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Pinned straw:

Added one year ago

I'm going to do my best to ignore the Orange Man and Operation Tariffs today and thought the best way was to try and find some new nanocap ideas for the Strawman community.

Anyone who invests or casts an eye over the nanocap (<$50m market cap) space doesn't need to be told how brutal the sector has been for a few years now. While there is a sector wide malaise, the fact is most companies in the space aren't worthy of an investment dollar and the current market conditions are only quickening an inevitable death.

That said, there are always decent businesses that get overlooked. I recently wrote about Racing and Sports (RTH) here which I think is a nanocap who reported an exceptionally strong 1H25 result that quickly got ignored due to macro conditions. Another one in a similar position that I have nibbled away at and now have a small position in is Motio (MXO).

MXO has a rocky operating history (nanocap veterans will remember it as the old XTD), but the business as it exists today effectively began in 2019 with the appointment of Adam Cadwallader as CEO who brought with him nearly two decades of experience in the out of home advertising space. Prior to the appointment as MXO CEO he led oOh!media's (OML) "place based" media division, which is a fancy way of saying digital advertisements in locations where people are more likely to spend a longer period of time to be engaged, rather than traditional billboards which capture passing traffic.

It was this experience Adam leveraged, purchasing four different operating assets over the next few years for roughly $6m. These purchases (including two assets from OML that Adam was familiar with) gives MXO digital screens in health centres, sports venues, cafes and bars. They currently operate over 1500 screens in 1000 locations around the country and if you have ever sat in a doctor's office that has a television looping information and the occasional advertisement then you have a pretty good idea what the product is.

But while the acquisitions gave MXO an immediate footprint, work had to be done. Some assets were aged and needed refreshing, some customer relationships had been ignored and needed re-engaging and MXO themselves had to build up the internal team to target advertising customers and convince them of the benefits of using their place based media channels.

That work took a few years but it was at the FY24 result where the tone from the business changed and the strategy for FY25 shifted:

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With the "ideal network size", growth would come from optimising and re-pricing customer campaigns and driving revenue per location which has grown steadily:

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The momentum of the business has also been captured through continued upgrades to FY25 guidance, though there is some opaqueness we have to work through as the business recently spun out a non-core asset that needs to be pro-forma'd out. My best efforts to do that sees a guidance timeline that looks like this:

10 May 2024 - FY25 revenue $7.5-7.9m, cash EBITDA $800k

18 Sep 2024 - FY25 revenue $7.9-8.3m, cash EBITDA $800k

14 Nov 2024 - FY25 revenue $8.2-8.4m, cash EBITDA $1m

26 Feb 2025 - FY25 revenue $8.4-8.8m, cash EBITDA $1.2m

The non-core asset that has been spun out was Spawtz, which despite the name is not a pets focused recreational activity platform but a piece of software used by indoor sports centres to run casual leagues. It does player registration, team management, accept payments, etc. Spawtz came as part of the acquisition with digital screens in indoor sports centres and while it has been steady since acquisition, it hasn't really grown or been able to embed itself beyond the sports niche.

The spin out was to existing MXO management who were running the segment for $1.35m cash and includes five employees (including management). Importantly, MXO still own the digital screens, it is only the software part of the business that is being sold.

The combination of the Spawtz sale and strong cash generation in 1H25 has really cleaned up the balance sheet and made an investment far more palatable. The spectre of a potential capital raise has been removed as at the FY24 result the business had $1m cash and $2.2m debt as a result of vendor financing from OML to purchase cafe and bar assets.

Fast forward six months though and MXO has pro forma $3.5m cash in the bank with $2m debt, not only clearing up any concerns but giving them flexibility for more bolt on acquisitions of digital screen assets.

I've alluded to the strength of the 1H25 result a few times but to dig deeper revenue grew 44% to $5.3m while the company's preferred reporting metric of "cash EBITDA" grew 839% to $1m. Personally I would add back a few items to that reporting metric, primarily the interest bill which until debt is paid off is a real cost and also the cash cost of re-investment back into the business. Doing that I get "cash PBT" of $680k:

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The discrepancy between cash PBT and reported is because cash re-investment is significantly lower than historical depreciation and amortisation. The main contributor is acquired customer contract rights and funky share based compensation accounting, but also with an ideal network size the historical depreciation of digital screens (over seven years) isn't being matched with the up-front rollout of new ones:

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This is creating a set-up I love in nanocaps; where the reported numbers of the business are not reflective of the underlying quality or growth of the business. A scan of the profit/loss statement says MXO is a growing business but still unprofitable (-$161k) while a scan of the cashflow statement says the opposite, showing a business that generated $1.3m free cashflow in the half. Admittedly with the benefit of working capital movements but let's not let that get in the way of a good story!

