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Added 12 months ago

A bit over a week ago Intelligent Investor posted a research writeup on Biome - titled "Biome's balancing act - This probiotic startup is enjoying strong demand, but it's an uphill battle from here"

It's behind their paywall but ended not with a "Buy", "Sell" or "Hold" rating but rather with a "We'll be watching Biome from the sidelines"

Some of what they covered in the writeup was discussed in their latest Intelligent Investor : Stock Take Podcast which is also available on Youtube

https://youtu.be/S_5DyF1aWdk?si=r37MB3m8Phu8zfMZ&t=1900

The Biome discussion starts at around 31:40

mikebrisy
Added 12 months ago

@Remorhaz I've just listened to the $BIO discussion.

It's a very balanced discussion, although Graham incorrectly corrected Gaurav, when Gaurav noted they'd just got their first own strain.

What I liked most about the discussion, was that all three were coming from a point of healthy scepticism, although fully informed about the Blackmores and $A2M stories - so they know what these businesses can become in the success case.

So, while I didn't learn anything new, I got a lot of value in hearing the perspectives.

I felt their characterisation of how "clinical evidence" is developed in this sector was a reasonable representation. This is 95% about brand (maybe I lean more towards 80%).

Bottom line: don't own so much that if it fails (and it might) that you feel stupid. That makes total sense to me. None of Gaurav, Graham nor John are buyers, but they see the case for holding.

I think that is a really important point. There's every chance that over the next few reporting periods $BIO continues to post strong revenue growth (>50%p.a.) and with its strong gross margin, it will in all likelihood soon blast through the inflection point and then start to post a few periods of healthy EPS growth. That will likely attract attention and drive the SP. However, continued success in the long term is not guaranteed, and the podcast did discuss some of the risks, particularly around supply terms and risk to long term margins.

I'll be happy to let this run with success. But I think the current position size is where I'll rest for a while. It will take a couple of years to prove whether they can get the same penetration in the UK and Canada as they have in Australia, as well as if the Australia accounts have the running room that BVN believes. If both are proven true, then it is worth further consideration.

Disc: Held in RL (3%) and SM


P.S. The whole podcast is well worth listening to, for $MIN, $GTK and $LOV. I thought we heard some of Gaurav at his best in discussing $LOV.

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Arizona
Added 12 months ago

Thanks @Remorhaz

I am a regular listener to “Stock Take”. I have listened to this whole podcast now and really enjoyed the first two thirds. The discussion around Gentrack v Hansen - love it. The chat around MIN and the AGM. The chat around LOV - great.

While I greatly appreciate an alternative view to my own and relish the opportunity to see a company through someone else's eyes, Graham doesnt seem to have dug very deep outside of the numbers on this one. Not his greatest work.  It would be good to read what he has actually written re BIO.

I felt there were a few points about the company he didn’t handle well, but in particular I was a little disappointed when Graham said: with great confidence: “at the moment the company does'nt have any proprietary formulations" I got the impression that Gaurav knew that they do, as he probably read the recent announcement:

Biome Australia's Managing Director and Founder, Blair Vega Norfolk commented:

"This is a major step forward for Biome in the growth and development of the business with the further ownership of probiotic intellectual property. This new strain, BMB18, is an incredible opportunity for long-term product innovation and diversification into new health areas. As a Biome owned asset we expect to create significant value for the business as we continue our journey in research and development into new areas with probiotic listed medicines"

Maybe I am being too harsh. I have really enjoyed Grahams work in the past his dive into Gentrack v Hansen previously, was great.

The general consensus at the end does'nt differ too much from my own thoughts, really - Worth a listen for sure.


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