purchasing power.

Are We Sure Stablecoins Are A Threat To Visa?

So far, I have analyzed the relationship between Visa and stablecoins as if they were two rivals, in order to help you understand why consumers will likely continue to prefer Visa regardless. However, it is now time to make an important point: Visa has never felt threatened by stablecoins; on the contrary, it sees them as an opportunity.

I cannot understand how people can really believe that a company like Visa would be caught unprepared on something we have all known about for years. In fact, Visa itself publishes stablecoin transaction volumes on its website, a sign that it is closely monitoring the situation.

Visa website

Management knows that stablecoins have long-term potential, which is why it is seeking to integrate them into its business rather than avoid them. It knows that transactions are faster (especially cross-border) and potentially less expensive. But at the same time, it knows that they lack consumer protections and can be inconvenient if fees must be paid to convert everything back into dollars. Blockchain is an innovative way to exchange money, but it needs Visa's infrastructure and network to be truly appreciated by consumers on a daily basis.

Visa is excited and uniquely positioned to be a leader in this space. Our scale — settling payments across a network of more than 150 million Visa-accepting merchant locations and more than 14,500 financial institutions — combined with our ability to orchestrate transactions in both fiat and stablecoins, enables us to remove market roadblocks and realize the potential of stablecoins and blockchain technology. We operate as a trusted bridge, helping connect both platforms and new technologies, including stablecoin-native players, with our global network to provide fair and open access to banking services.

In the not-too-distant future, it will not be uncommon to have Visa cards with a balance in stablecoins and a balance in dollars.

For over half a decade, Visa has been facilitating crypto transactions and is now further expanding the applications for stablecoins with stablecoin-linked cards, settlement and programmable money. Bridge, a Stripe company, is working with Visa on a new card product that enables fintech developers to offer stablecoin-linked Visa cards to their end customers in multiple countries through a single API integration.

This will make a difference because consumers will be able to rely on the Visa ecosystem to pay in stablecoins and be protected. When you go to a store or online and want to pay with a stablecoin, Visa will automatically convert it into dollars, and the transaction will then pass through its specialized network to prevent fraudulent use. If a fraudster misuses your card, you will still be protected because the transaction ultimately takes place in dollars and not in Tether.

Nothing changes for the merchant because they receive dollars, but the buyer has made their purchase with Tether instantly converted into dollars (potentially transferred at low cost on the same day from the other side of the world). The advantage of having a stablecoin-linked Visa card is not at the moment of payment, but in the holding and rapid cross-border transfer of stablecoins.

This way, everyone wins, especially emerging economies with underdeveloped banking systems: this is where Visa's big opportunity lies. We know that society is moving towards a cashless future, but without the infrastructure in developing countries, the road ahead is uphill. Visa, through stablecoins, could accelerate this process.

Finally, I would like to mention one last but not least important point. Due to the nature of their business, banks (rather than Amazon or Walmart) seem to be the ideal candidates to integrate stablecoin services. They have experience in managing deposits, must comply with stringent capital requirements, and their role as ‘monetary policy intermediaries’ would not be affected. In fact, some of them are already exploring this possibility, but it has not received the same media coverage. Well, Visa could be at the forefront of this process thanks to its Visa Tokenized Asset Platform (VTAP).

In practice, through this platform, banks would be able to manage and create their own stablecoins: the VTAP acts as an intermediary between the blockchain and the banks themselves. These processes are very complex, and a company like Visa has all the prerequisites to become the benchmark for this revolution in the banking sector.

Visa website

The giant BBVA is the first bank to test these features, which could become an integral part of their business as early as this year:

We are proud to continue spearheading the exploration of tokenized solutions with Visa through its VTAP platform. This collaboration marks a significant milestone in our exploration of the potential of blockchain technology and will ultimately help enable us to broaden our banking services and expand the market with new financial solutions.

Francisco Maroto, Head of Blockchain and Digital Assets at BBVA.

As Steve Jobs would say, it is impossible to connect the dots looking forward (especially for such a complex topic); we can only sow seeds in the present with the aim of reaping rewards in the future. I have no doubt that Visa is sowing seeds, and I think it is much more likely that it will also manage stablecoin payments in the future than the opposite.

