Forum Topics CKF CKF Negative Trading Update 22/8

Pinned straw:

Added 3 months ago

Key points:

  1. Profit gains on higher sales were more than offset by the impact of persistent inflation on cost of sales, labour and energy
  2. Same store sales (SSS) performance continued to reflect weaker consumer sentiment in Australia and Europe and the impacts arising from the conflict in the Middle East, which has affected sales in the Netherlands
  3. H1 FY25 margins are expected to contract relative to prior year


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Arizona
Added 3 months ago

@juneauquan It is often said that companies like CKF will perform well when the economy is struggling.

The logic being that people will move from more expensive restaurants to KFC and DMP and McDonald's etc as money gets tight.

It seems that ain't necessarily so.

Perhaps customers do behave that way to some extent, but these are complicated businesses with many moving parts. Staffing, equipment, multiple ingredients, I remember during Covid CKF had to use cabbage as a substitute for lettuce.

I had held CKF for many years and done well out of it over the long term, I bought in at $1.31 before selling out at $11.18 during a run up in the SP late last year.

I had told myself I'd have another look at it when it got to $7.50. It almost got there today.


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juneauquan
Added 3 months ago

There is logic in thinking a company like Collins Food should do well when there are cost-of-living pressures.

QSR cheaper than traditional restaurants

However, I saw a tweet the other day about some American complaining about the price of fast food - the Five Guys if I remember correctly. His meal cost something like $21 for a burger/fries/drink.

That made me think that possibly people are tightening their food budgets to the point where they eating more at home than they have in the past because home-mdae meals are by far the cheapest option

PLUS

This could be a erroneous assumption on my part: the older generations, who are being affected less by cost-of-living pressure, tend to eat less at QSR restaurants while those more likely to go to KFC or McDonalds are the younger generations, some of whom are under signifcant financial stress right now.

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Solvetheriddle
Added 3 months ago

@juneauquan Poor QSR results have been a worldwide phenomenon. i can only think of CMG doing well. besides the usual fried chicken v burgers v pizza comparative value leapfrogging, the main issue is that costs, mainly commodity but also wages (low-wage workers getting inflation-related raises) are crunching margins. it only takes the marginal consumer to change to make a difference on the sales side, that is a couple of % change their habits, eg eat at home, or move to another QSR format. these trends have been in place for about two years now, IMO they are the tail end of the inflation issues we have seen and ultimately will pass.

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Arizona
Added 3 months ago

This idea has been thrown around for years and makes some sense on the surface.

But dig a little deeper and (like most things in this life) its a little more nuanced.


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edgescape
Added 3 months ago

Bit of a shock here

Still find there are lots of people queueing up at KFC where I am in Chatswood

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UlladullaDave
Added 3 months ago

I would hazard the problem is shrinking basket size and less upselling. The margin at KFC comes from the fries and drinks not the chicken, at Dominoes it's all the frankenfood sides and at Chargrill Charlie's the salads etc. People still turn up for their chicken – the foundation of these fast food businesses is "craveability" after all – they just don't get the bells and whistles. Toss in a bit of cost inflation and CKF has a rough year or so.

I don't think the trade down from restaurants to fast food/QSR theory actually exists in the real world. Most people will just stay home.

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Arizona
Added 3 months ago

@UlladullaDave I agree, the theory really doesn't seem to have played out.

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