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Added 3 months ago

Something from Crikey - not sure if it is paywalled as I got this extract from Factiva.

Like all the best frauds, it is stunning in its simplicity. This example from the ACCC tells the story: the shelf price of a family pack of Oreo cookies at Woolies was $3.50 for two years, from January 1, 2021 to November 27, 2022. Then the price skyrocketed to $5.00.

Twenty-two days later, the Oreos price fell to $4.50. Woolies promoted it as a “Prices Dropped” special, showing the “was” price as $5.00.

This is the essence of the prosecution the ACCC has launched against Woolies and Coles: it says it has identified 511 instances between the two supermarket giants where they temporarily raised a product’s price, then reduced it to a level higher than the “real” underlying price, claiming to deliver customers a discount.

In consumer law terms, this is a classic species of misleading or deceptive conduct. It induces customers to buy, thinking they are getting a bargain when in fact they’re being ripped off. The case law is clear — if the facts are as the ACCC alleges, both grocery giants are going down, down.

But I said “fraud”. That’s beyond the ACCC’s remit, although it can prosecute cases like these as criminal offences if they’re serious enough. Fraud is a different beast: it requires knowing dishonesty, designed to obtain a financial advantage from someone else by deceiving them.

I mention it not because there’s any prospect Woolies and Coles will be prosecuted for criminal fraud, but because it underlines a remarkable feature of their corporate behaviour: sheer flagrancy.

Consider just how brutally cynical the Oreos pricing exercise was. It cannot have happened by accident or inadvertence; inside Woolworths, somebody, or rather some number of people, thought it up and decided it was a great idea. It then passed who knows how many other pairs of corporate eyes before and during its execution. And nobody said, “Wait, that’s wrong.”

It’s difficult to see how the companies could have imagined an internal justification for this practice other than “this will make us more money, by tricking our customers”. Sure, it’s the exact opposite of the values they so constantly advertise, but the hypocrisy isn’t the most stunning aspect. It’s the sheer amorality — wrongdoing by design, not ethically distinguishable from theft.

A close analogy to this scenario can be found at Qantas and the practice it developed — also exposed by the ACCC — of selling tickets for flights it knew had already been cancelled. If the company operated out of a car boot instead of shiny buildings, its key executives would have been in handcuffs for perpetrating an unsophisticated but effective fraud.

Bewailing people in expensive suits routinely getting away with things ordinary joes can’t is not worth losing sleep over. It is what it is. What’s interesting is how easily this sort of corporate amorality emerges and is translated into deeply harmful action, inside companies that commit so much of their time and advertising budgets on convincing us they would not — could not — ever do such a thing.

The modern-day, ESG-intent, corporate-social-responsibility-loving company operates on an ostensible moral plane about a billion light years higher than that of the robber barons of a century ago, or of the Enrons and James Hardies of accessible memory. Their boards surely shudder to think they could ever even contemplate actively harming their key stakeholders, the most key of whom are their cherished customers.

Woolworths’ mission is to “create better experiences together for a better tomorrow”, to which end it strives to have "a positive impact on our team, our planet, our customers and the communities we serve”. By no contrast, Coles is “dedicated to delivering quality, value service to Aussie families and communities”; it is “proud to help Aussies live happier, healthier lives”.

Again, though, the hypocrisy isn’t the point. The question we should be asking is why. Is this disjuncture between good intentions and bad actions inevitably inherent in the nature of the corporate beast?

The good news is that the answer is no. Amorality is a choice. It is true that the less competition a company faces, the more likely it is that it will engage in monopolistic behaviour to the detriment of its competitors, customers and community. That doesn’t mean its guiding minds have no agency in doing so.

Investing corporations with their own legal identity was a mistake, because it implies they have a soul (they don’t). This provides a too-ready excuse for the humans who populate them to evade personal responsibility for their choices.

Which points to a solution. Coles and Woolies will cop a plea deal, no doubt, and pay penalties in the millions. That will not change their behaviour, because they can’t behave (or misbehave).