Visa website

Regardless of how many stablecoins there will be, I believe that Visa will always be at the core of the payment system. Individual companies cannot manage all of this on their own, simply because it is not their core business.

Conclusion

If I had the opportunity to invest in just one company, I would probably choose Visa. It is currently one of my largest holdings in my portfolio, and if the market continues to view stablecoins as a threat, I would not think twice about increasing my investment.

 

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Visa has everything I look for in a company: growing revenues, high profit margins (among the best in the world), and exceptional return on capital invested. I don't see stablecoins as a threat; on the contrary, they are a way to spread Visa's services to less developed countries. Stablecoins will be part of its ecosystem, and I don't believe consumers will ever do without its protections to avoid being scammed.

Visa is in the midst of its growth phase, as the world is far from being completely cashless. There are still many countries lagging behind in this regard, including my own, Italy. Its user base is set to grow over time, as are transaction fees, making it an exceptional business regardless of stablecoins. The latter will be the icing on the cake.



Visa: Too Long Since The Last Misinformed Panic, Enter 'Stablecoin'

Summary

  • Stablecoin regulation and headlines have sparked fears about Visa's future, but concerns are overblown given Visa's adaptability and expansive competitive moat. It'll be long before stablecoins replicate that, if ever.
  • Visa's competitive moat is its unmatched consumer trust which drives conversions, robust payment ecosystem, and unparalleled capabilities that are critical for global commerce.
  • Even if stablecoins gain traction, Visa is already positioned to participate and benefit through existing partnerships and stablecoin-related services.
  • Visa's fundamentals remain strong; I see the recent dip as a buying opportunity and reiterate my 'buy' rating on Visa shares.

 

 

It's been too long since the last time markets panicked over a possible disintermediation threat to payment networks, right?

The tension has been building up for a while, and the 'Stablecoin Threat' has now started to take its toll on Visa (V) and Mastercard (MA) valuations.

What is a stablecoin, what's in the 'Genius Act', and should Visa investors be worried?

Let's dive in.

Stablecoin 101

One of the core original visions for the blockchain technology, and specifically bitcoin, was that it will enable a world of commerce based on a decentralized currency, meaning that there won't be a central authority like a bank or government that controls it.

Over time, it became clear that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are perceived by many people as store-of-value assets, resembling gold. However, unlike gold, cryptocurrencies are not backed by a physical asset. In addition, for reasons that are beyond the scope of this article, cryptocurrencies turned out to be extremely volatile, making them unreliable for day to day commerce.

 

Enter stablecoin. The idea behind this type of cryptocurrency is quite simple. Every stablecoin is backed by an asset, the most popular one being the US Dollar, making it a stable representative of value.

The two largest stablecoin tokens by market cap are Tether, issued by iFinex, with a $156 billion market cap, and USDC, issued by Circle (CRCL) and Coinbase (COIN) in a joint venture, with a $61 billion market cap.

The amount in circulation grew rapidly since their inception. In the case of USDC, it nearly doubled over the past year, and rose 200x since 2019. That said, it remains miniscule compared to the US Dollar, which is in the trillions, no matter which measure you choose.

The Genius Act & Stablecoin Mania

What's all this noise about stablecoin all of a sudden? Well, I think it's the result of several developments over the past year. The most critical of which is the Genius Act.

The act, which seeks to create a regulatory framework for stablecoins, was passed in the Senate yesterday. The primary acts of the bill include a formal definition of payment stablecoins, establishing an issuance licensing procedure, mandating a 1:1 reserve, and implementing transparency and auditing requirements.

A clear regulatory framework is something the industry has been clamoring for a while, and even before the passing of the bill in the Senate, business activity in the industry accelerated.

In February of this year, Stripe, one of the largest private companies based on valuation and one of the largest fintech companies in the world, closed a deal to acquire Bridge. The acquisition was priced at $1.1 billion, for a company that's focused solely on stablecoin payments.

 

Two weeks ago, Circle Internet Group, which has a stablecoin business, completed an IPO valuing the company at a ~$7 billion market cap. With the passing of the bill and the surging interest in stablecoins, the stock is up nearly 7x from the IPO price and almost 2.5x from the actual initial public trading price.