So where are we today? At the time of writing the market cap is $7.5m (cue the collective grimace from my mid/large cap brethren) with $3.5m cash and $2m debt. The business did $680k operating profit in the 1H, based on FY25 guidance they appear very conservative. The history of guidance upgrades supports that view, but it could also be a general uncertainty with macroeconomic conditions and the upcoming Federal election given the cyclicality of advertising spending.

But generally speaking the second half is the seasonally stronger one for MXO:

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Despite that, given the general uncertainty and the strength of the 1H25 result I am modelling 2H25 with flat revenue (which comes out slightly above current management guidance) and with modest cost inflation and no Spawtz contribution for the final three months of the year I have my preferred cash PBT metric forecast to slightly decline back to $600k (again, slightly above current management guidance).

$6m EV with the business potentially doing $1.2m operating earnings is just 5x, and with the spectre of a capital raise behind them I think MXO deserves higher. That said there are plenty of reasons for the market to be sceptical. It's small with an ugly operating history. Earnings will be cyclical, and maybe I am extrapolating a cyclical high in 1H25. Growth per location can only be pushed so far and unless MXO can find good acquisition targets growth will be hard to come by.

But at the end of the day I think it looks very cheap and it's an example of the sorts of opportunities that can be found deep in the murky depths of nanocaps. Definitely not for everyone but for those with a stronger stomach it may be worth a look!

DrPete
Added a month ago

Motio delivered a trading update last week. Big picture, there were no great surprises. I came away perhaps a tad less bullish, but I still estimate a healthy ROI.

Here's their presentation: https://announcements.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20260508/pdf/06zd1nvr98b0sv.pdf

Below I've copied the notes I took during the presentation, as well as Chat's take. I'll separately tweak my valuation on SM, down just a tad.

Pete's notes:

  • Notes taken during presentation:
  • “Forward revenue” (seems to refer to contracted future revenue) guidance, excl discontinued Go operations, 13% higher than same time last year, but forward for Q4 only about 5% higher.
  • Still around $4m in bank.
  • Revenue return on screen payback in 1 year; revenue per screen $8k, screen cost typically $5k. Currently focused on Health rollout where confident of 1-year return.
  • Adonix (new Motio Drive division) just advertise via taxis, not Uber.
  • Adam: Historically Q4 tends to be a good Q because cold/flu season, good period for cafes, high mid-year sports
  • Revenue per screen: When we started 5 years ago, $2-3k, 18 mths ago hit $6k per location, now $8k.
  • My rough estimate, revenue is tracking for perhaps $8.8m, which will be an absolute decline of 2%, and 8% increase excl Go. Tracking between my previously published bull and bear cases for FY26. 
  • Pete: If maintain rev per screen and hit current guidance for rollout, revenue “run rate” will be $8.9m at end of FY26
  • Said location rollout on track, but since last update, both Feb and Mar were well down, Apr met goal, and May-Jun unchanged forecast. So forecast for H2 is now around 130 compared to 175 guidance (in CEO letter; although 150-175 in presentation) given in Feb (although oddly that guidance included 10 new screens in Dec). 130 new screens for H2 would be a 13% increase, a big increase for half a year
  •  “Screen” and “location” seem to be used interchangeably. 
  • Good:
  • They report revenue per screen as now $8159, well above costs around $5k, and up from $6k 18 mths ago and $3k 5 yrs ago
  • Confident of 1-yr payback for new screens; IF that’s the case then profit should increase independently of pace of rollout
  • Screen rollout is rapid, roughly 13% increase in half a year
  • No debt and cash $4m
  • Bad:
  • Tone was overly promotional given the substance, and headline content was selective, eg “forward revenue 13% higher” but only 5% higher for Q4, “record sales for last 10 weeks” but overall growth still likely to decline for year in absolute terms and grow only single digits for the year excl Go, “screen rollout on track” but while Apr met goal both Feb and Mar were well below guidance, “strong Q3 result vs pcp” but Q3FY25 was a poor quarter
  • Gave vague positive answer without details when asked about expectations for profitability after expanded leadership team
  • There appears to be negligible long term contracted revenue given “forward revenue” diminishes greatly after Q1FY27
  • Didn’t show in presentation but stated cash as $4m suggesting no FCF so far in H2 (was $4.0m end H1)
  • Overall, revenue tracking middle of my bull and bear cases, NPAT near bull case. If I were to adjust my valuation now, it would marginally decline because I’d keep my bear case unchanged but slightly revise down rev growth assumptions in my bull case. My estimated ROI would drop from 23% pa to 19% pa. 


