I look at this issue a different way. not boring or exciting, but predictable or unpredictable. i am heavily skewed towards predictability. is that boring or not? i don't care, it doesn't bother me. i have to have a certain degree of certainty over my assumptions. some may point out that i am afraid of volatility, that is true if you mean business volatility, if i have little idea what's going on or likely to, then yes, i don't prefer it, in terms of SP volatility, if blended with business stability, then bring it on, that's an opportunity. That's my wheelhouse, or what i think it is. Predictability and volatility are different, imo. of course, they may correlate.
of course, we all have different ideas of what is certain. it appears I have a higher bar than others on this criterion, but that's my style, I can have conviction in.
Some good comments - thank you
@Chagsy I take your point re Amcor's debt. Yes it is a risk. However the cheap share price IMO compensates for that. The recent merger is also a risk. But I can see how, in an industry like packaging, being the biggest could generate synergies, lower costs and pricing power. Somewhat like what Ansell has done with gloves - another boring company that has done quite well over the long term. If Amcor can meet or get close to meeting guidance, they can afford the dividend plus some debt reduction. Some non-core asset sales are also likely and would certainly help. I believe that the odds are in our favour at the current share price.
@Lewis Solpatts is another boring company that has done very well for a long time. Great management too. It's just not very cheap at the moment. But I reckon having 40% in Berkshire, Solpatts and ETFs is probably going to go allright for you over the long term.
This discussion has been useful in terms of crystallising my own thoughts. I think what I have realised is that, even if you are mainly a small cap investor, it is worth keeping an eye on some "boring" large caps. Every so often, certain companies and/or sectors get out of favour with the market. If you look carefully and make sure that the fundamentals are still ok, I'm convinced that there are some great opportunities. OK, they're not going to 10-bag, but you can still do very well out of stacking up smaller "wins" at lower risk.
@Goldfish , I've got a decent position in NHC and am accumulating a speccy position in CSL. My only comment is don't disregard banks (I have done and continue to do well out of them) and take another look at WDS too. I really think it is undervalued, and is going to do well in the medium to long term.
Having a week off atm. Some valuable time to sit and think, for a change.
One thing I've been contemplating is where the value is in the current market. I see 2 main areas.
The first is small caps, There is definitely IMO greater inefficiency in smaller, less scrutinised stocks. This forum is great for uncovering misunderstood, undervalued gems that the market has yet to recognise. Examples would include: AIM, RTH, AVR, CAT. But that stuff is all well covered on here already, and so not what I want to talk about today.
What I thought might be worthwhile is to talk about the second main area that I can see value. Boring stocks. What I'm referring to is unexciting, large cap, value stocks. Not banks (which are crazily priced, for reasons I don't fully underatand) and not anything to do with AI (too overhyped). My top 4 examples are:
I own significant amounts of the above 4 stocks. Some others that I am watching, but haven't quite pulled the trigger on include:
WOW. Yes it's a bit beaten down and cheaper than it has been. But not quite cheap enough for me yet
EVT. Unusual conglomerate with a market cap less than the value of its property portfolio. Again, I might get tempted if it gets a bit cheaper
So my portfolio atm is a somewhat unusual mix of Strawman-style small caps and boring, unappreciated large caps as listed above.
Any comments, suggestions or criticisms would be very welcome.