If we want the people who run corporations to make better choices, they need to face personal consequences when they choose to make their employer do harm. Otherwise, prepare to rinse and repeat.

BTW: We choice to buy or not to buy Oreo's!

I agree that both will just get a watered-down fine.

May be a bargain here as I'm sure all the funds will buy the dip like ALS labs trading on knife-edge flat to negative forecast EPS.

Mujo
Added 3 months ago

I wonder how much of this is political driven given the rhetoric from politicians blaming supermarkets for high inflation and high interest rates instead of the excessive government spending.

I have a very low opinion of our regulators - especially the ACCC and ASIC - APRA seems a bit better, although they have done some outright dumb things too.

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NewbieHK
Added 3 months ago

Call me a cynic but, this is 100% political! House prices are up what, 100% in 5-year? Are we going to have the ACCC, knocking on the door of realestate agents and questioning the maintenance of 2-3% commissions? I would say no. Instead they go after groceries and supermarkets.

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Bradbury
Added 3 months ago

The real estate sector is getting a bit of attention too. Not the agents though.

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/sep/24/rea-group-real-estate-com-au-pricing-structure-fees




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Mujo
Added 3 months ago

Forest for the trees - my god.

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Mujo
Added 3 months ago

Andrew Leigh who is leading this is the same guy that thought Vanguard etc controlled the world too - Andrew Leigh slips up - Australian business isn't run by five faceless investors (smh.com.au)

How he got to where he is now is beyond me - politics.

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Strawman
Added 3 months ago

So glad we're going after these greedy businesses to solve the cost of living crisis.

Definitely has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that we increased the money supply by 55% in the last 5 years, slashed borrowing costs to record lows, embarked on an aggressive yield curve control program, introduced a generous term funding facility for banks, doubled federal government debt, lowered lending buffers, and delivered huge fiscal stimulus...

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To be fair, you need to consider what the counterfactual would have been in the absence of these measures. But let's acknowledge that you can't embark on such aggressive monetary and fiscal support without generating big distortions.

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Colflan
Added 3 months ago

@Strawman, I found myself enthusiastically smashing the thumbs-up button to your straw (pre-coffee on an early Saturday morning)! It's disappointing that our mainstream media (including the publicly funded one) would rather latch on to and talk about 'evil Coles and Woolies' than provide pushback against this political theatre/distraction and offer some actual grown-up analysis of the situation.

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SudMav
Added 3 months ago

well said! Totally agree

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Bear77
Added 3 months ago

There is certainly plenty of politics in this, however when retailers who control a very large share of the food and grocery sector in the country jack the prices of certain items up 20% for a couple of weeks and then drop them by 10% and advertise that as a price drop to fool customers into paying more than the old price while thinking they're saving money, that needs to be called out and there needs to be financial repercussions and public shaming, because without those consequences that sort of behaviour not only continues, it tends to escalate.

Some companies are always trying to make as much as they can within the rules, and often push the boundaries of those rules, so boundaries need to be set and enforced, and misleading and deceptive conduct is one of the ACCC's main claims against COL & WOW.

So - balance. We have political grand-standing, as tends to happen, and pollies don't need to be too brave to complain about price gouging by these retailers when the majority of the country are feeling like pollies should do something about the cost of living increasing as it has. It tends to be a popular crusade, except with the retailers themselves, their industry bodies, and the people who are invested in those retailers.

So, there's an element there of going for the easy option rather than the main root causes, but the flip side of that is that those people at Coles and Woolworths who come up with these deceptive marketing campaigns, and those within those companies who approve them, need to be held to account and it needs to be made clear to them that there ARE people watching and they WILL be called out on this stuff. And there WILL be consequences for bad corporate behaviour. There often isn't, but there certainly should be. And there will be in this case at least.

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Remorhaz
Added 3 months ago

meanwhile in the AFR: Woolworths and Coles could be ‘innocent’: Samuel and Supermarket pile-on is going to cause real harm

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Woolworths and Coles could be ‘innocent’: Samuel

Woolworths and Coles could be totally innocent of allegations they were misleading customers and manipulating specials, with politicians wanting to find someone to blame for higher prices, former competition regulator Graeme Samuel says.

