Forum Topics Superfund Tax Changes
PortfolioPlus
Added 2 months ago

Agree...commonsense at last. But Labor will return to this honeypot in the future when things get fiscally sticky.

I'm tipping they will relate future attacks on Super, negative gearing & CGT as directly funding future defense commitments a la the Medibank levy.


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BigStrawbs70
Added 2 months ago

I agree that the proposed changes, particularly the introduction of indexing, are a significant improvement. The absence of indexing was always my primary concern, as for individuals with balances over $3M, the increased tax was relatively modest in the broader context but the notion of taxing unrealised gains was also a dangerous predicant. These adjustments makes the policy far more reasonable and future proof. 

That said, I still believe a simpler and more transparent solution would have been to establish a definitive cap on superannuation balances. For instance, setting a maximum allowable amount, the exact figure of which could be debated, and taxing any excess at the highest marginal rate would provide greater clarity. A transition period, perhaps three years, could be provided to allow individuals to adjust their financial strategies accordingly. While there would be logistical details to address, an approach based on a definitive cap would be fundamentally simpler than introducing multiple tax tiers. The current proposal, though fairer with indexing, still provides a disproportionate tax benefit to those with the largest balances compared to those without.

Side note: An even simpler and perhaps more equitable alternative would be to tax all withdrawals from superannuation at the same marginal tax rates as other forms of income, while preserving the tax benefits during the accumulation phase. This would address the fundamental inequity, as raised by Scott Phillips and Andrew on the Motely Fool Pod Machine, where the current system allows a retiree to withdraw a significant tax free or low tax income, while a younger person earning half that amount pays a much higher rate of tax on their income.

Anyhow back on topic: Ultimately, the revised proposal is a step in the right direction and a much better outcome. It seems that achieving a directionally correct, rather than equitable system, is the most we can realistically hope for from our politicians. 

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Rick
Added 2 months ago

Treasurer Jim Chalmers has just announced significant changes to the proposed Superannuation tax laws. The new proposed changes are a relief as the intention to tax unrealised gains has now been scrapped. I think the new proposed changes look fair and sensible:

  • The total concessional tax rate applied to earnings on balances between $3 million and $10 million will be 30 per cent, up from 15 per cent.
  •   The total concessional tax rate applied to earnings on balances over $10 million will be 40 per cent, up from 15 per cent.
  • Both the $3 million and $10 million super balance thresholds will be indexed to maintain relativity with the Transfer Balance Cap that was introduced by the Coalition.
  •  Adjust the earnings calculation so the concessional tax rates on large balances only apply to future realised earnings. 
  • Apply commensurate treatment to defined benefit interests to ensure equivalent impacts, with Treasury to consult on implementation details.
  • Extend the existing exemption for some judges to improve consistency across jurisdictions. This is a small change to respond to the latest legal advice and ensure more neutral treatment.


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Clio
Added 2 months ago

Amazing! Commonsense prevailed! This is much more reasonable, and I particularly commend the last two points (on defined benefits and judges' exemption), which increase the fairness factor considerably.

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lastever
Added 2 months ago

This looks like an excellent correction to the proposed super policy @Rick.

What struck me about this ordeal was how badly a bunch of lawyer/politicians and their advisors seem to be at mathing. Which would partially explain why they are terrible at running an economy.

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