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Pinned straw:

Added 3 months ago

It was a great set of results for FY25. Though much of it was pre-announced in an earlier trading update, so there were no surprises. 2H was significantly stronger with $27.9m revenue and $8.1m EBIT. A notable shift from prior years is the growing share of smaller clinical trial wins, which provide faster turnarounds and earlier revenue recognition.

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In the past, Cogstate has hinted that channel partnerships (with groups like ERT or Clario) could help drive sales. It now looks like they’ve found the real deal in Medidata - a major electronic data capture company with 4,000+ staff and roughly 800 salespeople. The partnership is still in its infancy: the sales team only began ramping up in February 2025, yet proposals involving Medidata already represent around 20% of Cogstate’s pipeline. With Medidata’s far deeper reach into clinical trials, Cogstate is accessing a broader range of opportunities than it could on its own. Management has made it clear this is only the beginning, with expectations of further pipeline growth and contract wins as the joint approach matures.

We’re also beginning to see the benefits of the April 2024 licensing amendment with Japanese pharma giant Eisai, which returned global rights to Cogstate’s assessment technology. That technology is now being used to help pharma companies pre-screen patients for clinical trials - an application that generated $1.2m in FY25 revenue, with more opportunities of this kind already in the pipeline.

It’s been a tough stock to hold over the years, largely because Cogstate has been so reliant on a small number of large phase 3 Alzheimer’s trials. The scarcity of these large deals, combined with their inherent lumpiness and the impact of patient recruitment delays, has led to significant year-to-year swings in the company’s performance.

All of a sudden, the outlook looks much brighter. The business is diversifying beyond Alzheimer’s into areas like rare disease, sleep disorders, and Parkinson’s - smaller trials that are quicker to secure and faster to recognise revenue from, smoothing out the historic lumpiness. Medidata is now driving meaningful RFP flow and opening doors into new indications. Cogstate has also began monetising its consumer-facing technologies for patient recruitment, with scope to expand into further use cases. Importantly, the upside from large phase 3 Alzheimer’s trials remains intact, with a number of big pharma companies currently progressing phase 2 programs.

Management have suggested revenue growth is once again expected in FY26, but with the shortened sales cycles and revenue recognition, no specific numbers have been given. Also expect a modest margin decline (~0-3 percentage points on EBITDA/EBIT) due to increase investments. They’re off to a strong start with $14.1m of contract revenue banked since June 30. A maiden $0.02/share fully franked dividend was also declared.

One could make the case that it’s a very reasonably priced company with an EV/E of 15x (annualise 2H performance), that’s more self-reliant than it has previously been (broader beyond AD, stronger channel-partner leverage, and a faster cadence of smaller contracts), with some tremendous tailwinds (pursuit of AD treatments, pharma chasing earlier stages of AD that require more sensitive endpoints, etc). Ultimately, this is only for investors that have belief in the long-term tailwinds and willing to ride the bumps and grinds - this is not your grandad’s SaaS company adding incremental ARR every year.

Slew
Added 3 months ago

@mushroompanda gave a good overview of Cogstate—agree it’s worth keeping on the watchlist and appears to be gaining some traction.

A few recent signals have caught my eye:

  • They’ve announced an Investor Day for November—Hard to imagine a company putting on a 5-hour session if they weren’t feeling optimistic about what's ahead.
  • There’s increased IR activity: holding investor webinars (they’re up on the website) and, for the first time in ages, I’ve started hearing Cogstate mentioned in financial media.


Director buying: Brad just bought $87.5 on market. Not huge given he already has about $10.6m in equity (plus options and performance shares), but equally—why bother unless he’s confident in the outlook? Could be a soft signal to retail punters, but he’s never really struck me as a classic promoter—or I guess cynically it’s part of the new IR push.

So, is Cogstate finally getting ready to grow into its promise?

  • Financials are good (if a bit lumpy).
  • Feels like there’s a real effort to “sell” the story to the investment community right now.
  • Liquidity potential barrier for larger investors—averaged about $130K traded per day over the last 12 months, including buybacks.
  • Product usage is expanding beyond Alzheimer’s trials, makes business more robust.
  • The CGS data set is valuable —chance of renewed M&A possibilities?
  •  Brad’s been around ~19 years. How much longer will he stick it out?


@Strawman at the last meeting, Brad was pretty flat, it would be good to get an update meeting if possible, see if his outlook has brightened.

Held for ~5 years, small position, topped up after results.

Was planning to sell after this report season if no clear path ahead emerged, I’m satisfied with the results & commentary so back to holding for another year.

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Strawman
Added 3 months ago

Absolutely @Slew

Will see what I can do

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Strawman
Added 3 months ago

Brad has agreed to come back for another interview @Slew -- just working to lock in a time, but likely mid-spetember.

In the meantime, he asked me to pass this on to the group:


Just by way of update Andrew, I also thought you may be interested in the following…


Over the last few months, we’ve launched an Investor Insight Series and I just wanted to bring to your attention two webinars that we have conducted recently: https://investors.cogstate.com/investor-insight-series 

  • The first, featuring the CEO of Medidata, talks about the opportunity for the Cogstate - Medidata partnership, including the rationale for the partnership from Medidata’s viewpoint;
  • The second, featuring Akash Tewari, MD from Jefferies in NY who leads their big-Pharma coverage, focuses on the current state of Alzheimer’s research and an important near-term catalyst in Alzheimer’s R&D and why Cogstate is well positioned to benefit from that catalyst.


The other item that I will bring to your attention is the inaugural Investor Day that Cogstate will be hosting on 07 November in Melbourne: https://investors.cogstate.com/cogstate-investor-day. In Melbourne for the event, we will have Joe Schmidt, who is the global COO of Medidata, Phyllis Ferrell, who previously ran Lilly’s Alzheimer’s disease program, as well as the entire Cogstate senior executive team. We plan to demonstrate our a.i. products at the Investor Day. We’d love to see you there.


(also, i've put out invites for all the other guest requests, and will keep you posted.)

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