Chat's take:

The update is incrementally positive on screen economics and balance sheet strength, but not strong enough to offset the softer-than-hyped revenue trajectory. I’d come out in a similar place to you: not thesis-breaking, probably still investable if your prior valuation allowed enough margin, but I’d lower the bull-case growth slope slightly and put a bigger “show me” flag around FY27 revenue conversion from the rollout.

1. The headline message was stronger than the underlying numbers

The presentation is framed very confidently: “record highs”, “exceptional” activity, “materially stronger platform”, “record forward revenue”, “scalable growth”, “operational leverage”, and “future cash flow generation” are all prominent phrases. Motio says sales activity has hit record highs, closed-won activity is at record highs, forward revenue has strengthened, and Revenue Per Location is now $8,159

But I agree with your caution. The most useful figure is not “forward revenue +13% excluding Go” in isolation. It is the composition and timing of that forward revenue. Page 22 shows FY26 forwards of $3.181m versus FY25 forwards of $2.817m, which supports the +13% headline, but the bars also visually suggest most visibility is near-term and fades quickly into later periods. 

So my translation would be:

Forward bookings are better than last year, but this is not yet evidence of a long-duration contracted revenue base.

That matters because one way to justify a higher multiple would be if Motio had recurring / contracted / highly visible revenue. This update does not really establish that. It shows momentum, not necessarily durability.

2. I agree the tone was promotional relative to substance

I would not say the update was misleading, but it was certainly selective and salesy.

Examples:

Motio says “Q4 tracking to exceed our record quarter achieved (Q4 FY25)” and that it is “on track to meet Q4 revenue targets”, which sounds strong. But if FY26 group revenue is still tracking to an absolute decline because of the loss of Go, and only single-digit growth excluding Go, then the deck is leaning hard into the most flattering version of the story.

Likewise, the Q3 comparison is presented as a “strong Quarter 3 comparative result on PCP”, but that only tells us so much if the prior comparative was weak. Your note that Q3 FY25 was a poor quarter is important because it stops the “strong PCP” language from becoming too persuasive.

I’d classify this as a yellow flag on communication quality, not a red flag on the business. It suggests management is enthusiastic and shareholder-promotional, which is common in microcaps, but you need to keep doing exactly what you’re doing: translate every upbeat phrase back into actual revenue, EBITDA, cash and per-share value.

3. The screen economics are the genuinely interesting part

The strongest part of the update is your note on screen payback. The deck itself supports the direction of travel by disclosing Revenue Per Location of $8,159. If the company is right that a screen typically costs around $5k, and if RPL is now over $8k, then the rollout economics may be genuinely attractive.

That said, I’d be careful with the payback logic. “Revenue per screen/location exceeds screen cost” does not automatically mean one-year payback, because payback depends on gross margin, installation costs, maintenance, sales commission, venue economics, content costs, network operations and incremental overhead. In older material, Motio has emphasised high gross margins and operating leverage, but the correct question is still:

What is the incremental contribution margin of a mature new Health screen after all directly attributable costs?

If the answer is genuinely high, the Health rollout can create value even if total FY26 revenue growth looks modest. If the answer is flattered by using revenue rather than contribution profit, the one-year payback claim is less powerful.

So I’d put this in the “good, but needs proof” bucket.

4. The rollout update is positive, but your criticism is fair

The deck shows total Motio locations moving from 954 in Dec-25 to a forecast 1,057 by Jun-26, plus 38 forecast additions in Jun-26, which appears to take the June endpoint to around 1,095 total locations if the forecast additions are included. The page labels additions as actuals for Jan-Apr and forecasts for May-Jun: 11A, 10A, 5A, 17A, 25F, 38F

Your point is right: “on track” is technically plausible if they can hit the May/June forecast, but the cadence is uneven. February and March look well below the earlier implied pace, April improved, and the forecast relies on acceleration into May/June.

The key issue is not whether they get to exactly 130, 150, or 175 new locations in a half. It is whether revenue from those locations ramps in a predictable way. The deck says there is “early traction with new locations” and “revenue starting to flow to FY27”, which is helpful but vague. 

For valuation, I’d probably avoid giving them full FY27 credit until they show the added Health inventory converting into revenue at or near the current RPL.

5. Cash position: strong, but not yet a cash-flow proof point

Your cash observation is important. The deck repeatedly talks about the balance sheet being ready for future growth and cash-flow generation, and says the business is shifting from platform-building to operational leverage and scalable growth. 

