Forum Topics NEU NEU Acadia Results - Part 2

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With the "Canada issue" out of my system in Part 1, here is a summary of last week's $ACAD (Acadial Pharmaceuticals) 3Q Results call.

1. Commercial Performance and Market Dynamics

  • Net sales: US $101.1 million in Q3 2025, up 11% year-over-year, marking Acadia’s largest quarterly sales for DAYBUE. This was the highest quarter for net product sales overall
  • Market penetration: Approximately 40% overall in the U.S. Rett syndrome market, with 27% penetration in community settings
  • Referral growth: Achieved the largest quarter-over-quarter increase in referrals since launch, driven by expansion of the field team and outreach to community prescribers.
  • Community prescribers: Now account for 74% of new prescriptions, up from 64% the prior year.
  • Persistency: > 50% of patients remain on therapy at 12 months, and > 45% remain on therapy at 18 months, indicating durable adherence.
  • Global access: Named-patient supply programs are expanding in Europe, Israel, the Middle East, and Latin America, with 1,006 patients treated worldwide to-date
  • Guidance (FY 2025): DAYBUE net sales forecast US$385 – $400 million, with gross-to-net 22.5 – 23.5%, reaffirming momentum


(From Q&A)

  • Management reiterated that growth was broad-based across both academic and community prescribers, with community uptake now sustaining most new patient starts. (Note: some 75% of the addressible market is treated by community prescribers, and this segment remains relatively under-penetrated)
  • They emphasized that the larger field force deployed earlier in 2025 directly contributed to improved referral rates.
  • No change was announced to 2025 guidance, indicating confidence in continued double-digit growth.


2. Regulatory and Geographic Expansion

From presentation

  • DAYBUE (trofinetide) is approved only in the U.S. and Canada for treatment of Rett syndrome in adults and pediatric patients ≥ 2 years
  • A Phase 3 trial of trofinetide in Japan has been initiated, marking Acadia’s first pivotal trial outside North America
  • The company filed a Marketing Authorisation Application (MAA) with the European Medicines Agency (EMA), with an anticipated CHMP opinion in 2026
  • Named-patient supply programs already operate in multiple regions (EU, Israel, Middle East, Latin America).


(From Q&A)

  • Executives stated that the EMA filing was accepted in Q3, and the CHMP opinion is expected mid-2026.
  • They confirmed that Japan’s Phase 3 trial uses the same dosing and endpoints as the U.S. approval study, designed for regulatory alignment.
  • Early named-patient use is providing real-world data that will support broader access discussions post-CHMP.
  • "Disappointing decision in Canada" (what??! See Part 1 Straw)



3. R&D and Pipeline Integration

From presentation

  • DAYBUE remains the core commercial rare-disease asset, while ACP-2591 (cyclo-GPE analogue) is a next-generation follow-up in Rett and Fragile X syndromes
  • The company is building a global Rett-syndrome franchise, leveraging DAYBUE’s success to expand to additional indications and geographies.

(Q&A)

  • R&D leadership highlighted that DAYBUE’s durable efficacy data continue to inform the design of ACP-2591 Phase 2 planning, with a goal of complementary rather than cannibalistic positioning in Rett syndrome.
  • Management also noted interest from academic consortia in exploring DAYBUE in combination therapies, though no new trials have yet been initiated.


4. Other Q&A Comments

  • CFO Mark Schneyer confirmed that DAYBUE’s gross-to-net deduction (~23%) is expected to remain stable in 2026 given payer mix and limited rebate pressure.
  • Analysts asked about inventory levels; management stated they are “healthy and in line with volume growth,” with no channel stuffing anticipated year-end.


My Assessement (thinking out loud, so apologies for the stream of consciousness format)

DAYBUE sales of US$101.1m for the Q came in below the low case of my model ($102.3 - $104.3 - $106.2). My model had them hitting a FY range of $388.5 - $400.5, and so with the lower number achieved in Q3, I'm expecting they'll be towards the lower end of the narrowed guidance of $385 - $400m.

But this is really splitting hairs, and the key message is that management have confirmed my view form earlier this year that they have a good grip on how the product is performing in the market, and sales force productivity, and so will be making good resource allocation decisions.

What we don't know is how much of the revenues came from outside the US, given that the product is being made available to patients ex-US in an increasing number of markets in early access programs. It's a high-value product, so it doesn't take for many patients accessing the drug from overseas to start to move this dial.

But I am disappointed at the growth rate, because in Jan-25 the company announced a 30% sales force expansion. This was completed in May-25, and while it will have taken some months for new starters to get traction with their accounts, the period Jul-Oct has in my view enjoyed a full quarter with the expanded field force, focused on the community-based prescribers. My range was meant to capture the full ("80%") confidence I perceived at the time.

A year ago, the 3Q-on-2Q growth rate was +7.8%, so even with the +30% expanded sales force in 2025, the sequential q-o-q growth of +5.2% indicates just how much of a headwind patient churn is. That said, Persistency seems to be holding up: c. 50% at 12 months and 45% at 18 months are again reported, and it will probably not be until next year that we get to see what this is becoming out to 24 months.

