Forum Topics SKK SKK Greenshoots of transformation

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Stakk Ltd has gone through significant transformation over the last couple of years, and it may be starting to pay off with management guiding for ARR to hit $8.0m by December 2025.

What they do: Having now ditched the retail side of their business, Stakk is a SaaS provider of compliance and risk management tools to "embedded finance" businesses. Stakk provides tools to onboard and risk assess customers for fintech solutions who may not wish to invest in building their own tools in-house. Stakk makes money from charging a base monthly fee for this software as well as charging for usage by their customers, so that revenue will grow as customers grow. The recent announcements of Robinhood and T-Mobile signing as customers is good validation that there is a customer value proposition for both startups and larger enterprises.

With continued strong growth, Stakk will be able to turn cashflow positive within 1-2 years. They recently announced customer acquisitions will need time to scale up for Stakk to see revenue reach maturity. They currently rely upon $1m in government grants to stabilise operating cashflow, but with their current growth this is easily achievable within 1-2 years. Profit breakeven would soon follow, however I think it is highly likely profits are on a very far horizon as the business would probably re-invest rather than achieve profitability. Capital allocation here is key, and there is a good chance of future capital raises even after the recent $15m raise.

Finally, pure speculation on my part: given that the majority of their customers are in the US, if the company achieves a high enough market cap then management might push for a NASDAQ listing.

Valuation of 10x ARR for high-growth SaaS implies a share price of ~$0.039. However, I view the recent share price activity (~$0.052 as of time of writing) as being a positive thing. The recent volatility provides much needed liquidity and attention, and the ASX is very willing to suffer high valuations for high-growth companies.

jcmleng
Added 2 months ago

Quick update. I reached out to Stakk via their website to "better understand their products as an investor". Andy Taylor, the CEO, emailed back earlier today offering to chat, which I appreciated.

Have now connected Andy with @Strawman to line up a SM chat instead .. would be awesome if this could be organised!

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Strawman
Added 2 months ago

Nice work @jcmleng

I'll get this scheduled ASAP

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jcmleng
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@Keyboardcat999 , have spent a bit of time having a closer look at SKK. I went back to the time DOU did a RTO of ZIP in 2020 I think it was, to understand the history a bit more closely. A few things don't quite make sense to me, hoping you have some background that might fill in some gaps for me.

Firstly, Operationally, things made sense up to about early 2023

- DOU was focused on "customer financial wellness", firstly in the US, then in Aust.

- It bought the Goodments App in Jan 2021, then every few months, some partnership or new capability would be added. This was all for the US.

- Then in 2022, it started to build the "Financial Super App" for Australia

- Lots of loans and capital raises along the way, so it was burning through a lot of cash,

- It also seems that from about 2021-2024, they started to work on the Stakk platform which is the B2B version of the B2C capabilities they had built. B2B services was a bit of a footnote to the 6 Nov 2023 announcement.

The language changed decisively in Feb 2024 when there was an update on the change in focus from B2C to B2B with the Stakk focus.

Do you know what happened to the B2C capabilities that were built? It sort of fell to the wayside as I haven't found clear commentary which explains the change in focus from B2C to B2B prior to Feb 2024, and I can't see to find any announcements around how they have left B2C and whether this is still running or has been decommissioned? There was also commentary about the shutting down of the US operations.

There is also very little revenue flowing in from B2C (vs the huge cash outflows) in FY23/FY24.

So, I am missing something here.

The R-DBX Acquisition was a clear game changer in Sep 2024

It wasn't terribly clear what R-DBX capabilities were actually acquired. It also isn't clear how the Stakk B2B solution and the R-DBX capabilities come together, functionally and technically.

Then unlike the period when new capabilities were added, there was virtually no operational announcements other than the Appendix 4C's in Jan 25, a Mar 25 Update and thereafter there was bullishness around ARR increases, no of banks/credit union contracts etc. It feels there is a whole chunk of information missing from about June 2024, before and after the R-DBX Acquisition

It also feels like SKK are almost entirely riding on the coatails of R-DBX rather than the Stakk B2B solution ie, every win feels like a R-DBX win. It is very hard to tell if the wins are because of R-DBX technology, Stakk technology or both - the boundaries are completely blurred now. So, while it looks very exciting financially (from a rather horrible DUG base, I might add), I am not clear what capability SKK is actually selling ...

Appreciate any information or understanding that you may have!

