Forum Topics AHL AHL New CEO and Guidance

Pinned straw:

Added 4 months ago

In a clunkily worded announcement, (AHL announcement.pdf) the company has stated that CEO Kevin Boyle is resigning "to pursue other opportunities." He only took the job at the start of 2024.

The new head appears to be an interim appointment, and from what I can tell, he’s an external hire.

The company listed with Don Cormack as CEO, who led the business from 2006 through to 2023. Darryl Abotomey held the role on an interim basis for about six months before Kevin Boyle took over.

Not great that they are having such trouble filling this role.

Still, shares are up quite a bit today, although this is a hyper illiquid stock and it only took about $16k of buying to push the price 13% higher. That move likely has more to do with the guidance, which was almost buried at the end of the announcement. As far as I can tell, it is the first time the company has provided anything specific. Namely, that "Adrad expects underlying FY25 earnings performance to be within a range of 95 to 100 percent of underlying FY24 earnings performance."

I assume they are referring to EBITDA, but they don’t actually say. If we go with that, it suggests FY25 EBITDA of $17.2 to $18.1 million.

Now, no one likes to see earnings fall, especially underlying earnings, but the reason the market seems to like it is because it suggests a decent recovery from the first half and a solid pick-up over the second half of FY24.

First-half FY25 EBITDA came in at $8.2 million, implying $9.0 to $9.9 million in the second half. That’s a decent lift from the first half, and compares well to $8.2 million in the second half of FY24, suggesting that the recent pricing actions, cost controls and contract renegotiations may be starting to have an effect. That’s encouraging given the margin squeeze they were facing earlier in the year.

I’m a little dismayed by the churn at the top, but it’s good to see things turning around from the first half. The thesis here remains the same -- a decent, albeit slow-growing, business that took a hit from outside factors that don’t reflect long-term earnings potential. These seem to be getting addressed, and the business is just plain cheap at the moment, trading on a forward EV/EBITDA of around 2.5 times based on the low end of guidance (excluding lease liabilities) or 5x if you include them -- which you probably should. More simply, the forward PE is probably around 9x.

Goldfish
Added 4 months ago

Having given this some thought for a couple of days, I am going to hold off buying for the moment.

Too many times I have been burnt by management departures and/or selling shares

At minimum, this dramatically reduces the possibility of any rapid improvements in the business in the short-medium term. If the guy with the greatest knowledge of the business decides to leave to "persue other opportunities", then it pretty much implies that the opportunity at AHL is not that great.

Seems to me that the one sentence earnings guidance at the end was chucked in just to try and reduce the hit to sentiment (and the SP) from the CEO leaving. Somehow it worked too well

24

Strawman
Added 4 months ago

You put that really well @Goldfish

People don't tend to bail because things are going great.

Could be there really was just something more interesting and personally lucrative for the CEO. More a "pull" as opposed to a "push" factor. Hopefully...? We can only speculate.

It definitely does mean this position needs to be on a tighter leash for me. Especially with what @Karmast and others have raised.

I'm going to try and avoid my usual mistake of waiting way too many quarters before recognising a busted thesis. Fingers crossed that's something that wont be tested!

24
Summer12
Added 4 months ago

The closure of the NZ factory will also assist with cost controls.

15
jcmleng
Added 4 months ago

If there was one lesson to be learnt from the AHL announcement it was to read the damn announcement from top to bottom. I missed the Earnings guidance completely.

Didn't like the CEO transition bit - Kevin barely lasted a year, which isn't usually a good look. But sometimes, better to bite the bullet sooner rather than later.

Re: earnings, think they refer to EBITDA as their main focus from a financial standpoint if I recall. I had a look back at the numbers:

  • EBITDA FY2024 was $17.5m
  • 95% of that would bring FY2025 EBITDA to at least $16.6m
  • With 1HFY24 EBITDA at $8.2m, it looks like 2H EBITDA will come in at at least $8.4m


Which, if the math is correct, would be a nice outcome and as @Strawman says, "would be extremely encouraging"! Anxious to understand the drivers for the slight uptick vs my March 2025 1HFY25 commentary:

Thesis Review

Thesis was predicated on: 

  • Revenue growth from HTS given dominant market position on Industrial Cooling, domestically and in Asia - tick
  • Growth from AluFin taking off - good positive greenshoots, tick
  • Thai manufacturing facility would give AHL an Asian base, from which to deepen penetration to Asia - tick
  • Thai facility will also lower cost - cautious tick on this, the issue this half was more raw materials/AUD driven - without the Thai facility, the cost increase could well have been worse
  • Cost advantages was not an explicit part of the thesis, although arguably, there was an implicit assumption that costs would stay under control and contained - the cost increases this half has knocked this assumption around a bit
  • Management is aware of the challenges and have and will continue to focus on cost management
  • Pricing increases will have kicked in in 2HFY25, expecting ~$2.5m to kick in - $1m from Distribution and $1.5m from HTS


In summary, while the cost increases have impacted EBIT and NPAT, and the downward trend of both is not great, the revenue-related thesis is actually playing out. 

Still too early to call this result a thesis breaker, but will need to see improvement in cost increases to arrest the increasing trajectory.

Chart Review

The share price still looks attractive from a chart perspective - historical all time low was 56c a few months back, which caps the downside but leaving a lot of upside room to run ....

c7d14d71ef7cab1ce1417c3aac43144001619b.png

Discl: Held IRL and in SM

22
Goldfish
Added 4 months ago

Murphys law. I was going to buy today. Sigh

14