Forum Topics China: A different *BAD* angle I hadn’t thought of/ knew about. Good OpEd
Mark1
Added 5 years ago

US market opens with a big bounce for Chinese ADRs

 

COMPANYLASTCHGCHG %

Pinduoduo Inc. ADR 13.78%

NetEase Inc. ADR 9.39%

JD.com Inc. ADR 6.73%

Baidu Inc. ADR 5.42%

Trip.com Group Ltd. ADR$26.991.003.85

 

I do like 13% up but it was down that much yesterday.

 

Dunno if it's a Dead Cat Bounce.

 

Watching and shivering.

 

Mark 

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Mark1
Added 5 years ago

Chinese ADRs down 10% in US morning opening.

ETF ASIA was down 1.5% on Mondays ASX open and slid to 4.6% down. So I had the oportunity to sell.

Sticky now. Don't like these things.

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Dominator
Added 5 years ago

I have a decent holding in ASIA as well. Long term it is hard to see how this isn’t a winner but it is going to be a much more volatile holding over the period. I additionally hold VGE to hold emerging markets outside of technology. However, I have been considering moving that holding to the Freedom 100 Emerging Markets ETF - FRDM (US based) after hearing about it on the Acquirer’s Multiple podcast. Links: FRDM website  and Index info. I like the concept of the ETF to remove some of the political and instability risks of emerging markets. On the negative side this fund is small and untested over a long period.

I don't think China will go too hard on these companies for an extended period. I see this kind of action more as a warning to the large Chinese companies to remind them who is in control. Foreign investment is important. It would be counter-productive to what China has done over the past 30+ years to create long lasting impacts on the ability of Chinese companies to raise foreign capital.

 

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Chagsy
Added 5 years ago

Another option is to buy VGE. I'm a holder in super. 
https://www.vanguard.com.au/adviser/products/documents/32129/AU

it is an emerging market fund with a management expense fee of 0.48% which is very reasonable. 
fully 40% is invested in China, 17% Taiwan and 12% India. 
thats just the way the index is weighted these days - so accessing a very vanilla fund with a low fee gives you access to most of these high growth Asian stocks 

regards

Charlie

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Chagsy
Added 5 years ago

I should add there are lots of high growth Chinese companies that keep a very low profile and you have never heard of, yet are the best in their field in the world. 
biggest LI  battery producer? CATL - anyone heard of that?  

biggest EV Pproducer ? BYD. Buffett bought in years ago. 

likewise with numerous "green energy " areas such as PV manufacturers etc. 

there is a whole Wild West of Chinese companies to explore if you have the risk appetite and tenacity. 
personally for these areas I'm happy to own the index!

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