Hi @SaberX - to answer your query about my SMSF. Some wouldn't call it an SMSF because it's really an industry super fund allowing members to choose where they wish to invest up to 80% of their capital within that fund, with rules, and the rules are the strategy, so there's no cost in setting it up, or ongoing audit or annual costs, just the low monthly fees that the industry fund charges.
A small number of the larger industry funds now offer this service, because it keeps members' capital within the fund rather than having people take their money out and set up their own standalone SMSF. An industry super fund is a fund that has been set up through the industry employers association(s) and union(s) working together, and both sides have representation on the governing Board and associated committees within the fund. The main difference is that the shareholders are the fund members, so there is no mandate to make profits from fees to pass onto others, the fees just need to cover their own running costs, which is why the fees are lower than retail super funds run by corporations like AMP.
So the advantage to those industry funds in offering this service is that they keep the capital within the fund and the larger the fund the lower the fees are from their own service providers, so to give one example, they can play insurers off against each other to get the best insurance deals (for members' employment insurance, life insurance, and TPD insurance). They are also able to negotiate lower fees in percentage terms from third party investment managers that they use for portions of their FUM.
The advantage to members is they can do most of what they could do within a traditional standalone SMSF, but without the associated costs. So control of a good portion of their own super without excessive fees. It suits people who are in accumulation phase who have a moderate super balance. I think once you go over around $1.5 million it might be cheaper to run your own standalone SMSF outside of an industry fund because of economies of scale, and because the industry super funds charge a reasonably low monthly fee which is a percentage of your balance and that would become significant if your balance was high enough. I think for balances under $1m, there are cost advantages to using an industry fund, which is why I do it.
The Industry Fund's investment rules for members are set by a committee that each fund has that is made up of representatives of the industry unions, employers, and finance professionals. Because people are not required to make their own rules, the fund wants to have rules that protect people from excessive risk, such as putting all their eggs in one basket, or investing is speculative companies that could easily go to zero. Some of the common rules are:
- You can only invest up to 80% of your fund's balance within that "Members Choice" discretionary section; and those funds can grow and exceed 80% due to capital appreciation, but you won't be able to do more purchases of shares while 80% or more of your total balance is invested in directly chosen shares. The other 20% has to be invested in one of the following: One or more of the fund's investment strategies (such as high growth, growth, balanced, conservative, etc.) and/or cash, and/or other managed funds that the industry fund offers - mine (CBUS) offers two managed funds, CBUS Property and CBUS Infrastructure, and I have chosen to invest in both. The Infrastructure Fund has provided much better returns than the Property Fund (which is 100% commercial property, mainly office buildings in major capital cities).
- You can invest up to 20% of your total balance in any one single ASX-listed company. Again, that weighting can exceed 20% due to capital appreciation, but you won't be able to add to it via further share purchases until it represents less than 20% of your total balance. To be clear, there is no limit on how many companies you can invest in (as long as they all meet the other rules), however each one of those exposures must not exceed 20% at the point that you are adding it or topping that position up.
- You can only invest in ASX-listed companies, and only if they are in the ASX-300 Index (which of course includes all of the ASX200 and ASX100 indices). Outside of those 300 companies, you can also choose to invest in ETFs/ETPs as long as they are on an approved list for that particular industry fund. The funds have been growing those lists in recent years to include more ETFs and ETPs (Exchange Traded Products, such as a physical gold-backed ETF), but there are still some big ETFs absent from many of these lists, so that is certainly something to consider when weighing up the pros and cons of doing an SMSF in this way.
That second rule (the "20% rule") is all about risk management and Andrew has also adopted it here on SM, so the same rule applies here.
Some Industry Funds might now have extended their "allowable investment universe" beyond these limits, such as now including major global companies that aren't listed on the ASX, but I haven't heard of that, and my fund, CBUS, which is the second or third largest Industry Fund in Australia hasn't extended yet. If I want to invest in overseas shares, I have to do it through an approved ETF. I can also invest in a manager like MFG or PTM (because both are in the ASX300 Index) but not the funds that they manage (because those Platinum and Magellan funds are not in the ASX300).
Australia's largest Industry Super Fund is Australian Super - and they call this "self-managed" option "Members Direct", see here: https://www.australiansuper.com/investments/your-investment-options/member-direct
CBUS call theirs "CBUS Self Managed" - see here: https://www.cbussuper.com.au/super/my-investment-options/cbus-self-managed
Hostplus Super (an industry super fund set by the hospitality industry) call theirs "ChoicePlus" - see here: https://hostplus.com.au/members/our-products-and-services/investment-options/your-investment-options/choiceplus
Not all Industry Super Fund offer this service. One of Australia's largest Industry Super Funds, Aware Super - which was originally set up for NSW Public Service Employees but is now open to everybody - does not allow this level of self-management within their fund - however they offer 14 different investment strategies for their members to choose from, and you can mix and match, and also make regular changes to the mix if you wish - see here: https://aware.com.au/member/what-we-offer/investments/unit-prices
Another Industry Fund, Australian Retirement Trust (or ART, which was formed through the merger of Sunsuper and QSuper and has over $240 billion in FUM on behalf of more than 2.2 million members) does provide a "DIY" or "Choose your own investment strategy" option, however it is not yet at a level that allows you to choose individual companies to include in your portfolio (like Australian Super, CBUS and HostPlus do) - instead, similar to Aware Super, ARF allow you to choose between 10 of their investment strategies - see here: https://www.australianretirementtrust.com.au/investments/options/diy
They have no membership restrictions. For instance, my fund was set up by the Construction and Building Unions originally (and once stood for Construction and Building Unions Superannuation), but the unions now have equal representation on the Board with the Employers' Associations, however you do NOT need to work in those industries to join or remain a member. I work in food manufacturing now, but I'm still with CBUS. I did try Australian Super for a few years but went back to CBUS because they had a better (larger) offering of ETFs and managed funds at that time.
So I refer to that as my SMSF because it's my Super, in a Fund, and I Self Manage it, so that's why I regard it as my Self Managed Super Fund. It just has more restrictions than a traditional standalone SMSF, but lower costs.
Here's a little more reading, from HESTA (another industry super fund): https://www.hesta.com.au/campaigns/smsfs#whatsthedifference [Major Super Fund vs. SMSF: Running a superannuation fund is a big job. Is it something you should take on? Let's look at some of the differences of being with a major fund like HESTA versus a self-managed super fund (SMSF).]
Plus: https://www.hesta.com.au/stories/ivans-story
HESTA was an Industry Fund set up for Health and Community Services employees, and they do not provide members with the ability to invest directly in individual companies chosen by those members, but they do offer a range of options to mix and match within, and they have consistently been among the top performers within the industry, usually outperforming larger funds including many of the leading corporate-run retail super funds. Similarly to Aware Super, they do highlight their green credentials (or environmental responsibility awareness) as well, as you'll see if you click on this link and scroll down: https://www.hesta.com.au/about-us
So, Horses for Courses, different solutions will suit different people. Having my SMSF within an Industry Fund works well for me, despite the restrictions. Mostly because of its size (sub-$1m).
Further Reading (how Industry Fund performance compares to other large Australian Superannuation Funds):
https://www.finder.com.au/super-funds/best-super-funds
https://www.canstar.com.au/superannuation/
https://www.canstar.com.au/superannuation/compare/best-performing-super-funds/
https://blog.stockspot.com.au/best-performing-super-funds/
Experts reveal the best and worst super funds | 7NEWS - YouTube [October 2022]