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Added 2 months ago

Saw this in today’s Fin Review.

Fortescue’s Sinead Booth allows her colleagues to see everything in her diary

I am suggesting this not be looked at through a political lens, as anything to do with “climate” is a loaded subject, but this article jumped out at me.   

Fortescue executive Sinead Booth, Group Manager Decarbonisation Delivery tells us in the above BOSS Young Executives article what her favourite gadget is: “ I think mine is my Tesla. I got my Tesla last year. It’s that guilt-free driving.”

 

Sinead then goes on to explain to the reader: “We try and get away as much as we can on weekends so I knew that I wanted something that would get us as far as our favourite beach area, which is about a 2½-hour drive from Perth.”

 Does Sinead think you build a Tesla without any need for fossil fuels, or where the energy for her pleasant 2½-hour jaunt to the beach might come from?

 I can’t rule out the journalist is having a giant piss-take at Sinead’s expense. Or it could be all written in dead seriousness. I don’t know. But I couldn’t buy shares in Fortescue knowing this is the caliber of its executive ranks. 

 I know I will probably get buckets over this: “Scoonie you are nothing more than an out of touch old prick. Hell and damnation you uncaring bastard!”  

Bear77
Added 2 months ago

Good observations there @Scoonie - I returned from a week in WA yesterday evening - and did note that hiring a Tesla is one of the cheapest options for a hire car in WA, probably because of the distances between many of the towns and the lack of charging infrastructure in many parts of the state. When EV drivers DO find a charging station outside of the Perth Metro area, it may only have one or two charge points so you could be waiting a while behind other EV drivers. I have so far resisted the urge to hire and thrash a Tesla; We hired a Landcruiser 300 GXL Wagon this time, not because we wanted to go 4WD-ing, but because we had a LOT of luggage due to having a 7-month old baby with us, and all the gear that comes with that.

We have noticed that down in the South West, around Busselton, Dunsborough and Margaret River (all south of Perth), there are a fair few Teslas driving around, but not as many as I see at home in Adelaide. We did see a spot south of Margaret River where one was supposed to have caught fire and been abandoned. The road was scorched and the guard rail beside it was bent out of shape and severely scorched. Other than that, all the evidence had been removed from the scene.

Talking with one never-Tesla relative, it was clear he thought they were more carbon/energy intensive than ICE-cars because the batteries were part of the sub-frame and needed to be replaced around every 8 to 10 years, which in earlier model Teslas apparently meant you pretty-much had to replace the car when the battery lifecycle ended, and that was around every 8 years, as per the warranty. If the batteries could be changed out, owners were often quoted between US$20K and US$30K to get that done, despite Elon saying it should cost between US$5K and US$7K. [Source: https://ev-lectron.com/blogs/blog/how-long-does-a-tesla-battery-last#:~:text=The frequency of replacing a,miles, as per the warranty.]

Tesla owners clearly may have much more positive viewpoints and opinions, as Apple users have about Apple products, except for the ones who wish they'd never made the switch. But they're certainly kidding themselves and are unbelievably naive if they truly think that driving a Tesla is a carbon neutral option that allows "guilt-free" driving.

That said, I did enjoy guilt-free driving with our hired diesel Landcruiser around SW WA during the past week, not because it had a low carbon footprint, but because it was what we needed to get us and all of our gear where we needed to go, which did include a few beaches, and one of those stunning beaches could well be the same beach that FMG's Sinead Booth likes so much if she is heading south to get there.

Next week I'll be hiring a RAV4 in Tassie, again, suitable for our needs, smaller because the travelling group is significantly smaller, so not over-kill, but also not having to occy-strap stuff to the roof. I'm personally not a Tesla fan. I don't mind hybrid EVs, as long as I can still run them on petrol or diesel (or LPG) when there's no charging infrastructure available, but not totally electric vehicles. And I'd need one with some decent luggage space, and the Teslas that I'm seeing don't have that. They obviously suit some people however.

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ChrisW
Added 2 months ago

When it comes to accelerating transitions away from fossil fuels, I’m a big greenie I admit. Both at work where I push for major investment within a global corporate manufacturer, and at home. For transparency I also own some shares in a unlisted EV charging provider.

Each to their own on this one but I can’t see myself buying another ICE after owning a Tesla Model 3.

Purely economically it seems to make sense for me, I used the FBT investment to purchase at approx $5k discount and they’re only improving in price. I charge at home often on solar and have driven 60k km in the 1.6yrs I’ve owned it. It’s saved me an estimated 6.5k per year on servicing and fuel compared to the old ix35 I used to drive and I haven’t yet seen any performance depreciation. I guess time will tell if real depreciation pans out better/worse than an ICE over a decade.

My contacts in the EV car and charging space, who know a lot of the manufacturers, tell me that more and more data is suggesting that batteries will outlast the chassis. Time will tell whether this is BS but I rate my BS radar quite high and it aligns with a lot of anecdotal stories I’ve heard from longer term owners.

In short, after owning one I personally can’t see a future where EVs don’t eventually dominate, all the arguments I see against them now seem tired, debunked, overblown, or refer to very specific (and atypical) use cases. It’s just a question of how long the change takes.

The tech is good enough now for it to make economical sense for a growing portion of users, as long as you can handle the new habit of charging when you’re parked…

It’s also greener I reckon :) (source below)

Good on Sinead I say!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-27/comparing-electric-cars-and-petrol-cars/103746132?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=whatsapp

Disclosure - Not an Elon fanboy. Just a satisfied customer (so far).

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Bear77
Added 2 months ago

Good to hear direct from an owner @ChrisW - sounds like your car certainly suits your needs. Do you do many road trips away from capital cities? If so, do you find charging away from home at all problematic?

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ChrisW
Added 2 months ago

I live rural north of Newy and drive 2.5hrs once weekly to Sydney which uses about 50% of charge on a normal range model. I can charge at my workplace there for the day (which costs $7) or stop in for 20mins at a supercharger (while I grab a coffee, costs $15) to get home with plenty of charge left.

We have a roof pod and have loaded it up for a ski trip to Bright and a trip to Brisbane so far. The pod causes drag which reduces the efficiency but at most you charge every 2-3hrs for 30-40mins, and it’s been easy to find charging along the way using the cars inbuilt navigation and trip planning. I’ve had to wait for a spot twice which I admit was a pain. But in a weird way it added to the feeling of adventure with the fam, having to plan strategic stops and with a mindset to just stretch our legs and chill in an unfamiliar place for a while. The best surprise we had was a Tesla charger behind the big banana. With the theme park right there I’m surprised I could coerce the younguns to move on at all.

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