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#Disgusted with China and its a
Added 3 months ago

So after FIRB said the Chinese had to sell....China sets up a new company and transfers the shares. Imagine we did this type of thing in China. They would just take our investment....

This is a big test case for our Govt. USA will also be watching carefully.

Also note - no one brave enough to short NTU.....just no idea what will happen now.

My guess...Govt will give them one more chance...and then sell them themselves (through a broker).


NTU are hamstrung....and can't sell their product to Illuka unless this China stuff goes away.



AFR has a clear explanation of the state of play and further detail.


Probe into investors in minerals firm. Brad Thompson


Treasury will run the rule over new major shareholders in Northern Minerals after the China-linked fund ordered by the federal government to offload the majority of its stake sold out to Hong Kong-registered groups with almost no corporate history.


Northern Minerals is key to Labor’s plan to start a domestic critical minerals processing industry, with its Browns Range project supplying Australia’s first fully integrated rare earths refinery being built by Iluka Resources with a $1.25 billion government loan.Those minerals can be used in weapons systems and Australia, along with the United States, is pushing to break China’s monopoly on processing.


In June, Treasurer Jim Chalmers said he would force Northern Minerals’ largest shareholder, Singapore-registered Yuxiao Fund, and its associates to sell shares, citing their close connection with Chinese interests.Ahead of a deadline set by the government, Yuxiao sold its stake to two Hong Kong-registered companies, Qogir Trading & Service and Hong Kong Ying Tak. Each now controls 8.4 per cent of Northern Minerals.


But Qogir was only registered in April and has paid up capital of just $HK10,000 ($1892), according to the Hong Kong register of company interests. Eight of its nine shareholders live in China; the ninth, its only director, is a Chinese citizen.


Ying Tak is also registered in Hong Kong and has issued capital of $HK60 million. It was an investor in Northern Minerals before last week’s purchase.


Northern Minerals said it wants to meet with its two new shareholders. A spokesman for Dr Chalmers said the government expected some 165 million shares owned by one of Yuxiao’s associates which had yet to be sold to be divested quickly.


‘‘The government expects all outstanding share sales to be finalised imminently and will take further action if required to protect our national interest in relation to this matter,’’ the spokesman said. ‘‘As part of its usual processes, Treasury will undertake a full assessment of compliance with the disposal orders.’’


Treasury’s assessment of whether the divestment orders have been followed will include any links between those forced to sell and the new shareholders. It will come amid speculation that Dr Chalmers will visit China this month for meetings, including with representatives of the National Development and Reform Commission.


Northern Minerals’ former executive chairman Nick Curtis raised suspicious share trading and requested the Foreign Investment Review Board investigate last year. By the time that Mr Curtis had raised the alarm, Dr Chalmers had already blocked Yuxiao from increasing its stake in Northern Minerals to 19.9 per cent.


Mr Curtis quit the board in the face a Yuxiao-led push to have him removed at an extraordinary general meeting that was scheduled for June 6.Dr Chalmer issued his sell down order on June 3 and the following day Northern Minerals informed the market of a cybersecurity breach. The breach included the disclosure of corporate, operational and financial information, personnel records and shareholder information, with some of it published on the dark web.


The Australian Financial Reviewreported in November that Yuxiao, which was close to major Chinese rare earths players, signed a co-operation deal with China Northern and Shanghai-listed Shenghe Resources in front of Communist Party officials.


Northern Minerals shares were trading flat at 2.5¢ yesterday, down from a 12-month high of 4.7¢ in June in the aftermath of the divestment order.


Sources with direct knowledge of the transaction said that part of the problem for Yuxiao was the difficulty that brokers were having as they tried to sell Northern Mineral shares.


A plunge in price for the key ingredient in wind turbines, electronics and military applications has seen Lynas Rare Earths, the world’s biggest non-China supplier, withhold a portion of supply from the market this year. The lower prices have been linked to softer demand for permanent magnets and to oversupply in China.


The government’s push to start a domestic processing industry with the loan to Iluka last month hit a roadblock, when the company warned that it would halt work on the refinery unless more funding was given.


