Forum Topics The 7 Stages of how every reserve currency collapses.
Lewis
Added 2 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYJri1eNRyc&t=949s

This will be old news for some (gold bugs and bit coiners no doubt), but above is a half hour video that nicely lays out the thesis that there are 7 stages to every reserve currency, and we're currently in stage 5 and heading for stage 6. It neatly explains why present day gold, shares, property and bitcoin are all on the rise together (stage 6 loss of confidence and search for alternatives). It also gives some hints as to what the future may hold over the next few decades. Spoiler alert, no one looks ready to take over as reserve currency, the global economy likely bifurcates into USD in the americas, Euro in Europe and the Chinese Yuan in Asia, with gold spanning the gaps (or digital gold I guess). Alternate stores of wealth and productive assets are a better place to be than reserve currency cash or bonds (preaching to the choir I suspect).


The 7 Stages of Reserve Currencys:

Stage 1 Military dominance and trade route control,

Stage 2 Massive trade surplus,

Stage 3 Reserve status formalised,

Stage 4 Deficit spending and living beyond means

Stage 5 Currency debasement and money printing

(we are apparently here)

Stage 6 Loss of confidence and search of alternatives

Stage 7 replacement and collapse.


The timeline covered:

Portuguese Real - 80 years (1450-1530)

Dutch Guilder - 80 years (1640-1720)

British Pound - 105 years (1815-1920)

US Dollar - 81 years (1944-2025.

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Clio
Added 2 months ago

Thanks for that @Lewis - excellent find, a great presentation. Very clear. That said, although the title says Stage 5, in the video itself, he makes it fairly clear that the USD is already in (the early stages of) Stage 6 - Loss of Confidence and the Search for Alternatives. Given recent global money flows and recent contracts (e.g. BHP's latest with China being partly in Yuan), Stage 6 seems pretty clearly to be unfolding.

The one question the presentation left me with was: Does the Australian RBA hold any USD reserves? Anyone know?

And if so, why???

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BigStrawbs70
Added 2 months ago

That is a great article @Lewis and I agree with your thoughts @Clio - it could certainly be argued we are at about 6.1 or so.

While there is a growing trend in some countries away from the USD (which is one of the reasons gold is doing so well lately, given the Chinese plans to establish a gold-backed system or back their currency via gold), and as you touch on, some trade is starting to be done directly in Yuan, the USD is still extensively used. It will be a period of time yet before that changes, but directionally the clock has ticked past 6 for sure.

Australia, and most other countries, certainly does hold USD in terms of cash and bonds. Why? Well, while there is some trend away from the USD, it still comprises the vast majority of global trade, so holding it just makes sense... until it does not! The day will come when it all crashes down, but for now, the USD is still the big bad boy in the schoolyard.

The total amount held by the Australian government looks a bit like the below. Note: This is from Gemini and I have not checked the quantum on the source pages it listed, so take this as a guide only.

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Clio
Added 2 months ago

Thanks, @BigStrawbs70 - and lo and behold, the RBA publishes a Balance Sheet online.

https://www.rba.gov.au/statistics/balance-sheet/

That's as of 12/11/25. The total value of assets is shown as ~ 400 billion, presumably AUD.

The tab under Official Reserve Assets (left side bar) leads to this: https://www.rba.gov.au/statistics/frequency/reserve-assets.html

Which separates the foreign assets from Gold but doesn't break it down by country. Total Official Reserve Assets (as of end October) was 107 billion.

Assuming Gemini's figures are correct, then the RBA Official Reserve Assets are ~ 33% US at the moment.


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Chagsy
Added 2 months ago

I’m pretty sure someone else posted about the following before, and many years ago, I mentioned Lyn Alden as an interesting thinker on this subject.

Am I imaging it or did someone recently read “Broken Money” ? Her book on the subject.

One really needs to zoom out and take a historical perspective when thinking on this subject. I find it fascinating but it’s easy to become chicken little and make some bad decisions as a result. Or just embrace cognitive dissonance as it’s all too hard. Timing and portfolio positioning are everything I suppose, but getting that right for all scenarios is really, really tricky.

I am off to the pub and hence choosing cognitive dissonance as my preferred strategy

have a great weekend!

c


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Lewis
Added 2 months ago

@Chagsy, I don't think there are many new ideas in economics, I'm sure it gets talked about constantly. I'm with you on the timing, you could make a move today and wait a few lifetimes for it to play out.

I like your short term strategy too, sounds like a plan.

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Strawman
Added 2 months ago

Great find @Lewis. Right up my alley.

Re the RBA balance sheet @Clio, the fact it is in negative equity to the tune of $20b is hilarious. Of course, it's not a problem. But the reason it's not a problem is what I find amusing :)

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SayWhatAgain
Added 2 months ago

Thanks @Lewis, good find! I asked my PA to look for some numbers ;-)

RBA reserves (Oct): A$107B total. FX: A$63B (59%), gold A$14B, SDRs A$20B, IMF A$3.6B, other A$5.3B.

Balance sheet (12 Nov): Gold+FX A$111B—includes repos/swaps excluded from official count.

US: ~USD245B total. FX only USD39B (16%), rest SDRs+IMF (USD~200B). US holds almost no own USD in reserves; RBA’s FX likely ~60% USD = ~A$38B.

Negative equity A$4.2B on BS—no issue for a central bank…the’ll just leave the printer on…

Stage 5 confirmed!

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