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Pinned straw:

Added 6 months ago

$IEL provided a trading update this morning.

Reading through it, it is as if they've read my post last week on the Tax Loss selling Forum! So, I can honestly say I was not surprised to see today's announcement.

The SP reaction - well that's another thing altogether!

Here's their headlines.

"IDP’s key destination markets continue to be impacted by policy uncertainty, which is negatively impacting the size of the international student market globally.

• UK: heightened uncertainty following release of Immigration Policy White Paper, with further restrictions on student immigration expected

• Australia / Canada: restrictive policies remain post-election; further policy changes pending •

Canada: student demand continues to decline sharply due to ongoing policy volatility

• US: international student environment increasingly negative

This continued uncertainty has impacted IDP student enrolment pipeline size and conversion rates in the important May and June pipeline build given the timing of the fall intake in the UK, Canada and the US, as well as the second semester intake in Australia. 

In FY25, IDP’s Student Placement volumes are now expected to decrease by c. 28% - 30%, and IDP’s Language Testing volumes are now expected to decrease by c. 18% - 20% compared to FY24. The impact on revenue will be partially mitigated by continued strong average fee growth.

IDP now estimates that Adjusted FY25 EBIT1 for FY25 will be in the range of $115m - $125m. The business has continued cost control initiatives since the half year, with Adjusted Overhead Costs2 for H2 FY25 now expected to be approximately 5% below H2 FY24, despite IDP’s negative operating leverage. "

My Assessment

Personally, I'm glad I spend so much of my time following what is happening politically and economically around the world, but you'd have to be living under a rock not to have seen the chilling, headwind blowing across the international student sector at the moment for multiple reasons.

None of this changes my view that $IEL is a global leader in its sector, and also, I believe that in time the business environment will turn. However, what has changed from my perspective in the last few months, is I no longer have a view as to how long these headwinds will blow. And for that reason the impact on enterprise value is real and material.

And that's why my thesis broke. Today, I'm particularly glad I bit the bullet when I did.

Disc: Not held

mushroompanda
Added 6 months ago

IEL market cap now currently $1.1b. CAT is now $1.5b.

ASX200 index swap-a-roo?

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OxyBBear
Added 6 months ago

I sold out of this at around $9.80 while kicking myself that I gave the stock too much rope having bought in at just under $20. Expensive lesson for me.

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Solvetheriddle
Added 6 months ago

I won't spend too much on this one, although i hold it , it is in the bottom half a dozen holdings out of about 50 stocks I own (before today that is). i listened to the call, clearly the analysts were anticipating some stability in Aust/Uk, which has not forthcoming. Both IELTS and SP volumes down, IELTS showing some decrease at a decreasing rate, so slowing, but SP where the $$ are, still falling heavily and the implied 2H volumes are very poor, 2026 does not look like a turnaround, potentially 2026 is the bottom? who knows. the EBIT guidance is again poor due to SP declining and operational leverage and it's a long way back.

the B/s looks ok 5-6X Interest coverage, but we need to see cashflow, which has been an issue with IEL. so something to look at in August

Interestingly, when volumes were around these annualised levels, the share price was around $9, going to $31 so draw your own conclusions on that one. different environment now.

they gave some visa numbers, Canada very poor, US not great (no surprises here) but Aust/Uk both down 9-10% and mgt offered no signs of a bottom, so thats the rub and upset the apple cart.

on a broader investment level, a while ago i wrote a piece the "tail that doesnt wag" about the tail of my portfolio being my worst performers. the common story here is that they are good quality companies that are battling earnings downgrade cycles, clearly the market has low tolerance here, the art of identifying long term intrinsic valuation into a downgrade cycle is clearly a poor bet. I have been careful of this and have long abandoned my old doubling down strategy that made me so much money pre GFC. its a different era. so my lesson from this one and a few others is wait for the pressure on earnings to clear before doubling down or even initiating at all, in most cases. that strategy is proving much superior in the land of massive momentum investing. of course you can buy those stocks that fall without any earnings concerns being a much less stressful existence. imo :)



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Mujo
Added 6 months ago

Now sure who it was that mentioned the decline in active managers controlling the market means stocks fall further than they used too and don't bounce quickly either.

I think you're right though, looking at share price and earnings trends are a key way to avoid a lot of pain and angst. Wait to the cycle turns as they always fall further than you think. You may miss the absolute bottom, but you'll still capture the greatest share of the gains.

It's a lesson I have to keep learning again and again unfortunately. Probably should come back to IEL when placement volumes are increasing again and IEL is cycling the weak earnings.

Look for those that have earnings and share price momentum. Companies like GDG and 360 are interesting in just how far they can go when the fewer then previous active managers have them in their sights.

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Solvetheriddle
Added 6 months ago

@Mujo just to clarify

IELTS fh volumes were 684k and the guidance implies 600k in the 2H, that is modestly below my expectations -19% vrs -14%. second derivative improving here

but

Student placement (SP) was 42k FH and 28k in the 2H, so a significant decline, a 29% drop against my -15% FY estimate. Here is the issue: it is a big money spinner.

i think IELTS is a forward indicator, so maybe 2027 SP bottoms? long way out. those volumes are the same as 5-6 years ago. so significant

i need to see more stability here before adding is the bottom line.

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edgescape
Added 6 months ago

Well I finished my degree earlier than usual by using my prior learning experience to convert to credit points and saving a truckload of money on fees.

Says something about tertiary education these days. The objective and material just doesn't feel appealing to me. But this is just my opinion only and others may have different view.

Perhaps this is why iel never appealed to me. Was hoping I was wrong though

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