Forum Topics IPG IPG 1H FY25 Results

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Added 2 months ago

Electrical distribution and automation supplier $IPG announced their 1H Results this morning.

I've provided a full summary of the investor call this morning later in this straw. However, it is important to recognise that in this 1H result we have the first full inclusion of the major CMI acquisition, which had been absent from the PCP. And so, I want to focus on just one slide - probably the least flattering of the entire presentation. The pro forma comparison, which lets us see how the actual operating businesses performed.

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So essentially, revenue and gross margin just inched ahead. And profit fell back, with management explanation that this is due to 1) CMI’s lower-margin impact, 2) shift to larger, lower-margin projects, 3) higher operating costs to support future growth, and 4) commercial construction weakness. Reading my summary below, you get a very different view of the business, which is why when M&A is at play, it is vital to look at the pro forma picture.

The commercial environment is tough, and CEO Michael Sainsbury reportdc that the result shows that $IPG is gaining market share.

He said:

" ... there are a number of our competitors that are reporting 8% and 10% and 15% revenue degradation as well because of the market conditions. So I think we've done better than the market. I certainly feel as though we've taken some share in these tough conditions, which will hold us in really good stead when the market does pick up again that you've secured that business and you move into more buoyant market with more share."

(I need to dig into some of this.)

Overall, the market responded positively to the result on the day with SP +4% on the day, but yet to claw back all the losses when it issued the underwhelming guidance at the AGM. Today's result just beat 1H guidance for EBITDA and EBIT.

Increasing the dividend by +40%, with the payout at 50% is a good result. The balance sheet is strong and operating cashflow was good. I think these helped encourage the market response.


My Overall Takeaway

Overall, I think the result is OK. It represents a starting point for the enlarged group and, over the next year, we should start to see business efficiencies come through, as well as revenue synergies between the individual business units.

Management have said a lot about each of the business units over the last year, and so I am happy to see how much of this pans out over the year ahead. I am still getting to know the business, management, and the sector. For today, I am content to stick with my valuation of $5.00 ($4.00 - $6.00) from the AGM.

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Full Summary of the Investor Call and Presentation

Overall

IPD Group delivered record revenue and profit growth in 1H FY25, exceeding guidance. Strong cash generation, debt reduction, and a record order backlog provide confidence for sustained performance in 2H FY25. While commercial construction remains weak, IPD is gaining market share, expanding into data centers, renewables, and EV infrastructure. Management remains optimistic about continued growth, supported by price increases, acquisitions, and product diversification.

1) Key Results Headlines (Comparison to 1H FY24)

  • Revenue: A$176.9 million, up 46.6% from A$120.7 million.
  • EBITDA: A$23.6 million, up 46.6%.
  • EBIT: A$20.2 million, up 47.4%.
  • Net Profit After Tax (NPAT): A$13.3 million, up 40.0%.
  • Earnings per Share (EPS): A$0.129, up 19.4%.
  • Operating Free Cash Flow: A$25.3 million, up from A$10.1 million, reflecting strong cash conversion (107.6%).
  • Net Debt: A$2.2 million, a substantial reduction from A$8.8 million at June 30, 2024.
  • Order Backlog: A$92.7 million, up 49%, ensuring strong revenue visibility.
  • Interim Dividend: A$0.064 per share, up 39.1%, with a 50% payout ratio.

(Yeah - so, now you understand why I wanted to highlight the pro forma page!)

2) Operational Highlights by Sector

  • Data Centers:
  • Revenue from data centers grew 25% YoY, now representing 15% of total revenue.
  • Strong order book with Amazon and NEXTDC data center projects.
  • EV Charging & Public Transport Electrification:
  • Continued expansion in EV infrastructure projects via Addelec Power Services.
  • Notable wins include Perth Transit Authority ($10.9 million project pipeline) and NRMA (A$3.5 million opportunities).
  • NSW Kingsgrove Bus Depot project officially commenced, with revenue expected in 2H FY25.
  • Commercial Construction & Infrastructure:
  • Remains largest revenue contributor, though facing headwinds in broader market.
  • Successfully expanding into water & wastewater, contributing 13% of total revenue.
  • Industrial & Mining:
  • Hazardous area electrical equipment sales grew significantly via EX Engineering.
  • Secured major contracts in oil & gas.
  • Wholesale & Trade Sales:
  • Outperformed market trends, gaining share from competitors despite construction slowdown.
  • CMI Operations showed weakness in New South Wales and Victoria due to commercial construction softness but gained traction in WA and export markets.


