Forum Topics BOT BOT "Special Report" The Australia

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Added a month ago

The link below is to an "article" in The Australian - essentially paid advertising - not uncommon. Based off the Stockhead video posted earlier.

BOT are going hard at this in the last couple of days.

Is this a flag of some description for anyone?

Or is this simply part of the marketing of a company in BOT's current position? ASX300 inclusion, major sales launch etc.

@mikebrisy I know you said that they are acting just as you would expect them to. Does that include this style of "marketing"?

If all is going to plan, surely the numbers will do all the talking, when they arrive. Or does it all require a little song and dance to prep the market?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/stockhead/content/botanix-climbs-into-asx-300-club-strengthening-its-global-dermatology-ambitions/news-story/44e58c03cdf254d00d66749d4d7911c8

mikebrisy
Added a month ago

Yeah, well, now that they are in the ASX-300 they might not have to spend so much on marketing with the likes of Stockhead.

Actually, I do not have an informed view on the benefits or otherwise of spending $ marketing to investors. Seems a bit of a waste to me, but maybe I’m wrong.

My only IR experience is in big cap land, where the budget was spent on the corporate jet getting key executives to meetings with the big institutions in London, New York etc., which I also thought was wasteful at the time.

Cynically (again from experience) I have wondered if CEOs , CFOs and IR people like doing it because they enjoy the “life style” aspects of jetting around and being wined and dined (oh, some of the wines I have enjoyed on the IR account!!) But actually, while it’s fun the first couple of roadshows, it gets to be a drag over time.

My bias is always to let the results speak for themselves. Enough investors are hungry enough to make money and find good companies that they’ll do the digging. So why spend any money on it!

After all, @Strawman doesn’t charge for his meetings? (Or does he?)

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Schwerms
Added a month ago

It's a small fee payable only in Bitcoin

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Strawman
Added a month ago

I've had plenty of people tell me I'm missing a trick by not charging CEOs for "access" to our community @mikebrisy , but it changes the incentives too much.

Not that I'm hard on guests, but if they paid we'd essentially just be part of the Investor Relations team with a focus on talking up the positives to help pump the price.

No thanks.

Aside from a tiny referral fee we get from Sharesight for anyone who uses our discount code, our revenue is entirely from membership fees. Which keeps the focus exactly where it needs to be.

Honestly, I see it as a red flag if a company has any sizeable IR apparatus. As you say, let the results speak for themselves!

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rh8178
Added a month ago

Bang on @Strawman I often see broker reports that you get to the fineprint and they advise they were paid by the company for their view. I'm usually pretty dismissive of such reports - it's big in mining/small cap land and there's a few brokers that do it. I think you'd devalue this site if companies paid for access - I come here for a more independent view and that's worth a lot to me and I'm sure other members.

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Strawman such a relief to hear that! I just watched the Stockhead video, and without intending to be rude to the interviewer, it was clear their questions were scripted by Howie (or his sidekick). Either that, or they were lurking on our Forum discussion here yesterday about the refill process! (C'mon Matt or Howie or Stockhead, reveal your Strawman handles!)

But seriously ...

@Arizona @Schwerms @Ipsum video answered (implied but pretty clear to me) the question about the process of refill. As @Ipsum uncovered, the patient will get a text notification that the refill is about to be sent. If they have stopped using it, they'll probably click STOP or EDIT. Which does mean that there will be some flow of product into the market that gets paid for but never used (like all drugs!) With such a process, it would reasonable to get 8-10 refills a year knowing that a proportion of paitents find little benefit and/or don't like the side effects and will give up, and will terminate their refill program.

And that makes the big difference between the US and Japan (as other have noted here). In Japan consumption seems to be highly seasonal around the summer months, and patients typically get a script with one refill, so staying on the product requires much more inconvenience,. i.e., trips to the Doctor.

A trip to the Dr is a "cost" - both time and money. We know the benefits of SOFDRA are partial and variable, so in the US if the e-platform and 12-refills lowers the "total cost" to the patient, they will be more likely to stay on the drug, as the cost-benefit equation gets nudged towards continuation.

Of course the value in the US is so much greater because SOFRDA's all-in cost for 30-days in 10x the cost of 30-days on ECCLOCK in Japan. Yes, that's right 10X. (No wonder Trump and RJK vent so much about Americans getting ripped off! I'm very happy for Trump to stay focused on steel tariffs.))

So, if for each patient onboarded, 8 to 10 out of 12 refills actaully happen, that would be an astounding commercial success.

I'll continue the rest of my insights from the recent videos on the other Forum ("Commercial Update") when I've completed my analysis... sooner or later. But I am trying to get my eye in for the first sales report in April.

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