The stand-off between Iluka and the government comes amid a delay in Lynas building a US military-backed refinery in Texas that is expected to produce heavy rare earths oxides needed in the manufacture of permanent magnets. They are essential in modern weapons, including warplanes and nuclear-powered submarines.


Labor has begun taking a harder line on Chinese investment in the critical minerals sector as it looks to grow domestic processing and develop supply chains. China dominates global supply of most rare earths materials and has a monopoly on the processing of dysprosium and terbium.The US military, in particular, could be left stranded if China cuts off a supply of dysprosium and terbium.


Last December, China banned the export of rare earth technologies in a move to protect its market dominance.Northern Minerals has previously ended offtake agreements with Chinese groups in favour of a deal with German conglomerate Thyssenkrupp.

#I'm confused with NTU
Added 4 months ago

So the chinese have to sell about 600 million shares.....see the Federal Govt order

https://www.legislation.gov.au/F2024N00475/asmade/text

So these guys are 34 business days into 60 days given to divest the 600 million shares. ( i assume the 60 days are business days?)

And so far....since the 3 June 2024...there has been a total of about 100 million shares traded. Yikes. And that is assuming that all sells are from them (which obvioulsy it would not be....)

60 business days from the 3 June 2024 would be 27 August 2024 (think there was only one public holiday?). (60 days from 3 June 2024 would be about 1 August 2024)


So what are their options:

1 - Sell on market - This is going to be a blood bath if they try to sell their whole holding in the next 24 business days. Maybe they have been selling some? But wouldn't they have to disclose this to ASX and do an annoucement? Have not seen any to date.....So have they sold any? The may also ask for an extension maybe?

2 - Sell off market - Maybe they are in negotiations to do this? Who would buy it? 600 million shares at about 3 cents is about $18 million....so not a huge sum....who would want to take over the strategic stake?

3 - Force the Govt to dispose of them - So govt would likely engage a broker....who would do some off market deals to sell them (less their costs etc.). This would take some time.


Are there any other options?


What do others think is happening?

#Aust Govt Blocks Chinese Inves
Added 6 months ago

Wow. I think they could make a movie regarding Northern Materials (NTU)!!!

NTU are an Australian junior miner of rare earths (Dysprosium & Terbium) which are critical to high performance magnet production. I don't believe they have ever produced anything. But they are sitting on nice rare earth deposits - Two in WA and one in NT.

I can't remember all the exact timelines...so please DYOR is you want exact dates/timelines/story.

But about 1-2 years ago, when I was researching rare earths, I came across Northern Materials (formerly Northern Metals). And Illuka had just signed some sort of non binding agreement to process some of their rare earths.

So i was kind of interested.

Then I saw that there were some issues with China. My notes, around 1-2 years ago were "Chinese blocked from further investment. They wanted to go from 9% to 19%. "

Then it looked like they had another couple of years before they were ready to start signing binding agreements. So I kind of stopped following them.

But since the Foreign Investment Review Board (FIRB) stopped China from buying more of NTU around 1-2 years ago, they tried to hide it from the regaulators and NTU by buying shares through a web of interelated off shore companies!!!

Then a few months ago, the NTU CEO started calling out to ASIC, FIRB and anyone that would listen...that his company was being taken over illegally by the Chinese. This was reported widely. He has also been publically stating that China is rigging the rare earth market.

The NTU management used every trick in the book, to keep pushing back the AGM, where he was likely to be voted out by the Chinese.


Anyway...the Aust Govt finally acted a few days ago. The Treasurer has give a compulsary Sell Down Order to the chinese investors!


So i thought....wow....here is a chance to buy some cheap rare earth shares in NTU. And the SP has gone up!!!

I hope ASIC are watching closely. This stinks big time!

I'm keeping my powder dry...and will watch over the next couple of months.


And then yesterday, it was announced that NTU had been hacked! Presumably by the Chinese.


Maybe Netflix have been buying shares....so they can control the ending of the story?



https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/iluka-boss-calls-out-china-s-infiltration-of-rare-earths-in-australia-20240507-p5fplq

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/crackdown-on-chinese-investors-a-cautionary-tale-20240603-p5jisr