So, let's have a stab at considering US Revenue Growth from here:

Case 1: Management say they will continue double digit annual revenue growth. So giving them the full benefit of the doubt and assuming they hit 2025 revenue of $390m, at 10% for two years, that gets them to $472m in 2027, and $520m in 2028 - likely the year of plateau sales,... or maybe they'll eek out some further growth in 2029.

Case 2: Being generous, let's assume an upside QoQ growth of 4% or 17% pa for two years. That gets them $533m in 2027, and a likely plateau sales in year 5 of $623m in 2028.

But, then again, I think Case 2 is overly generous. Afterall, the 2025-2024 PCP growth rate was only 11%, and let's trim that to 10% to allow for some overseas patients. The sales force expansion has helped the last quarterly result, and so they will likely struggle to do much better than 10% p.a. over two years, even if the 2026 FY number gives a full year with the expanded salesforce cycling an earlier year before the ramp up, and so exceeding 10% in 2026 should be doable in all scenarios. But it can't be sustained IMHO. The persistency drag is just too high.

Looking at the historical trends, the rate of growth is maturing rapidly. For example, even while benefiting from a full quarter of expanded sales force, 3Q/2Q-2025 was +5.2%, compared with 3Q/2Q-2024 at +7.8%. So there is defintely a sequential decline at play towards a plateau that doesn't look that far off (s-curve).

So, in the table below I've modelled three scenarios for annual US revenue growth over the next 3 years (all in $USm):

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Depending on how longer term persistency evolves, we could find either 2028 or 2029 as the plateau year for the US. And in the illustration above, in the low scenario, $NEU doesn't get anymore milestone payments, and on the other two scenarios, will get the US$50m milestone only in 2028. The $750m milestone looks well and truly off the table to me.

I haven't pulled this through my $NEU valuation model yet; however, it is a significant deterioration on my earlier projections.


So, what does this mean for $NEU?

Well, US sales of US$490-$550m in round numbers are $NEU royalties of US$54-$62m or A$83-$95m, and that's much, much lower that the analysts have for $NEU.

Why?

Because I think the analysts are including all of the following things I haven't included:

  • Assume continuing growth, and not modelled an s-curve with a continuing persistency driving decline after year-5 plateau
  • Added milestone payments
  • Added RoW


My model is too complicated to pull through a simple set of number for the value of DAYBUE to $NEU. However, my earlier projections gave me $12 - $20/share (US growth and pro rata RoW offset by 3-4 years)

Today, I believe US DAYBUE will have a plateau in 2028 or 2029 and immediate steady decline, as new patients arrivals fail to keep pace with churn. So, if all we have is the US, then valuing $NEU at 5x peak contining royalties of, let's be generous and say, A$85m to A$120m gives A$425m - $600m, or with SOI of 126.5m shares, that's $3.35 - $4.75 /share.

Yes, that's what $NEU (US-DAYBUE only) could be, if it can't get reimbursement beyond the US and if it can't sustain growth,

Wow.

Of course, I think it will be worth more than that. But hopefully, you can see that at $18/share, NNZ-2591 is now potentially doing a lot of heavy lifting. And it might be worth it. But it also might not.

But that's not what my "2 for the price of 1" investment thesis was all about. So my thesis is well and truly broken.


BIG CAVEAT: I wasn't going to post this, because I was sure I've made an error somewhere. But I have gone through everything a couple of times, and also used a couple of independent methods, and keep getting similar results. And to be clear, I haven't accounted for $NEU's massive cash pile. But I am not doing an enterprise valuation of $NEU, but rather only the value of the royalty stream from US DAYBUE. So, as ever, this is not advice. But it is enough for me to take the decision I have already executed. Oftentimes, more analysis doesn't add more value.

That said, over the coming months, I will properly update my model. And that's because I want to know at what price I am prepared to buy back in for the value of NNZ-2591. But I don't think there is any hurry. The PMS Phase 3 trial has some way to run.


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Slideup
Added 4 weeks ago

@mikebrisy good assessment of where we are up to with Neuren. One aspect of growth that I think you are discounting is the net addition of the approx 300 new Rhett’s patients that are born each year in the US— based on broad population estimate Rhett frequency by birth rate.

As DayBue is now coming up to 2 years on the market this first cohort of new patients will be accessible and I am expecting that a larger proportion of these try the drug as I am assuming that they will have more touch points with the medical community and a push from parents to try it. So this should be around 100-150 patient adds per year from this coming year.

A comment I picked up from a recent Acadia presentation was that a lot of the older demographic are still not aware that DayBue exists, which sounds like part of what the expanded sales force is trying to address. They also mentioned that they generated the highest rate of referrals since launch this quarter, which they consider a very good leading indicator of patient adds.

Another comment I picked up on was that the persistency for the patients that started in the last twelve months is closer to 70%, but the total persistency of all patients is the >45% for two years, as a result of the high churn at the start. Depending on where this number finally settles will have a big effect on the level that revenue ultimately plate us at.