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Keyboardcat999
Added 2 months ago

Hi @jcmleng , I've only been following the company for a few months myself, but the B2C part of the business is no longer accepting new customers. If you go to the website, you'll only be able to join the wait list and the mobile apps are no longer available. There is only very brief commentary of this on the Q2FY25 quarterly:

"Noting that the Company only closed the acquisition of R-DBX on December 28, 2024 (andtherefore having limited impact on our Q2 numbers herein), the Company collected $18k (Previous Qtr (Q1): $45k) in cash receipts for the quarter from consumers transacting via theDouugh App. The drop in collections was as a result of the Company shutting off new customer sign ups and a system outage and subsequent update in December causing a suspension in loan originations."

The fact that this was not even a footnote is quite the red flag, which should spook sensible investors, but is consistent with the constant pivoting of the company over the years (red on red flags).

R-DBX

From what I understand, the R-DBX acquisition is more of a customer acquisition play rather than capability. R-DBX services were:

  • Database Solutions: they provide tools and platforms aimed at increasing the efficiency and effectiveness of database operations.
  • Data Integration: Radical DBX highlights the significance of merging data from various sources to facilitate thorough analysis and insights.
  • Innovative Technologies: the company dedicates resources to research and development, delivering solutions that tackle today's data management issues.


This essentially got combined with the nascent B2B proposition that Douugh had already created in-house. That's probably why all of the commentary around the acquisition is focused on the customer contract value. I'm not too fused about the boundaries between the two now, given that this is the primary focus on the company.

Hope this clarifies a few things.

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jcmleng
Added 2 months ago

@Keyboardcat999 , both those points do make sense and explains a fair bit, thanks!

I have not yet gone into the Appendix 4C's as I focused on getting my head around the actual product first. The way that was handled is a huge red flag - ditching customers after an all-out assault on capability build and customer acquisition.

Your R-DBX comments are interesting. So it would seem that:

DOU took in a lot of investor money to (1) build the B2C capabilities, then rapidly and completely ditched it, leaving customers stranded (2) in parallel, tweaked those B2C capabilities so that they can resell the B2C capabilities to other neobanks (3) acquired R-DBX so that they have a platform to sell the B2B capabilities.

And now, the contracts are rolling in for those B2B capabilities ....

What I still don't understand:

1. Why do they need R-DBX to make the B2B sales, if the product was that good and that marketeable?

2. Instead of ditching the B2C in the manner that they did, why could they not have kept B2C going, while they built the market for the B2B?

3. What is the actual value-add of R-DBX to SKK? I saw the same services that you listed, but still don't quite understand what underlying technical capability it adds to SKK. If there is no technical capability, then what has changed to now enable them to sell B2B post the R-DBX acquisition.

4. What exactly is the B2B product that SKK has and why is that so marketable - this was my original question leading to the request to chat with SKK.

Thats what I can't get my head around ... these would be my first questions to Andy in the SM chat ...

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Keyboardcat999
Added 2 months ago

These are great questions and I don't have any further clarity on this other than point 4.

If you've ever opened an account with a neobank/fintech you may have found that the process to sign up as a customer and open an account is much faster than traditional banks. Banks have rather strict compliance requirements to 'Know Your Customer' (KYC). Banks firstly have to onboard you as an individual so if you are 'new to bank' you have to provide copies of your identity to prove who you are. Once you've been 'onboarded' you then request an account ('originate'). If you're borrowing money, then you need to prove your credit-worthiness as part of risk management. A 'bank' is simply a collection of databases wrapped in immense layers of processes and rules.

Let's say you're T-Mobile: a network provider who suddenly wants to offer savings accounts. You don't want to do any of that. That stuff is expensive, it requires highly-skilled workers and systems you'd need to build so that you have an audit log for regulators etc.

Rather than making a customer walk into a branch with 100 points of ID, SKK's products allow T-Mobile to scan a customer's ID with their phone and SKK will validate it and proceed to the next step. If T-Mobile wants to offer lending products, SKK's products allow them to assess the credit-worthiness of the customer and then create the account. A bank account isn't very useful if you cannot transact on it, and so SKK gives T-Mobile the technology to process, settle and reconcile transactions using industry-wide payment rails.

For me, the big $100bn question is how SKK's products 'stakk' up (get it? haha) against Stripe's products and solutions. Stakk is not the only provider, and I would put it to Andy what differentiates SKK against other providers of embedded finance.

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jcmleng
Added 2 months ago

@Keyboardcat999 , that sounds interesting, will have a poke around. Always keen to explore small companies punching above their weight globally ...

Not knowing anything about the business yet, the chart is in an interesting spot. 4.2c looks like a nice entry zone, which is not far above your 3.9c valuation.

@Strawman , request to see if you could wire up a chat?

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