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Added 2 months ago
Justification

Updating my pricing on this one following the recent FY update.

Key updates from the slide deck and investor call.

  • TTV $453.4m down 6.4% YOY which is mainly from a 15% reduction in lottery retailing.
  • NPAT of $19.1m down 9.3%
  • Slight decrease in active players to 1036 (down 5% on H2) but still 100 more than 2024.
  • SAAS TTV up but revenue down 5.3% to 13.3m, however the newer agreements signed are starting to show an upwards trend in the % rate applied.
  • Free cash flow down 63.6% to 11.6m due to subdued lottery and trade payable timings.
  • Managed services TTV down 3.8% with EBITDA down 16% (in line with expectations)
  • Canadian business revenue down 19% following contract losses and updates from the previous quarter.
  • Dividend of 24c announced (high end of their distribution range).
  • H2 numbers looking much higher with the high volume of jackpots this year.
  • Diluted EPS of 28.35c (down from 31.88 last FY) based on 340k less shares than the previous year.


The call on this one was quite informative as Jumbo have provided some good information. Learning from their recent acquisitions and market growth, they are looking to focus more on B2Customer space as this allows them to better scale with the solutions they have.

Saturday lotto price increases will be coming in May 2025, and JIN are looking to increase their price over and above by 5c, which is expected to deliver contribute an additional revenue of $300k per annum. This is likely to be the same when Powerball changes in 2026.

Once the pricing is updated, the premium above the regular TLC page is now moving to approximately 20%, which is partially offset by the daily winners giveaways. Will be monitoring the active user count, especially with the current cost of living crunch.

Marketing is being targeted to bigger jackpots, and focussed the new cost per lead of 29.49 also incorporates the cost of returning customers coming back to buy tickets which aren't classified as a new lead, and the significant reduction in new players (down to 81,200)

Overall

The sell down of this one hurts but I'm confident with the mean reversion nature of lottery retailing + price increases will get the NPAT fairly close to where things were last year.

Hoping that they can find some good acquisition opportunities in the B2C space, which will help them to increase geographical reach.

They are continuing to stand up new customers in the SAAS space, and with the renewals of Endeavour and Deaf lottery my thesis of growth opportunities in this space has not yet been busted.

Will continue to monitor the free cash flow situation as the continued trend could ultimately lead to more dilution/debt for any future acquisitions.

If the continued jackpots continue, I think this one sits somewhere between the $12 and $13.5 range. The expected PE is between 17- 19 for now which is well below the historic average of mid-high 20s and reflects the current growth opportunities.

Disc: Held IRL and SM

Slides

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SudMav
Added 2 months ago

After my review yesterday I thought I would put the numbers through the McNiven formula and revisit some of my old notes on the company to see where this one landed.

Doing some reverse engineering and using NPAT circa $40m, expected dividend of 26c for final year and expected ROE of 33% (which is at the lower end of the analyst target range of 34-37) the current share price equates to a return of 9.4% and further justified my price target around $12.50 for JIN.

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Karmast
Added 2 months ago

Good summary of the earnings result and call @SudMav

I thought Mike and Jatin were frank, buttoned up and realistic about the current state of play and also the sensible, proactive things they are working on (like expanding their B2C options globally) to maximise the chances of future success.

It highlights how concentrated they still are on Aussie lotteries and why the ongoing diversification is a good thing.

It will be interesting to see if they resume the share buybacks after Fridays share price whacking. They hadn’t been buying back since early December, so this will be a sign on whether they see value again at the current valuation.

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SudMav
Added 2 months ago

Thanks @Karmast - Yeah to be honest last year was abnormally good with the 200m Powerball, but the growth compared to FY 23 is still pretty great from a revenue perspective

It wouldn’t surprise me if there was a blackout period while the reporting was being prepared and I’m confident they will restart the buyback

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Karmast
Added 2 months ago

And buybacks have begun again today. Make your own mind up on that but it does indicate Mike and the Board see more value in their own shares than deploying the surplus cash in other ways as at Feb 2025.

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SudMav
Added 3 weeks ago

I have slightly added to my position IRL on JIN at the current price. Whilst I'm surprised that management haven't bought back more at the current prices, Im guessing that they might have another acquisition on the cards in the coming months.

Either way, there has been an increasing number of jackpots over $15 mil this half, and another 70m ozlotto this coming Tuesday, which is driving up TLC the past few days but surprisingly JIN has not had the same love.

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