The former Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman’s comments come as the regulator’s interim report into the grocery sector found the two major supermarkets had increased their earnings and operating margins over the past five years.

The ACCC accused the two big retailers of targeting families with stretched budgets and seeking discounts. Bethany Rae

Those findings, from an investigation requested by Treasurer Jim Chalmers in February, will increase the political pressure on Woolworths and Coles, which argue they are not price gouging or making outsize profits.

“Customers don’t deserve to be treated as fools by the supermarkets. They deserve better than that,” Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said on Thursday.

The interim report published on Friday comes in a difficult week for Woolworths and Coles. On Monday, the ACCC accused both companies of misleading customers by increasing the price of goods then decreasing it slightly, telling shoppers that they were now on sale.

Don’t rush to judge

Mr Samuel – who ran the ACCC when it last reviewed the grocery sector in 2008 – said it was possible the supermarket giants had done nothing wrong during a time of high-cost inflation.

Mr Samuel said he had no interest in defending Woolworths and Coles, but there could be another explanation.

“If they deceived consumers they should have the book thrown at them, but if it is the other narrative ... there will need to be some apologies,” he said, adding politicians were not interested in explaining how a jump in the price of goods and logistics had pushed up prices on shelves.

“Coles and Woolworths will either be shown to have been deceptive and ripping off customers, or there is total innocence. It could very well be that the higher prices were caused by suppliers,” he said.

“It would be a month later the supermarkets decided to offer discounts and specials. That is a very different explanation to one that is being told this week.”

While the government commissioned the ACCC’s investigation, the Coalition and the Greens want more action. Both have called for the government to be given the power to force the sale of supermarkets if Woolworths or Coles are found to be acting in a way that is limiting competition.

The ACCC report found Coles and Woolworths may have consolidated market power through loyalty schemes and hoarding undeveloped land. Both had increased earnings margins over the past five years, it found, although the companies say their profit levels are not unreasonably high.

Graeme Samuel says the government should not stop players such as Amazon or Aldi from getting bigger, since they provide choice to shoppers. Alex Ellinghausen

Supermarket profitability and margins will be a key consideration in the final months of the 12-month inquiry, including through the analysis of the supermarkets’ own data provided to the competition regulator.

The company’s chief executives are set to face public hearings in November, ahead of a final report due by February next year. The ACCC will analyse the prices of products including beef, chicken, pork, milk, biscuits, pet food and dishwashing tablets over the next five months.

The ACCC estimates the price of a typical basket of groceries has increased by more than 20 per cent in the past five years.

Consumers losing trust

The ACCC’s deputy chairman, Mick Keogh, said growth in food prices was largely in line with inflation in other goods and services, and is lower than in most major economies. However, he said the ACCC planned to look closely at how market power held by the supermarkets had played into increasing shelf prices for consumers or decreasing prices to suppliers.

The ACCC found in its early investigations into the $135 billion sector that planning and zoning laws were likely to be slowing store development and hindering new entrants, which could challenge Coles and Woolworths.

It outlined Woolworths had a stake in 110 development sites for new stores around the country, while Coles had another 42 on its books.

Discount chain Aldi held only 13 undeveloped sites. Whether significant property purchases or blocks of undeveloped land proved allegations of “land banking” had yet to be determined, the ACCC said.

The ACCC will consider whether the retailers are unfairly hiking the prices charged to consumers on the everyday items, and whether suppliers, wholesalers are getting fair rates for their goods.

“Elevated margins and profitability can be a consequence of a business holding market power,” the 266-page report said.

“However, it is important to note that charging high prices, including in an exercise of market power, is not of itself a contravention of Australia’s competition or consumer laws.”

Mr Keogh said a key finding in the ACCC’s investigations was that many consumers had lost trust in supermarket pricing. They raised concerns about being penalised for not participating in loyalty programs.

