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Pinned straw:

Added a month ago

$NCK announced their 1H FY25 results this morning.

ASX Announcement

Their Highlights

ANZ Group

  • Revenue $222.5m, gross profit margin 64.4%.
  • Underlying profit after tax $36.0m versus October 2024 AGM guidance $30-33m.
  • Statutory profit after tax $34.1m.


UK

  • Revenue $28.6m, gross profit margin 45.1%
  • Underlying loss after tax $2.8m.
  • Application of AASB16 to the acquired UK property leases increased the UK loss after tax by $1.2m for the period. The adoption of AASB16 has no cash impact.
  • Statutory loss after tax $4.1m.


Group Balance Sheet

  • Cash and bank deposits $87.6m at 31 December 2024.
  • Interim dividend 30 cents per share fully franked.


Other Significant Points from the Presentation

As expected, the 1H ANZ sales were subdued, with the suply chain problems communicated earlier further eating into %GM. ANZ revenue was down on pcp, although undeyling profit came in well ahead of guidance.

UK is now into the transition, with the Fabb range being run down, and some sales disruption due to the conversion of stores from Fabb to Nick Scale.

The UK Nick Scali website is up and running (view it here: https://www.nickscali.co.uk/ )

Integration is proceeding, with $KCK processes and systems implemented, and $2m run rate of costs taken out.

UK performance was also ahead of guidance.

UK is still running the old distribution centre, which is on 3-month notice, pending identification of the new operation.

Despite the transition, the UK operation is already seeing an improved %GM off the old range, and $NCK are guiding to a %GM of 57%-59% for the NickScali range and stores. Bearing in mind Australia achieves 64%-65%, this is an encouraging start, as the %GM should increase over time as the store network grows and the business benefits from scale and supplt chain benefits.

Positively, there are early indications of a good product-market fit. The rebranded $NCK stores were the 3 top performing stores in January 2025 for written sales orders, only one of which had been in the Fabb top 5.

The target is to complete 8 further re-branded stores to Nick Scale by EOFY, with ongoing sales disruption due to store conversions.

Importantly, $NCK are already evaluating potential new store locations in the UK.

Outlook

There were a few questions on the surprising soft start to the year, with written sales orders down 8.5% in January 2025, although Anthony cautioned against reading much into this, pointing out that the sale week of the January Sale in Feruary was up 5%.

My Assessment

FY25 and 1H FY26 represent an important period of transition, during a time of sluggish sales in ANZ.

The early signs of a positive start to the UK are there, although there will be a drag on performance as the Fabb brand is transitioned out and stores closed for the $NCK uplift. There is also a change yet to come around identifying and implementing a new distribution centre, which brings some transition risk, and certainly some addition cost.

I retreated to the sidelines on the SP recovery before Xmas (considering the tranisition risks in the UK coming at the time of a slower ANZ period, added to news of supply chain problems). As it turns out, it would have done me no harm to have held on but that said, I don't see positive performance catalysts in 2H FY25.

This morning's SP response (SP up to $18.00 at time of writing!) indicates that the market is looking through the sluggish current period, and seeing the potential for what the UK can achieve for SP. That was always the risk of selling on relative strength ahead of the result. Never mind.

The $NCK SP tends to be reasonably volatile, and I'll be happy to get back onboard around $15.00-$15,50, should I be presented the opportunity. Otherwise, it is not a stock I have to own, so patience and discipline are required! I think FY26 and FY27 could be transformational, as UK starts to drive the group result, and monetary easing contributes to a better retail environment, so if I can get back on in the next 6-9 months at a reasonable price, then I will.

Overall, Anthony and team are doing a good job (and I am looking forward to my new armchair arriving in April .... I did my bit to help January written orders!)

Disc: Not Held

Solvetheriddle
Added a month ago

Mike has done a good job as always and I will not repeat here. i am surprised by the SP movement this morning, i was hoping for a fall on the very weak January numbers to add to my position. the negatives were the weak numbers in January and the slow store rollout in ANZ, mgt said there was a lack of sites and not an underlying desire to add stores, the big positive to me was the progress in the Uk with NCK looking to add stores already, that signifies that cautious management is confident enough to plan expansion, a very good sign. often these overseas moves either start well or not, then continue that trend. we shall see

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thunderhead
Added a month ago

I became a first-time Nick Scali customer recently too, with my new couch. It's a quality product.