Meanwhile, Coinbase, which is a partner in the USDC joint venture, owns an equity stake in Circle, and has a revenue sharing agreement with the company, has also seen its shares rise nearly 21% over the past month.

Lastly, and perhaps the most important part from Visa's perspective, is that two of the largest retailers in the world, Amazon (AMZN) and Walmart (WMT), are reportedly looking to issue their own stablecoins. In addition, Shopify (SHOP), which is responsible for huge payment volumes itself, announced a partnership with Stripe and Coinbase to accept USDC payments.

Visa Faced Many 'Life-Ending Threats' Over The Years, This Time It's Different?

From digital wallets and open banking, to buy-now-pay-later, retailer consortiums, local payment schemes, or crypto, the list of threats that were supposed to bring the end of Visa and Mastercard's domination is quite long.

Stablecoin could be the biggest threat yet, with a total transfer volume higher than $27 trillion in 2024. I've seen some people comparing and contrasting these figures to the payment volumes reported by the payment networks, but that's not a relevant comparison, as the majority of that volume is just for buying and selling crypto.

Now, just like the other threats in the list above, the biggest misconception is Visa's opportunities in the new line of business. Digital wallets and tap-to-pay turned out to be one of the single-most important growth drivers for the legacy payment networks. Open banking is one of the fast-growing segments under Visa's Value-Added Services, BNPL players are key partners, and local payment schemes are big customers.

In stablecoin, Visa already has a decently-sized business, and major partnerships with Stripe, Bridge, and Crypto.com. It also settled over $225 million in commerce payments, and expects to cross $1 billion over the next 12 months. Further, it has a treasury business and stablecoin-linked Visa cards.

The Role Of Payments, And Visa's Real Moat

More often than not, companies that are demonized for their dominant position in their respective markets have attained and kept their position by simply offering the best solution.

Apple (AAPL) is constantly criticized for its App Store practices, but it turns out most users want to install and make purchases through Apple rails rather than third-party options.

Google (GOOG) (GOOGL) is constantly scrutinized for monopoly practices in the search and ads space, but for many years Google held over a 90% share because users preferred its product over all the alternatives, and it increasingly seems like the websites that demonized Google for unfairness have needed Google much more than it needed them.

There are many more examples, and in my view, it's a key lesson for Visa and Mastercard bears. The reality is consumers have almost zero complaints over the way payments are done today.

Network-based fraud is minimal. The capabilities are almost endless, from returns and cancellations to multi-stage transactions and real-time FX. The ecosystem is extremely evolved, with millions of participants, reward systems, and discounts.

So, the real question is, what's stablecoin right to win? And the answer is that consumers aren't really the ones asking for change, it's the retailers, who seem to believe they can find a cheaper way to facilitate payments (and remember, the majority of their costs are actually because of fees that go to banks and issuers, not the payment networks).

Now, for stablecoins to be beneficial to retailers, they need to meet several hurdles. One, their overall costs, comprising fees and adoption incentives, need to be lower than those of legacy networks. Two, and that's the most critical one, they need to at least be on par when it comes to conversion.

It seems very long ago, but paying with a credit card used to be something many people were scared to do. That was a common phenomenon not only on the internet, but also physically. Today, it's almost a no-brainer for most people, but payment ethos remains a major factor in converting a sale.

In fact, one of Shopify's biggest value propositions with Shop Pay is that it drives conversion because of its trustworthiness and familiarity.

To sum up, the way I see it is that stablecoins don't have a right-to-win with most consumers. Retailers and companies like Bridge will have to carry the load of driving its adoption over legacy payment methods, and it will be very hard to do so at a net positive value due to costs and conversion rates.

And, even if stablecoins do become a major way of conducting commerce, Visa is already right there to take part.

Visa - Valuation & Outlook

Visa laid out its growth framework for the next few years in its February 2025 investor day, with revenue growth of 9%-12%, and EPS growth faster than revenues, driven by margin expansion and buybacks.

Consumer payments are expected to grow at a 5%-7% rate, while value-added services and commercial & money movement solutions (previously new flows) are expected to grow in the range of 16%-18%.

 

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Right now, consensus is at ~10% revenue growth and ~13% EPS growth for the foreseeable future, which I find to be on point.

