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Ok, this is a “boring” large cap. Most of you probably wouldn’t pay much attention to it, same as me. I am going to make the case that you should take a look.

Intro

AMC is a big, global packaging company. They mainly do flexible and rigid packaging.60% is for “nutrition” (food and beverage), 25% for “health, beauty and wellness” and the remainder “speciality applications”. Around half of sales are in North America, 28% in Europe, the rest mostly in emerging markets.

The company was started in 1896 in Melbourne. It has grown both organically and by a series of acquisitions. Notably, Amcor pulled off a $US 6.8 billion merger/acquisition of Bemis (a North American packaging company) in 2018. This acquisition is widely regarded as having been successful, and delivered synergies in excess of the $180 million that was promised.

The latest deal is a similarly ambitious merger/acquisition of Berry, another packaging company, mostly in the US, but with a significant presence in Europe. It’s big, $US8.4 billion (equity) or $US13 billion (including debt). The deal went through on April 30 this year. Again, AMC management are promising synergies - $US650 million by fiscal 2028. Time will tell if they can deliver, the market appears to be sceptical.

Why is Amcor Cheap?


AMC is primarily listed in the US, but trades in Australia as CDIs. The current price is $12.60. That’s a little over 10 times management’s earnings guidance (the $US price is $8.30, earnings guidance is 80-83 cents US). The dividend yield is over 6% (unfranked).

You don’t get big companies for 10 times earnings without some warts. So what are they?

1. Synergies. The market is sceptical. But AMC has a successful history with acquisitions. Superficially, it makes sense that combining 2 big packaging companies, if you can get it past anti-trust regulators, will reduce costs and increase pricing power. I am inclined towards optimism here.

2. Debt. Net debt is US$13.3 billion, or around 3.5 times EBITDA. Yes this adds risk, but in the normal course of events it should be manageable

3. Earnings. Growth in earnings has been disappointing, particularly if you look at the graph since 2022. However, partly this is the same covid-induced stockpiling-destocking cycle that has affected a lot of companies. There is a decent chance that the reality going forward is less bad than what the market anticipates.

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4. Industry headwinds. If there was a push to move away from plastic packaging, this would obviously be bad for Amcor. However a quick look around my local supermarket suggests that this is unlikely anytime soon. Amcor is of course well aware of the risk and has various sustainability initiatives in place, including a commitment to use 10% recycled plastic by the end of 2025.

5 Index rebalancing. It has just been announced that AMC will be removed from the ASX 20 on December 22nd. So there will be some passive (dumb money) selling, with no regard to value. Anticipation of this by smart(er) money is probably responsible for a bit of recent share price weakness. Gifting you and me a slightly better short-term buying opportunity

Summary


So what we have is a big, multinational packaging company trading on a bit over 10x earnings guidance and paying a dividend of over 6%. As outlined above, I believe that the market concerns are overstated. There is a decent chance that earnings do ok from here, synergies largely get delivered and the current share price looks cheap a couple of years down the track. Even in a moderately disappointing scenario, the stock is cheap enough that you aren’t going to lose a lot of money.

A classic defensive value stock, with a margin of safety.



NB. Some great info in this article:

https://www.allangray.com.au/is-amcor-the-whole-package/

Goldfish
Added a month ago

I just bought some (around 3%) IRL

In addition to my earlier comments, not only is AMC undervalued, but also there are some clear potential catalysts for a re-rate:

  1. Volume growth normalises. Potential for packaging industry as a whole to revert to the mean. Also the final bit of unwinding of the overstocking/destocking cycle.
  2. Synergies are delivered. Currently the market pricing pretty much implies no synergies
  3. Debt-reducing asset sales

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Goldfish
Added a month ago

@Mujo

Thanks for the post.

I agree about point 1, volumes have been weak. While I do think that part of it may still be the overstocking hangover, it seems that the packaging industry generally is a bit challenged currently. Tariffs, trade wars, inflation and recession fears certainly won't have been helping.

Am I missing something re point 2? Amcor spun off its share in a N American rigid plastics joint venture (BCNA) for $122 million. That deal completed in Dec 24. I am not aware of any other pending asset sales, although there is talk of "exploring" asset sales of either the N American beverage business and/or other smaller non-core businesses, with no definite timeline.

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Mujo
Added a month ago

@Goldfish yes they are planning further divestments as well. They did two more smaller ones last quarter.

"As mentioned earlier, we've already entered into agreements to sell 2 smaller businesses. We continue to review strategic options to accelerate actions on noncore assets, and we anticipate additional actions this fiscal year. "

If you go back and reread the transcript from the annual results they had issues in the north american rigids division they had to fix first. They see it was a non-core as no growth - people aren't drinking as much soft drink as the old days given the health trend.

"North American beverage is now being run as a separate dedicated beverage business unit with new and focused management. We're addressing the operating challenges, and we will be improving efficiency across the network. Amcor's legacy specialty containers business is now integrated with the legacy Berry business in North America, confirming an excellent product and technology fit. And in Latin America, the legacy Rigid Packaging and Flexibles businesses are being combined to create scale and synergies in the region."

Article on sale - Sonoco's $725m ThermoSafe sale boosts Amcor’s divestment hopes | DataRoom

The deal comes as Amcor moves forward on sale plans for its $US1.5bn North American drinks packaging business.

Amcor – one of the largest packaging companies in the world – announced the sale of the unit while delivering its results last month and it comes after its $13bn acquisition of Berry Global Group last year.

Two of its key clients are PepsiCo, which faces competition from rival Coca-Cola, and Gatorade.

The credit rating agencies are expecting them as they should technically be below IG now with their current debt load.

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Mujo
Added a month ago

Agree i like it as a defensive - $0.20 per quarter dividend why you wait too.

I think the market is unhappy that:

  1. volumes have been weak, with concern about recession especially with the inflation in the US at the grocery store.
  2. The sale of the north American rigids business has been delayed, as the key to deleverage.
  3. The kick last week was the index changes.


Contrary to the market, they will be cycling easier comps in 2026 and they did indicate margins could improve. However, we get plenty of earnings growth assuming the synergies come through. A catalyst would be the sale of the north American rigids business assuming a decent price - talk of a possible joint venture spin off given the size, it's just timing. I think the debt is really the major wart and the concern. The lower US interest rates and tight credit spreads are helping - even though it is still IG debt.

I don’t think plastics are an issue, AMC is the leader in developing new materials like fibre - they’re the ones that would lead the change. In the current environment, outside of europe, it’s definitely not a major issue it seems for governments. Pre Berry they had all packaging recyclable by this year - 25.

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