But if cash is still about $4m, similar to H1, then it does not yet prove H2 free cash flow. There could be timing effects, working capital, rollout capex, hiring, or acquisition/network investment, but the deck does not provide enough detail to separate those.

So I’d phrase it this way:

Balance sheet risk has reduced, but cash-flow conversion remains a monitoring item.

That matters because Motio’s valuation case increasingly depends on the company demonstrating that revenue growth converts into statutory profit and free cash flow, not just “Cash EBITDA” or presentation-level operating leverage.

6. Leadership expansion is a real cost/margin question

The deck highlights the leadership team: Justin Kingston as COO, Jacqui Smith as Financial Controller, Gordon D’Mello as Product & Marketing Director, and Christian Tyson as National Sales Director. 

That is potentially positive — more senior media talent may help professionalise sales and execution. But your concern is right: an expanded leadership team raises the fixed cost base. If management gives only a vague answer on profitability after hiring, that weakens the operating leverage claim.

The central question becomes:

Has Motio stepped up fixed costs ahead of growth, or has it added cost faster than revenue?

That is probably the most important FY27 question after revenue conversion from the Health rollout.

7. I’d slightly downgrade the bull case, similar to you

Your proposed valuation reaction feels sensible:

  • Bear case unchanged: because the update does not remove cyclicality, execution risk, promotional comms risk, or uncertainty around true FCF.
  • Bull case trimmed: because FY26 revenue tracking appears less explosive than the tone implies, and because rollout timing/revenue conversion has not yet been fully proven.
  • Margin case perhaps still okay: if RPL and screen economics are real, the business can still compound profitably from here.

A drop in your estimated ROI from 23% p.a. to 19% p.a. sounds directionally right. That still clears your 15% hurdle, but with less fat. Given your portfolio cap and your emphasis on conviction, I’d treat 19% as “worth continued work / possibly hold or small position” rather than “pound the table”.

8. My updated investment read

I’d summarise the update as:

Positive: RPL has moved materially higher; Health rollout remains the key growth engine; cash balance is strong; management appears confident; new leadership may improve execution; the business still has credible operating leverage if revenue per location holds.

Negative: revenue momentum is not as strong as the language suggests; forward revenue visibility appears short-dated; rollout is uneven; no clear H2 FCF evidence; management communication is more promotional than analytical; profitability impact from expanded leadership remains unclear.

Net: slightly positive operationally, slightly negative versus a high-growth bull case. I would not call it a thesis break. I would call it a discipline check.

The three things I’d now monitor most closely are:

  1. FY26 revenue excluding Go — does it finish closer to your $8.8m estimate, or can Q4 surprise?
  2. FY27 opening run-rate — do new Health locations actually lift revenue, or just screen count?
  3. Cash conversion — does H2/FY26 show real free cash flow after rollout costs and added leadership costs?

My challenge back to you: I’d be careful not to let the attractive one-year payback claim do too much work in the valuation until Motio shows it at the contribution-profit level, not just revenue-per-screen level.

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Goldfish
Added one year ago

Watched the CEO interview and checked out the financials

My major concerns are around the dependence on advertisers and the TAM

At the moment, the screens are only around two thirds "full" of advertising. The CEO basically admits that there is little value in just adding more screens, because advertisers often have a fixed budget in mind (ie adding more screens will not necessarily bring in more revenue). So essentially the limiting factor in this business is availability of advertising dollars. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that advertising is a super-competitive and highly cyclical industry.

So this is not one of those businesses that can continue to deploy capital and generate high returns. The best they can do is to optimise the quality of their locations, demonstrate the effectiveness of their advertising (so as to attract more advertising dollars), and perhaps modestly increase the number of screens over time. If they can do that, while keeping costs under control, maybe they can do ok. But the upside seems limited

I do like the business model. Partnering with the host business, displaying some of their content, in order to get your screen into their space almost for "free"

Also the price is right, at less than one times revenue. And the business has cash-flow profitability and earnings momentum.

There are some things to like. But the potential cyclicality, dependence on advertisers and capped upside will probably keep me on the sidelines

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Strawman
Added one year ago

I love how you build an investment thesis @Wini -- methodical, rational and grounded. Love it!!

I'd never even heard of Motio before, but as soon as I'm done typing this I'll try and arrange a sit down with the CEO.

Also, your reaction to the global macro shenanigan's is exactly right -- ignore the noise and get on with looking for good businesses. Sure beats doom scrolling twitter (which was my initial reaction)

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jcmleng
Added one year ago

I have been deep diving MXO in the past day or so.

