Forum Topics BTI BTI Valuation uplift

Pinned straw:

Added 4 months ago

Good to see some valuation uplifts for a few of Bailador's holdings -- although the internal process behind these are not disclosed, it seems at least they are driven by improving fundamentals. And, as they highlight, "...there has never been a third party transaction in the history of the fund at a lower value than our holding value at the time, and that our average valuation uplift on realisation is 39%.."

So it seems reasonable to assume they are conservative in their assumptions.

Worth noting that ~half of their NTA is derived from cash and ASX market pricing, and only 24% of the NTA calculation relies on their own internal valuations.

They still have a $40m war chest.

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ArrowTrades
Added 4 months ago

Marking their own homework doesn't appear to be impressing the market all that much, only a modest SP bump.

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Strawman
Added 4 months ago

Should've used more aggressive assumptions ;)

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Wakem
Added 4 months ago

The school of Ian Olsen ...

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Bradbury
Added 4 months ago

I see the valuation increases as a positive even if there isn't much transparency on how the figures are derived. The issue is that the SiteMinder share price still is the main driver of NTA. The increases in Updoc and Mosh have basically been offset by SiteMinder and operating expenses.


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And unless there are any third-party transactions between now and mid 2025, the only movement will continue to be from SiteMinder.


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PeregrineCapital
Added 4 months ago

100% unimpressed by the marking of ones own homework. All it does for me as a shareholder is increase management fees.

"...there has never been a third party transaction in the history of the fund at a lower value than our holding value at the time, and that our average valuation uplift on realisation is 39%.."

This statement isn't as meaningful as it appears to be.


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Strawman
Added 4 months ago

Paul Wilson is chatting with us on the 28th, so we can ask for more "colour" around this @PeregrineCapital

I didn't want to defend things too much. In fact, given there's a good degree of push back from the community it does give me pause for thought.

It's only a small position for me, but maybe I need to be more hard nosed with this one...

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