To be clear, I would even be happy with just the ability to watch it/put a marker pin on it, be a part of the conversation without the ability to add it to my strawman portfolio. Just so we don’t steer away from ASX.

My view: I would value the Strawman community most if it remained focused on ASX-listed equities and ETFs. That’s why I joined. The benefit to me would be diminished if the feed became cluttered with posts on other asset classes.

@Timocracy you can create a Bitcoin Forum feed on strawman already. In fact there might be one already.

Not sure the value of a Bitcoin tracker, strawman doesnt track the value of any other assets or commodities that arent traded on the ASX.

@mikebrisy, my view too, well said.

@mikebrisy @Vandelay those are fair comments and I concur to a large degree. I'm not looking to turn Strawman into my personal investment hub for anything and everything which is why I also suggested it could be a terrible idea and warrants opening the floodgates to other asset classes which would definitely dilute the platform.

I also appreciate the ASX specificity of the platform. While a lot of users will have alternate investments, international shares, commodities, bonds and whatever else - there are ETF's or other similar trackers that are available already on the ASX which mimic that (trend) all quite well. @Strawman pointed out recently that not even the CRYP ETF has much to do with that market and as far as I'm aware, there is no such mirror accessible on the ASX to serve as a flag post for BTC in particular.

Let me stress that I do not currently, nor have I ever held any form of crypto 'asset'. The water still seems quite murky and I'm not sure I'm ready to toe in just yet but I know others feel strongly. My primary argument would be that if Bitcoin is the "one crypto to rule them all" and it ties a lot into general market sentiment it would be great to have a chart accessible alongside other investment notes.

The catch-22 is that if there is a forum already which people on the platform gravitate to, then your feed may become cluttered with BTC propaganda regardless. If there was a designated BTC page (or modified version of a forum, ie no 'straws') then surely it wouldn't be too difficult to include an opt-in/opt-out toggle. At very worst I would posit that it comes in and out of fashion in waves, much like a Brainchip, Polynovo or anything lithium or coal.

If it is true that having one BTC page set up like a company page is enough to derail the entire value proposition of the site then it kind of proves the point that more members are interested in exploring that avenue. I see it in the light of the general Strawman community being significantly more civilised and objective than the typical crowd that floods that space. At least being here on Strawman it would be a bit like giving your 17yo kid a glass of red with a roast dinner at home rather than having them climb out a window to head to a party to down a 6 pack of pink cruisers.

It would likely be very beneficial for us all to keep a track record of thoughts alongside a designated "crypto corner" (which is just bitcoin). This is something that doesn't seem to be going away and has a very intriguing future no matter which way it goes.

All of that being said, it is clear from the engagement levels on this post that the support is against my suggestion and this is certainly not a hill I want to die on. I do believe, however that there is neutral to value-added outcome here as opposed to the theorised negative tilt.

I'm hard shell tacos for beef, soft tacos for seafood. In case anybody was wondering.

I hear you @Timocracy. If S&P didn't have some weird classification for what is an ETF vs an ETP (exchange traded product) -- providing data for the former but not the latter -- we wouldn't need to do anything. There'd just be a page for EBTC, which tracks the price.

As it stands, it requires a separate data feed and a bunch of technical work. That's not impossible, of course, but unless there's a strong desire from a majority it's probably not worth the effort -- especially if it's a negative for many.

As @Vandelay suggests, there is an existing forum post (here: https://strawman.com/forums/topic/4817).

That makes sense then @Strawman so what I understand is that EBTC while accessible on the ASX through a brokerage platform, is classed as an ETP rather than an ETF and that's the hurdle to having it viewable on SM?

I can definitely appreciate the extra hassle is not worth it for one sideshow unless the benefit was substantial which I know this wouldn't be at all (that is, if we can be assured that the strong feelings against it aren't reflected within the whole group). For now I might just ask ChatGPT every day if BTC is a "good buy" yet and take that advice ;)

Not sure if this has been raised before but it will be good if we can see the grand total value of our portfolio and the percentage change versus yesterday.

Saves us having to keep track of this ourselves

Great idea!

This would be awesome !!

yeah I like that idea too @Vandelay

I'm actually in the process of working through some new feature ideas, and this will be thrown in the mix.