Forum Topics SIQ SIQ Hit Bottom Yet?

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Added 4 weeks ago

5a4981d1ac4a5b75f7d92a652f299ee1cc10a6.jpegSmartgroup has been bouncing off a $7.60 support level for a while now. Each time it goes there I’ve added more shares. I can’t work out why it’s trading down here? There’s been nothing but good news for this business, its revenue and earnings are growing, it has a 30% ROE, moderate debt, it could yield close to 10% including the franking credits in FY24 and FY25 (after reinvesting 35% back into the business) and it’s directors have been adding shares over the last 12 months. The final dividend I expect will be over 30cps, fully franked, and is due in March. Smartgroup will announce its FY24 results on 26 Feb at 9.00am AEST. So, if there are any disappointments I won’t need to wait long.

A few days ago it won the Monash 3 + 2 year salary packaging contract (no contribution to 1H2025 earnings). It’s smart technology seems to be ahead of its competitors, and it is gaining business at its competitors expense (eg. McMillan Shakespeare MMS).

Bell likes the business and has a $10 PT on it (see previous straw). I’m not that enthusiastic, but I think the current share price is significantly under fair value.

One thing that could impact Smartgroup’s earnings is EV sales. They have peaked and have declined lately. However hybrid sales are increasing! Hopefully they have a finger in this salary packaging pie also.

Anyway, we will know the result and a better idea of the outlook in 15 days time. Fingers crossed!

Held IRL 6.4% by weight

Slideup
Added 4 weeks ago

@Rick I just had a quick look as your summary of SIQ piqued my curiosity. The thing that jumped out to me is that ROE doesn't really matter in this case as it is paying out almost all of its earnings as dividends. It also looks like earnings have kind of stagnated over the last 6 years with EPS of between 46-49c (apart from covid impact year) and dividends have been 0.42-63c over this period. Still a around 6% yield pre-franking. I see they also have a buyback going on. Have they run out of growth options?

This is a just a very quick look from me so I might be missing something obvious

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Rick
Added 4 weeks ago

Thanks for your reply @Slideup. You make some good points. Smartgroup’s NPAT was flat for about 5 years between 2018 and 2023, and during that time almost all its earnings were paid out as dividends. Two years ago, I posted a straw here titled “Cash cow struggling to grow.” I thought this summed up Smartgroup’s outlook during this period.

You are also correct in saying that if all earnings are paid out as dividends, your returns are limited to the fully franked dividend, and do not reflect the strong ROE.

My thesis at this point in time is based on a more optimistic future for Smartgroup. I am expecting 12-13% earnings growth for FY24 and a further 10% earnings growth in FY25. Statutory NPAT for 1H24 was $34.3 million (up 18% on pcp) which makes analyst forecasts of $70.4 million (53.5cps) for FY24 achievable, especially when you consider the addition of the South Australian government contract which did not contribute to earnings in the first half. This contract, a win from McMillan Shakespeare, added 36,500 salary packaging customers to the June total of 402,000. That’s a significant 9% increase. Just recently Smartgroup also picked up the Monash contract which should start contributing to earnings in 2H25. So I think double digit earnings growth over the next few years is feasible.

Providing Smartgroup doesn’t lose any major contracts I expect financial performance, including NPAT, ROE and dividends to improve. This should result in a 10% total yield on the current share price and some share price appreciation. Of course my whole thesis hinges on double digit earnings growth. Only time will tell!

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Longpar5
Added 4 weeks ago

Good posts guys, do you think maybe there's a pre-election cloud over the business? Salary sacrifice has been a political football in the past and fear of a radical policy change, whether rational or not, might be keeping a few away, just a thought. Not a business I've looked into before but inspired enough to take a look now.

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Rick
Added 4 weeks ago

Thanks @Longpar5. I think salary sacrifice policy is the dark cloud that hangs over businesses like Smartgroup all the time, and yes upcoming elections seem to have a dampening affect on the share price. I think these companies are always on a slight discount because of that risk. If you choose to take them on, I think position size is important. I think I’ve nearly reached the limit on the position size I’m comfortable with at around 6.4%.

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