“With the introduction of member-only pricing, some consumers may feel they have no option but to participate in loyalty programs, even if they have concerns about handing over data to the supermarkets,” Mr Keogh said.

Woolworths and Coles have a combined 67 per cent share of grocery retail sales while Aldi has about 9 per cent and Metcash supplied independent supermarkets IGA have 7 per cent.

It has taken Aldi more than 20 years to reach its position, showing the difficulty of growing in Australia. In 2020 German retailer Kaufland threw in the towel and withdraw from Australia before opening its first store.

A key development following the ACCC grocery inquiry in 2008 was the introduction of unit pricing, which has made it easier for consumers to compare products and find the best value.

The report also found the industry was “workably competitive”, and since then, more competition has entered the market from Aldi, Costco and Amazon.

Mr Samuel said the government should not stop players such as Amazon or Aldi from getting bigger, since they provide choice to shoppers.

“I say let them go, Amazon is offering competition to the incumbents. They are also supporting smaller businesses. I say give them free rein don’t stop them because they are big and American. Give consumers a free choice.”

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Supermarket pile-on is going to cause real harm

If the supermarkets are guilty, then throw the book at them. But it’s populist politics that is really at work here.

Who could be surprised? We have an election looming in the next nine months. We have sticky inflation and the resultant painful cost of living and interest rates. So someone needs to be blamed.

Supermarkets are the latest in the conga line of culprits blamed for the cost-of-living crisis. First, the Reserve Bank copped it briefly. Next in the blame game queue are the supermarkets – the duopoly of Coles and Woolworths – let’s not even acknowledge the presence of Aldi, Costco, IGA and other independents, and the ubiquitous Amazon.

And so the pile-on begins. They are accused of “price gouging” by politicians and my predecessor at the ACCC, Allan Fels, but no evidence is produced to validate these claims. Fels, the Nationals and the Greens, with the tacit support of the Liberals, want the ACCC to have the power to break up the major supermarket chains. In fact, this motley group would seek to break up any big business that behaves “anti-competitively”. It seems being big is bad.

The pile-on became a tsunami this week, after the ACCC launched legal proceedings against the supermarket chains alleging deceptive conduct in their pricing strategies. The fact that these are, at this stage, allegations to be tested in our courts, hasn’t stopped politicians from all sides, the media and former regulators, from ripping into the supermarkets on the basis that the ACCC claims have been proven.

Let me address some myths out there, not to defend the supermarkets, but hopefully to inject some rational analysis into the discussion.

First, the proposed Food and Grocery Code of Conduct. Despite claims made by some politicians, this has no impact on prices at the supermarket checkout counter – except as a possible constraint on supplier-demanded price increases. It is a code to regulate the trading relationship between the major supermarkets, including Aldi and Metcash (as a wholesaler) and their suppliers.

The code primarily seeks to ensure that these relationships are conducted in good faith. It imposes a mediation and arbitration process on negotiations between suppliers and the supermarkets to resolve disputes. Unless the farmers are directly supplying to the supermarkets, the code will not apply to them and their dealings with, for example, processors. Importantly, the code does not address the shelf pricing practices of the supermarkets.

If the supermarkets are exonerated … can we expect those who have been engaged in the pile-on to apologise?

The Choice comparison of the cost of baskets of supermarket products would have more credibility if it detailed the contents of each basket of goods to enable us to be sure that there is a like-for-like comparison. Aldi’s packaged goods are predominantly home-brand products, while Coles and Woolworths predominantly sell branded products, with inherent higher costs associated with the marketing of the label. This is why home brands are cheaper than branded products, often with little to differentiate between the two in terms of quality.

The recent court actions launched by the ACCC will be very interesting to watch as they unfold. If the ACCC is vindicated by the courts in its allegations of deceptive conduct, the big supermarkets will deserve all that the courts throw at them – and should be excoriated in the strongest of terms.