3) Cash Flow Highlights

  • Net Operating Cash Flow: A$25.3 million, up over 100%, reflecting strong conversion.
  • Net Investing Cash Flow: -A$4.5 million, primarily due to capital expenditure and acquisitions.
  • Net Financing Cash Flow: -A$2.2 million, driven by debt repayments.
  • Cash Balance (End of Period): A$28.9 million.
  • Debt Reduction: A$10 million in borrowings repaid post-half-year, reducing core debt by ~33%.


4) Balance Sheet

  • Total Net Assets: A$158.1 million, strengthening the group's financial position.
  • Net Debt: A$2.2 million, down from A$8.8 million.
  • Inventory: Increased slightly by A$1.2 million, reflecting demand growth.
  • Dividend: A$0.064 per share, fully franked (payout ratio: 50%). Increased by 40,


5) Industry Outlook & Competitive Landscape

  • Market Conditions:
  • Commercial construction remains challenging, but IPD is outperforming competitors.
  • Interest rate cuts may boost sector activity in the next 6-12 months.
  • Growing demand for data centers, renewable energy, and EV infrastructure supports future growth.
  • Competitive Positioning:
  • Taking market share in high-margin trade business, outperforming ASX-listed peers.
  • Expanding ABB product range but not exclusively reliant on ABB.
  • IPD currently only captures ~20% of the electrical contractor market, indicating significant growth potential.


6) Summary of Q&A with Analysts

  • Order Backlog Conversion:
  • Current backlog (~A$93M) represents 3-4 months of work, supporting 2H FY25 revenue.
  • Some Amazon orders were pulled forward into 1H FY25, but pipeline remains strong.
  • Market Share & Expansion Strategy:
  • ABB partnership still has growth runway, but IPD is not limited to ABB products.
  • Opportunity to expand into other electrical contractor product categories (beyond current 20% penetration).
  • Daily Trade Business & Market Conditions:
  • IPD has outperformed competitors, gaining share in a weak construction market.
  • CEO expects the market has bottomed out, with gradual recovery over the next 6-12 months.
  • Price Increases & Margins:
  • No supplier price increases for 12 months, but IPD to implement a 3-4% price rise in March 2025.
  • Due to contract structures, only ~50% of this price increase will flow through in 2H FY25.


Disc: Held in RL and SM


Shapeshifter
Added 2 months ago

Excellent summary as always @mikebrisy

Just on the competitive positioning and growth opportunity my understanding of what Michael Sainsbury said on the call was that when a new site is built the electrical contractor is given the ability to deliver the complete electrical package for that site and IPD are currently selling about 20% of that total electrical package. For example when NEXTDC have a new data center bulid IPD group may win about 20% of the total work from the electrical contractor for that job. Michael was suggesting that there is an opportunity for IPD to increase that amount of work they are winning either "organically or inorganically" and "we have a really strong relationship with those contractors and what we can bring to market that can add value to those guys".

Michael they said "so 10% market share with what we've got" which I assume means an overall 10% market share. I found this confusing and Michael has a tendency to a word salad when free form talking.

My decoding of this was IPD have a 10% market share. They are winning about 20% of each new build electrical contract they are involved in. IPD see a "massive" growth opportunity here.

Please let me know if I'm completely off beam here.

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mikebrisy
Added 2 months ago

@Shapeshifter I agree it is less than clear.

I think what he is saying is that they currently are getting the opportunity to supply to 10% of buildings (where he defined "building" very broadly to include projects in both the commercial and industrial sectors).

And for each of those "wins", they are supplying 20% of the electrical contractor's scope as supplier to the electrical contractor.

So if 100% of the "buildings electrical scope" is everything electrically related to those "buildings" then he is saying they are getting 20% x 10% = 2% of the total market.

The growth drivers are therefore: 1) supply more than 20% of the scopes they win and 2) win more than 10% of the scopes.

As some point, it might be worth doing some independent market sizing, but I probably won't both because whether they are currently 1% or 4%, the point he is making is that they see a lot of opportunity within the existing market size. And that partly explains the acquistion strategy. For example, each of the acquisitions has brought new equipment lines and distributorships, and the service acquisitions have brought the ability to take on design scopes.

Of course, the third growth driver is growth of the overall market size: more intelligent buildings, more electrical heating/cooling (less gas), EV-ready builds.

So, overall it makes sense.

Like you, I'm not 100% sure I got the right end of the stick here. (I'm glad I'm not the only one battling the word salad!)

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