Contact with MXO CEO

I sent a message via MXO's website requesting for a media kit. A added a comment saying that I was wanting to focus on the operational and technical aspects of the business, the delivery mechanism etc.

Blown away when I received an email response from Adam the CEO directly this morning, saying that the media kits don't cover these areas, but he offered to do a F2F or video call to talk me through it, and included his email and mobile. Totally get that MXO is a nano cap, but for the lowly minority shareholder that I am, it still does take getting used to when companies actually RESPOND ...

It was also an in-my-face reminder that CEO's are real humans, and not all of them are complete arseholes like Musk ...

Note also, there is a Trading Update Webinar on Tue 8 Apr 0930 AEST/0630 AWST which I will try to attend - details on the MXO announcements page.

@Strawman , will DM to check if you have been able to line Adam up for a chat, else we can take him up on this specific offer and lock something in.

Initial Thoughts on MXO

I am really liking the turnaround that @Wini has flagged.

I have some past experience with digital signage as my IT team managed the install and operations of the digital screens which were placed throughout the business , in the admin areas, shopfloor, workshops etc.

  • Would have maybe 60-70 screens all up, scattered at locations across the country, with large numbers on a few big sites, mickey mouse compared to MXO, but good enough to get a sense of how these things work/operate.
  • We ran a solution called Brightsign if I recall - each screen had a small Brightsign set top box which runs the device and is connected to the internal network.
  • We would then use a central console to push video content or a powerpoint slideshow out through the internal network - while we could have pushed content on an individual screen basis, we generally pushed the same content globally.
  • Had one person manage this, and while this was not a full time role at all, there was a regular need for human support each time the screens died, the content needed updating etc.


So I started looking at MXO with this context in mind.

From an initial read of the Annual Reports, MXO:

  • is a Placed-Based media company
  • owns and operates digital screen networks in Health (Motio Health), Hospitality (Motio Cafe and Motio Venue) and “Play” (Motio Play) location
  • has location-specific content pushed out to thousands of screens installed at these locations, and most importantly, there is a captive audience for that location-specific content - people are sitting around waiting/hanging out, and the screens run in your face during that time ...


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  • Content comes from various channels - News Feed, OnDemand, Q&A, Centre/Location-specific Content - the screens are programmed to run through the content in a loop of content + advertising

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  • There is a product/capability called "Creator by Motion - looks like a capability for location owners to create own content, eg. A menu, specials etc and to use the digital board to publish that content


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I want to better understand the technical infrastructure and operations from install to run/operate, to be able to better assess the reasonableness of the financials, especially on personnel cost, running costs, capex for the screens, which should then inform on scalability of the screen network and how growth can be supported.

I don't understand how advertising contracts work either ...

Don't fully understand the competitive moat and barriers to new entrants, to deliver the advertising capability/revenue. Digital signage as a hardware and software capability is not hard nor expensive to deploy in a location or in a multi-site organisation. The challenge is in managing the ongoing running of that signage in terms of content creation, refreshing, tech support etc. Is this MXO's moat, in that it takes away all that from the business hosting the signage and manages it entirely remotely? Or is the moat around the locations, location intelligence, location-based content which then makes advertising very targeted and cost effective? Or both?

MXO Price

Aside from all that @Wini has flagged, the other major attraction is that the price is as close to $0 as it could get. MXO has been listed since Sep 1994, peaked at a high of $2.25 and closed on Fri at 2.9c, so the only way is up, with downside as capped as can be - this is a big tick in my turnaound entry criteria.

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Wini
Added 12 months ago

The bluebirds are chirping for MXO! In a recent podcast about managing a sales pipeline (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-media-sales-mastery-51011253/episode/pipeline-mastery-277297337/), MXO's CEO Adam Cadwallader said one of the difficulties comes from "bluebirds", his internal term for sales deals that come out of blue and from outside of the hard work of the sales team building their pipeline.

It's the potential emergence of these wins that creates the natural conservatism in the guidance provided by the Board that I noted in my original Straw. Fortunately it sounds as if the 4Q25 has been a strong one for the business, with Adam specifically calling out some bluebirds assisting the growth:

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Nonetheless, this is a cracking update. Almost all of the incremental revenue growth has hit the bottom line (somewhat expected given bluebirds will usually be achieved without gearing up additional opex for growth) and though does set a high bar for MXO into FY26, there is clear underlying momentum in the business and they are riding the wave of structural growth in outdoor advertising.

I still think for the medium/longer term MXO needs to acquire bolt-on digital networks to plug into their established sales engine, but hopefully with a stronger share price/valuation the Board can embark on that with more confidence.

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