Forum Topics SGR SGR A Disgrace

Pinned straw:

Added 7 months ago

How you can stuff up so badly when you operate a casino -- something that enjoys favourable and mathematically guaranteed odds, and that enjoys a potent regulatory moat -- is beyond me. As it turns out, even when you (allegedly) break the law, you still can't deliver decent returns to shareholders.

Even at the revenue line, they made less this year than they did 10 years ago. The huge loss at the bottom line was due to a whopping $1.4b writedown, which always gets waved away as "non-cash" but simply means they massively overpaid for major assets (and represents a very real loss when looked at holistically)

At least a lot of vulnerable "gaming" addicts were exploited along the way, eh? :(

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raymon68
Added 7 months ago

New CEOs and Chair lots happening here.

Transformation – The Star Entertainment Group

New Leadership

Board

29 April 2024 Appointment of new Chair

07 Feb 2024  Appointment to the Board – Peter Hodgson (subject to regulatory approvals)

Management

26 June 2024 Appointment of Group Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director (subject to regulatory approvals)

24 June 2024 Leadership update

30 May 2024 Appointment of Group Chief Operations Officer (subject to regulatory approvals)

22 March 2024 Appointment of Interim Group Chief Financial Officer

22 March 2024 Departure of Group Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director

25 January 2024 The Star appoints Sydney CEO

23 January 2024 The Star appoints Brisbane CEO


More Information




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Solvetheriddle
Added 7 months ago

Not good, my partner is a dealer in the Sydney casino and bet limits and the number of players-by table limits are still coming on. ie effectively reducing profit per table. the punters still seem keen, God bless em.

My conclusion to this disaster is the casino needed to have the politicians' onside, i can't imagine big Kez allowing this to happen if he owned it. no politician would be game.

the management here has lost control.

at the moment it is having the crap beat out of it. some may say deservedly so.


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Bear77
Added a month ago

ABC News: Star Entertainment has found a lifeline for now but casinos face long-term problems [Tues 11-March-2025]


I won't bother reproducing that article as it's not behind a paywall, so just click on the link above to read it. SGR is still suspended from trading, and their longer term future remains unclear, however I do note that with the exception of Aristocrat Leisure (ALL), ASX-listed gambling companies have not been kind to investors over the past three years:

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I realised after I'd done that graph that I forgot one, Ainsworth Game Technology (AGI), which Len Ainsworth started after being diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1984 and giving all of his Aristocrat Leisure (ALL) stock away to his family and then becoming cancer-free. Following that clear diagnosis, Ainsworth initially retired and then established AGI, later selling his majority stake in AGI to Novomatic for A$473 million when Len was aged 94 years. He's now around 102 and still going. Link: https://asgam.com/2023/07/11/len-ainsworth-founder-of-slot-machine-giants-aristocrat-and-ainsworth-turns-100/ [11-July-2023]

Anyway, the three year return on AGI has been -24.78%, so AGI has also lost ground, just not as much ground as those other 7 companies have (the 7 that are not Aristrocrat).

A few of them have more positive returns over shorter-term share price charts, like TAH over 6 months and PBH over 1 year, but only Aristocrat (ALL) has outperformed over 3 years.

I avoid the sector myself so I haven't held any of these companies except for a small JIN position a few years back for a short time (I do like to buy the odd lottery ticket every now and then) - but having read about all of the issues that Australian casinos have been having in recent years, I thought I'd just check out how the sector has been travelling, and the answer appears to be: Not good.

Big difference between the best performer (and only positive performer over 3 years), ALL, and the worst, SGR:

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Still, plenty of other fish in the sea.

I personally prefer to roll the dice in the Aussie gold sector where I think the odds are more in my favour.


28-03-2025: Addition: Two weeks on, I came across Light & Wonder (LNW) which has actually performed about as well as ALL has, and I remembered TLC, which hasn't. See here: #Class Action impact for Light & Wonder, Inc.

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Also, LNW vs ALL:

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LNW has only been listed on the ASX since May 2023, hence the green line for LNW.asx starting there. They've been listed on the NASDAQ for over a decade.

My takeaway from that is that two of the companies (ALL, LNW) who make the actual slot machines (a.k.a. pokies) have provided decent investment returns but the remainder of the sector is underwater over three years. But LNW has a class action being mounted against them and has been in dispute with ALL (Aristocrat Leisure) over LNW's "Dragon Train" game. So while LNW looks cheaper, it has more risk, including that it is dual listed (NASDAQ + ASX) so is subject to legal issues in the USA, where you know they love to sue...

Disc: I don't hold any companies in this sector.

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Saasquatch
Added 7 months ago

Happy long weekend to the punters

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