Perhaps I should have sent the funds into NCK shares though :)

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Karmast
Added a month ago

Great summary as usual @mikebrisy

That said I personally find the big uptick in the share price today a real worry. It's disconnected from business performance for the last 12 months now and along with Dominos and a few others today, has me thinking we are in an increasingly irrational market.

EPS is down 35%, the dividend was cut 15% and yet the share price and the multiple is now at an all time high and the multiple is also around double what it usually averages. In my view this implies perfect execution and luck over the next couple of years for it to be justified. No delays or hiccups in the UK, ANZ sales growth to get back to double digit levels, costs/margins to stabilise rather than dropping further and store roll outs in ANZ to pick up again.

Could happen but there is no margin of safety at all now and it's a definite sit on the sidelines moment for me. Good luck to those still holding - it's a really good business but you need everything to go right for quite some time now...

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RogueTrader
Added a month ago

"I became a first-time Nick Scali customer recently too, with my new couch. It's a quality product."

Do you still have to wait months for delivery with Nick Scali? I'm reminded of the John Pinetti couch sketch: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o-K2baXurXs

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thunderhead
Added a month ago

Yes I did. 11 weeks or so.

Sort of makes sense because it is a bulky item, modular/customisable, and made-to-order.

P.S. Good delivery on the sketch :D

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Karmast I agree, Too rich for my blood.

That said, wish I had sold today and not 6 weeks ago!

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Parko5
Added a month ago

I would never normally post a news.com.au page. But this was super interesting. A history snapshot of some of the Australian failed retail.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/tragic-fall-of-onceloved-aussie-stores/image-gallery/0c3e9e80f1b6f5a0e27bca0683d17bf4

I remember a lot of these, thinking “wow what a great business” then shocked to see them go bust.

it would be a great exercise to see what the themes are for all their failures. Maybe a job for AI?


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PortfolioPlus
Added a month ago

Definitely a solid jolt to see them (failed retailers) all lined up like that…but in a sense, this follows the age old stats of the slim survival rates of small business. From my past business life I can tell you there is deep, genuine hurt (and loss of life) when a business is shuttered. I know of one major shopping centre commencement where there 9 suicides within the first 3 years of operation. Today that centre is one of the icons of the industry.

If one assumes that a dollar is never lost, merely transferred to others, who were the winners? I’d suggest the following

Frank Lowy and Westfield - they played a ruthless game and systematized the process to maximize profits. I cannot say that is wrong because of caveat emptor.

Numerous commercial REITS who adopted the Westfield business model

Existing businesses both public & private who swallowed or rebranded these failed businesses

Commercial fit out companies have had a field day

Retail entrepreneurs like Brett Blundy who have the smarts to reposition some of these failed businesses.

Various local, state and Federal governments who cherry picked on charges.

But I dare say someone will write a similar story to this in 50 years and well into the future.



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edgescape
Added a month ago

Been to Nick Scali a few times in the years before Covid shopping for a dining table

Never could find a dining table there I could quite like. Plus they seemed pretty desperate at that time constantly asking me what I want.

But I guess lounges though are more easier to sell than dining tables (or I'm just picky about the size, dimensions, colour, price and build). And this was quite some time ago

I haven't visited recently but maybe this time it is different.


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Aaronfzr
Added a month ago

Funny old game, isnt it? Ive always had a similar experience- slightly hassled by plentiful floor sales people, never quite found a lounge or dining set. Last time I visited (2 weeks ago) they had the same stock in the sale arrangement as 2 years prior... so the stock designs must be pretty well static.

The business model seems to be working though, even if they aren't selling to peeps like us!

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Strawman
Added a month ago

Nice write-up (as always) @mikebrisy

As you note, the market certainly seems to have liked the results. Shares are up 14% as I type. A new all time high!

Nothing like a beat to guidance to get the bulls excited. But the more important insight for me was the encouraging UK progress.

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Strawman Yeah, so far its pretty flawless execution.

It will be interesting to see what the analyst updates do, as SP was already at/slightly ahead of consensus.

The cynic in me says the PT will be upgraded, following the SP. But to do that you have to take a longer time horizon view than the analysts normally do.

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Strawman
Added a month ago

Funny you say that @mikebrisy -- was only last night talking about analysts' propensity to 'curve fit' their valuations. I suspect you're right.

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