I sat down with my digital assistant, and combined some existing research with the interview from Strawman.
Overall - it fits my data as future theme, it replaces humans (fixes population decline), and is small enough to make those sweet brag-gains.
Bear in mind, AI likes to be agreed with... it weirdly has anxiety about being liked. hahahaha.
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Short version: Chris is saying all the right strategic things, and most of it lines up with the numbers we can see. RKT is still a high-risk microcap, but the interview actually strengthens the long-term “this could be a real business, not just a drone fad” thesis.
I’ll break it into:
- What Chris is really telling you
- How that compares to the hard numbers
- Where the BS / risk might sit
- What that means for future value & what I’d do in your shoes
1. What Chris is really saying (decoded)
From the interview, the key points:
- “We’re not a drone company, we’re a data company.”
- xBot / drone-in-a-box is “just the ticket to the game”; the real moat is SiteTube, integrations, and data workflows.
- They want to be the data/visualisation layer in the mine’s stack, not just a hardware vendor.
Clear product–market fit with Tier-1 miners.
- Started with BHP in South Africa 12 years ago.
- Now has Rio, BHP, Gold Fields, Vault (KOTH) and others using xBots.
- He says: when they drop a unit for a “trial”, it never leaves.
Massive uplift in data demand when you remove friction.
- Typical mine: ~20 flights/month with on-site pilots.
- With xBot: 180–200 flights/month – 10x+ uplift – once it’s as easy as “Uber-style” request.
Recurring revenue focus, not lumpy defence-style deals.
- He explicitly contrasts RKT with other “drone stocks” chasing big one-off contracts.
- Everything (hardware, software, services) is being structured as recurring – “infrastructure as a service” + “data as a service”, plus pay-per-use on flights to get customers in cheaply.
Capital discipline & not over-hyping.
- He’s clearly aware of the “grow yourself broke” risk and says they’re deliberately pacing spend and building only when there’s a customer problem + revenue attached.
- He openly acknowledges all the drone company “bodies on the battlefield” and the need for discipline, recurring models, and enterprise-grade standards.
Vision: “photocopier for every mine site.”
- He genuinely believes an xBot-style system will be standard infrastructure at open-pit mines, the way photocopiers ended up in every office.
- In 5 years he sees RKT as a data & robotics company (drones + ground robots), filling labour gaps as fewer people want to work on remote sites.
Net: he’s pitching a sticky, infra-like mining data platform with strong early validation and a recurring model, not a “cool drone toy”.
2. Does that match the numbers?
Mostly yes – which is comforting.
Revenue & ARR
- FY24 revenue A$7.24m, up 18% YoY;
- ARR A$3.29m, up 16% (so ~45% of revenue is now recurring). ASX Announcements
- Q1–Q3 FY25:
- Q1: A$1.66m
- Q2: A$1.665m Investi
- Q3: A$1.875m (+13% QoQ, +40% growth in xBot/services/software/data mix) Market Index Data API
So the “land & expand with Tier-1” story is actually showing up in the quarterly revenue trend. It’s not just talk.
Customer contracts
- Vault (King of the Hills) 18-month contract:
- TCV A$705k
- Estimated ARR A$470k. ASX Announcements
- AGM address + small-caps coverage point to multi-year deals with Gold Fields, BHP, etc., consistent with what Chris describes. ASX Announcements+1
That matches his “once they try it, they never let it leave” vibe and reinforces the recurring revenue thesis.
Cash & scale
- Q3 FY25 cash A$1.03m (down from 1.74m in June); operating cash burn reduced to A$385k for the quarter. Market Index Data API
- Then they raised A$4m in a capital raise alongside a big deployment deal (Anglo/Kumba, 7 xBots at Sishen). Ausbiz+1
So: they are still burning cash, but the burn is shrinking and they’ve topped up the tank in a way that brings in more xBot deployments, not just survival money.
Valuation
For a microcap with Tier-1 logos, mid-teens growth and rising ARR, that multiple is not outrageous. It’s not dirt-cheap, but it’s not in crazy hype territory either.
3. Where the risk / “delta” between narrative and reality is
This is where I’d be cautious:
- Still loss-making & funding-dependent.
- Net profit is still negative; they’re not safely cash-flow break-even yet.