Stablecoins, whether they are a huge thing or a complete failure, will have very little to do with Visa's ability to deliver on these expectations. That said, they could have a meaningful effect on the multiple that the market would be willing to pay for Visa, at least as long as the mania lasts.

Data by YCharts

At $340 a share, Visa, with its fortress balance sheets, unparalleled profitability, and double-digit growth prospects, is trading at ~26 times 2026 earnings, reflecting about a 2x PEG.

Historically, Visa trades above 30 times forward earnings, and I expect that if it weren't for the stablecoin risk, it would have traded somewhere in that range, reflecting a $400 price target by the end of 2025.

Conclusion

I view stablecoins as another threat that doesn't justify the near-term panic reflected in Visa shares, which have shed about $50 billion in value due to stablecoin worries.

Visa's dominant position in the value chain isn't a fluke, and it's not only because of simple first-movers advantage. It is the result of years of innovation, meeting all the needs of its stakeholders, and an unparalleled value proposition across costs and conversion rates.

Even if stablecoins become huge, I expect Visa will be a leader in the space, especially in everything related to commerce.

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Bear77
Added 7 months ago

Great read @Solvetheriddle - thanks heaps for sharing. Very interesting. Did you see this?

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thunderhead
Added 7 months ago

I've been wondering about these developments too, especially due to owning fairly large positions in both $MA (held for many years) and $V (still accumulating more recently, started a little over a year ago).

Thank you for sharing @Solvetheriddle!

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Strawman
Added 7 months ago

Yeah Thanks for sharing @Solvetheriddle. Some great points raised there.

Just to add a few perspectives I think are worth considering:

Instant settlement is a big deal. Merchants get paid faster and avoid chargebacks, which makes stablecoins very attractive from their point of view.

The open, interoperable nature of stablecoins also allows for innovation that’s just not possible in Visa’s closed ecosystem — think programmable payments, smart contracts, and global reach without reliance on traditional banks.

They also provide a path to financial inclusion for the unbanked, particularly in emerging markets.

And while I agree stablecoins won’t “kill” Visa, they’ll likely compress margins over time, especially in high-fee areas like cross-border and B2B payments.

Add to that the potential disintermediation of issuers and acquirers, and you start to see real structural change in how value is captured across the payments stack.

So yeah, I think the short-term risk is probably overstated — but the longer-term disruption is definitely something to keep an eye on.

On a separate note, I’d gently push back on some of the comments around BTC (to absolutely no one's surprise).

Sure, it’s seen as too volatile for everyday spending right now. But many (myself included) are using it more as a long-term savings vehicle. And plenty of wallets now support both Bitcoin and stablecoins — I personally use Strike and Aqua — and they offer slicker UX and more functionality than any Visa card.

We're unlikely to see a wholesale shift overnight, but existing POS networks like Square already give customers and merchants the choice: pay however you like. For example, I pay in BTC, the merchant receives USD — or vice versa. Dealer’s choice.

Now that the banks are on board and the big retailers are circling, I think Visa's moat will gradually weaken. Not an existential threat, but it’ll be harder to sustain those incredible net margins (around 50% in FY24!).

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Solvetheriddle
Added 7 months ago

@Bear77 thanks interesting, I have a slightly different perspective, and it probably goes across the whole crypto regime. Once you get to a certain size and potentially threaten the stability of the financial system, you get regulated and in finance, that means holding capital against the transactional or lending exposure. im sure that will come, so they will hold more gold if successful. Although regulators lag behind commerce. Saying its a great biz model, imagine how profitable the banks would be without holding tens of billions in capital. That's what wrecked their ROEs. Don't want to go down that rabbit hole, its a big one, but who is going to buy any currency without government backing, who can tax their constituents, so these guys will ultimately need to hold hard assets. Thats my take could be wrong, a potential ongoing source of gold demand, the reinactment of the gold standard by stealth, ironic. lol

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Solvetheriddle
Added 7 months ago

@Strawman , the customer will ultimately decide. I suspect there are arguments on both sides. Remember the fees V get are minuscule, about 30bp. Genuine commercial volumes in SC are very small now, and we will see where those volumes end up. certainly bank margins here will compress or disappear, but since they are tied to CC rewards programs it again depends on the customer.

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