The Canada decision is disappointing and a potential risk that could dramatically reduce the value of the ROW milestones, but I don’t think it is such a black mark on management to not highlight it. Reading the decision it seems pretty clear that they need to demonstrate improvement in quality of life outcomes and have better data on how their improved patient management processes are addressing the high diarrhoea and vomiting issues that were present in the clinical trial data. These should be addressable either with data they currently or from data they can get. It does push out the chance of the next US milestone payment though.

Agree though that at $20 it’s less of a free option on NZ2591, but like @Nnyck777 I am still happy with the forward risk profile given the steady and consistent success across the phase 2 trials to date.

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mikebrisy
Added 4 weeks ago

@Slideup your points are well made and balanced, as was the earlier write-up by @Nnyck777. In particular, I agree with your point about the new incoming cohort (likely to have highly motivated parents) and the point about later cohorts having higher persistency than in the first year.

I also did not acknowledge earlier the point made by @Nnyck777 that JP had picked up on that sales force expansion was driving an uptick in referrals, but that the full impact would only show up in increased scripts in Q4. I will definitely be monitoring for that and reconsider my analysis when the Q4 result comes in. I DID NOT account for that in my analysis, and it could be a significant omission.

My attempts to size the value to $NEU of US DAYBUE sales is not an attempt to value the enterprise, but to put a lower bound on it (bear case). I should have been clearer about that.

And it is absolutely clear to me from the conference call that $ACAD are working hard to address the quality of life issues, including the evidence of their GI management plans on later cohorts. If, as they say, they've been able to lift 12-month persistence from 50% to 70%, then that's a massive win. They'll know from Canada that they''ll have to have the best package possible available for the EU reimbursement negotiations, when these get going next year, if the EU approves (which I assume it will). It looks like Germany will be the first cab off the ranks.

So, if a resubmission to Canada gets the "Do not Reimburse" recommendation over-turned, then that would be a mjaor "green-light" for Europe in my view. My sense is that the Canadian panel likely has a better response time than either the FDA or EU processes, given that the August publication had already considered an appeal from $ACAD, as I read it.

While I am in print again, there are also some other things to think about that we haven't spoken about before. According to $ACAD, they have now penetrated about 40% of the diagnosed population (including discontinued patients). That makes it sound like there is potentially 60% to go.

However, to balance this with some research I am currently doing, it looks like 40-50% market penetration is a likely ceiling for high cost drugs for rare neurological conditions. There aren't high quality sources for this, and some of the studies are from outside the US - where we'd expect to see much lower numbers. But I would urge caution on building an s-curve that is anchored on the total prevalent population (which is what I initially did). I am going to dig into this further over the coming weeks.

Factors that can bring the "ceiling" down are 1) Cost, 2) Insurance/Medicare Coverage, 3)Tolerability to side effects (arguably adult patients might be less willing to tolerate the GI impacts?) and 4) accessibility to a prescribing phyisican

One factor we have not yet heard about (I think) is how payors are behaving towards the "Ongoing Prior Authorisations", which are usually required for high cost therapies every 6- to 12- months. These re-authorisation can require the individual patient to show: 1) clinically meaningful benefit or disease stabilisation and 2) that the therapy is well tolerated, among other things. So while we know that 18-month persistency is 45%, this is a factor I am keen to follow to see how it evolves at the 24-month point. Initially, my simple model had persistency flattening out at 50%. So I will run some sensitivities on that.

My point is, it is a positive that the "front end" persistency is improving. And we are being proactively told about that. But I also hope we continue to be kept informed about tail-end persistency, whether for tolerability, compliance or payer drivers.

This is such a fascinating and multi-faceted business and there are a lot of moving parts. I guess that as I got sight of more of the puzzle pieces, I just started to lose my conviction in the strength of the DAYBUE base of my valuation.

$NEU is not the first time and it won't be the last investment when I take a "time out" to regather my thoughts. And I continue to get a lot from the perspectives of others on this forum. I was happy to take the risk fo selling because I think the really material upside SP catalysts relate to NNZ-2591 or to M&A. I think DAYBUE is becoming more of a known quantity, as far as the market is concerned. That said, an EU-EMA approval will be a SP catalyst, when it comes, in the coming months. I don't think Canada will impact that.

Lot's to mull over.

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SudMav
Added 4 weeks ago

Naive question here from someone with limited experience in this market.

With the extension to the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits not being approved as part of the shutdown, and the vote being up to the whim of the House is there a chance that users of the drug might get priced out of the market if no agreement is reached?

After doing some preliminary digging via Perplexity, it made mention that while there is not any blanket coverage under the ACA, there is the potential that specific insurance plans for the users could be through ACA marketplace plans. I did some further digging into the Arcadia Insurance Guide which makes reference to affordable health plans via Marketplace on the government healthcare website. My understanding is that Affordable plans are plans that comply with ACA rules (which was confirmed by Perplexity)

Putting this out there, is this another headwind that Arcadia could face in their North American business with new and existing customers, or am I likely to be overthinking this?

Keen to hear what other StrawPeople have to say.

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