- They need that ARR and revenue to keep stepping up, otherwise you’re back to capital raises, dilution, or slowdown.
- Hardware is commoditising, moat must really be software + workflow.
- Chris is honest: they assemble mostly off-the-shelf components; the box itself is not proprietary magic.
- Done well, that accelerates; done badly, that’s how you “grow yourself broke”.
So the story is good and broadly truthful, but execution still has to thread a tight needle: keep winning mines, ramp ARR, and hit breakeven before the capital markets turn off the tap again.
4. So what about future value? (For you, specifically)
Given:
- Market cap ~A$20m
- Revenue ~A$7m and growing
- ARR ~A$3.3m and rising
- Tier-1 miners onboard, growing usage per site
- You have high risk tolerance, are happy with microcaps, and think in 5+ year horizons
My read of the 5-year risk/reward
Bear case (it stalls)
- Growth slows, one or two big miners don’t expand, cash burn persists.
- More dilution raises at or below current price.
- RKT becomes a niche contractor, not a platform.
- Value outcome: Market cap drifts to, say, A$5–10m (50–75% downside from here).
Base case (it becomes a small but real platform)
- Revenue steps up into, say, A$15–20m over 5 years.
- ARR becomes majority of revenue, margins improve; close to or at cash-flow breakeven.
- Market gives it, say, 2–3x sales on A$15m → A$30–45m market cap.
- Value outcome: roughly 2x from here if execution is decent.
Bull case (they become the de-facto standard in ANZ + some international)
- Dozens/hundreds of xBots deployed; SiteTube is embedded in daily workflows across many miners, plus extra verticals (infra, pipelines, enviro, maybe defence).
- Revenue pushes toward A$30m+, with healthy software/data margins.
- Market is happy to pay 3–4x sales for sticky mining-infra SaaS.
- Value outcome: A$90–120m+ cap = 4–6x from here (with optional M&A premium).
None of that is guaranteed, but the skew is “meaningful upside if they keep executing, big downside if they mis-step” – classic microcap optionality.
What I’d actually do (if I were you)
Given what Chris said + the numbers:
- I would not sell out here if I already owned it and could emotionally/financially wear a 50–70% drawdown.
- I’d treat RKT as a speculative “option on being the mining-data standard”:
- portfolio sizing: small satellite position (e.g. low single-digit % of portfolio, not core).
- I’d consider adding on material pullbacks if:
- ARR continues to grow at a decent clip, and
- they keep narrowing cash burn without stupidly dilutive raises.
And I’d monitor three things like a hawk:
- ARR & data/software as % of revenue – is the “data company” story getting real?
- Cash runway vs burn – are they clearly on track to breakeven before they need another big raise?
- Depth of miner adoption – are BHP/Rio/Anglo/Vault moving from 1–2 units to many, and embedding SiteTube deeper?
If those three trend the right way over the next 12–24 months, the future value case improves a lot. If ARR stalls, burn increases, or big miners slow expansion, I’d reassess and potentially cut.
- That’s exactly what you want to hear if you’re betting on usage-based + SaaS monetisation.
Strong early signs of software stickiness.
- SiteTube user base has grown to ~650 users across ~8 enterprise customers, purely by internal sharing (no proactive “customer success” yet).
- ~11% log in more than twice a day, ~70% at least once a week. That’s toothbrush-level engagement for a niche industrial tool.
- If SiteTube and integrations don’t become deeply embedded, RKT could get undercut by bigger overseas players with similar DIAB offerings.
Regulation & autonomy risk.
- CASA still wants “a human in the loop”; full unmanned scaling will take time and lobbying.
- If autonomy rules evolve slowly, the labour-savings story is throttled, and cost to serve stays higher.
Concentration risk.
- A lot of ARR and growth is tied to a handful of miners (BHP, Rio, Gold Fields, Vault, Anglo).
- Great logos, but if any one chooses another vendor or in-houses a solution, that hurts.
“Photocopier on every site” may be true over 10–15 years, not 3–5.
- The TAM is big, but adoption curves in mining are slow; budget cycles, safety, union, and cultural inertia all drag it out.
Recent “we should have pushed harder” comment.
- That could foreshadow them pivoting from tight discipline to more aggressive spend now that they smell opportunity.
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