But there could be another explanation for the facts as detailed in the ACCC court documents as to what occurred through late 2022 and early 2023. It is possible that through that time, when inflation had peaked at 7.82 per cent, the suppliers demanded price increases, to which the supermarkets acceded. But these increases necessitated resultant increases in shelf prices. And then the supermarkets detected resistance to these products from customers. So they then reduced the prices, in the form of specials, to attract customer purchases. Deceptive conduct or savvy marketing? That will be for the courts to decide.

The truly credible inquiry and resultant report will be the formal ACCC price inquiry requested by the Treasurer in 2023 and to be released this year. It should be a thorough examination of supermarket prices and will either prove or debunk the allegations of “price-gouging”.

But will all this make any difference to the continued supermarket pile-on? Of course not, until at least inflation and interest rates start to fall. And if the supermarkets are exonerated in terms of the allegations of price-gouging and deceptive pricing practices, can we expect those who have been engaged in the pile-on to apologise for the reputational damage that has been and will continue to be sustained by the supermarkets?

Of course not – that is the nature of the populism that has invaded our political discourse over the past 12 months and will continue unabated until the next election and probably beyond.

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Bear77
Added 3 months ago

Yes @Remorhaz - they could be totally innocent. Anything is possible. I have a ticket, so I might win lotto tonight. It's possible.

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Mr Graeme Samuel AC


LLB Melb, LLM Monash, FAICD

Graeme Samuel AC is a Professor in Monash University's Business School. He is also Chair of Airlines for Australia and New Zealand (A4ANZ), Chair of the Dementia Australia Research Foundation, Co-Chair of the national Network of Comprehensive Dementai Centres and Chair of the Australian Dementia Network Ltd (ADNet). He was a member of the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority's Panel to conduct a Prudential Inquiry into the culture, governance and accountability of Commonwealth Bank of Australia and was Chair of the panel which conducted a Capability Review of APRA. He conducted an Independent Review commissioned by the Commonwealth Government of the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act, as well as a review for the Commonwealth Government of the Food and Grocery Code of Conduct. He was co-lead of a Review of the Defence Trade Controls Act. 

He was Chair of the Commonwealth Government's Panel of Review of Australia's Independent Medical Research Institutes and advisor to the Commonwealth Department of Health in relation to its review of private health insurance. He was also a member of the Review Panel of Australia's Wool Selling Systems. In 2014 he completed a project as Independent Reviewer to advise the Victorian Government on economic regulation, governance and the efficient operation of the Victorian urban water sector.

Professor Samuel has held a number of roles in public life including former Chairman of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, Associate Member of the Australian Communications and Media Authority, President of the National Competition Council, Chairman of the Melbourne and Olympic Parks Trust, Commissioner of the Australian Football League, President of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Chairman of PlayboxMalthouse Theatre Company and Opera Australia, Trustee of the Melbourne Cricket Ground Trust and Chairman of the Inner and Eastern Health Care Network. He served for eight years (from 2011 to 2019) as a member of the ANU Council, and seven years as Chair of the ANU Finance Committee.

He was appointed an Officer of the Order of Australia in 1998. In 2010 he was elevated to a Companion of the Order of Australia "for eminent service to public administration through contributions in the area of economic reform and competition law, and to the community through leadership roles with sporting and cultural organisations".

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Source: https://www.anu.edu.au/about/governance/committees/nominations-committee


While Graeme Samuel has spent most of his life working with government or for government organisations (like the ACCC) he has also spent time on the dark side: He was President of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry from 1995-1997, and he's a highly educated and very intelligent academic, so he's quite capable of arguing a case from either side. He probably would be an excellent investor actually, being able to see both the pros and the cons and not become trapped in his own biases.

He's right to point out that there could be a reasonable explanation for that retailer behaviour, but the consensus seems to be that the sheer volume of products that were involved and the time period over which the practise took place - according to the ACCC - leaves little doubt that this practise of hiking prices for a few weeks or a month and then lowering them a little to create the appearance of a discount - was a strategy that was being employed by Coles and Woolworths. There may be the odd case where Samuel's possible explanation is plausable, but not for all of those incidences I would bet.

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