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Pinned straw:

Added a month ago

The recording of our meeting with Tim Levy is now on the meetings page and you can access the transcript here: Qoria Transcript.pdf

It's an interesting business that certainly seems to be going from strength to strength on the revenue front -- which has doubled in the last 3 years. Of course, a lot of that is to do with acquisitions and has meant a lot of share dilution. But they are tipping into profitability and, as Tim explained, they made the strategic decision to fuel growth via acquisition because they felt the opportunity to capture and secure market share would otherwise pass them by.

With the company presently going through the Aura merger, which isn't set to be completed until some time mid-2026, and with the usual need to bed things down, it may be a little while before we get a clean read on how it's all worked out.

Still, if you are of the view that the merger delivers most of what it claims to (such as a $55m cost out), there's probably an arbitrage opportunity. EG. if you use the implied equity value based on the scrip deal (which itself rests on a 6.6 ARR multiple), QOR should be valued at 72c or so, well above the current price of 30c. The market is obviously skeptical, but therein lies the opportunity i guess.


Here is an AI-produced summary of the meeting:

Interview Summary: Qoria (ASX: QOR)


Business Overview & Technology

  • Core Mission: Qoria is a global provider of online safety and student wellbeing services, protecting roughly 30 million children across 32,000 schools.
  • Product Suite: The company uses a "hybrid architecture" that includes browser extensions, mobile apps for parents, classroom management tools for teachers, and hardware appliances for school networks.
  • Unique Selling Point: Unlike competitors who focus only on one area, Qoria offers an integrated "ecosystem" where schools and parents can collaborate on a child’s digital safety. They are currently the only player offering a seamless handoff between school and parental control.


Market Dynamics & Growth

  • US Expansion: Qoria has captured 20% of the US student market in just five years, driven by a shift toward account-based marketing and targeting "lighthouse" school districts.
  • Sales Strategy: The business leverages a "Trojan Horse" entry point by selling compliance-based filtering to Chief Technology Officers (CTOs). Once a trial is established, they see a 85-90% conversion rate.
  • Regulatory Drivers: Demand is heavily fueled by legal requirements for schools to protect students, such as CIPA in the US and "Keeping Children Safe in Education" in the UK.


Acquisitions & Integration

  • Strategic M&A: The company has grown significantly through acquisitions, most notably Smoothtool in 2021. This allowed them to "speed run" development and market capture.
  • Unification Progress: After previously struggling with fragmented code bases, Qoria now has a dedicated unification team focused on integrating their various products into a single user interface and platform.
  • Aura Merger: Qoria is currently undergoing a merger with the Aura Group. The merged entity is expected to list on the ASX in June under the code XQ, with Aura providing a $75 million USD capital injection.


AI Opportunities & Risks

  • Filtering Stability: Management views AI more as an opportunity than a threat. They believe startups cannot easily disrupt the "high-trust" compliance market where schools require long-term reliability and risk transfer.
  • Classroom Disruption: The biggest long-term question mark is classroom management. If classrooms become entirely AI-driven, the company is working with regulators to ensure they have interoperable access to monitor and moderate those environments.


Leadership & Outlook

  • Founding Vision: The business was inspired by the personal experiences of the founders with family-related mental health and bullying issues.
  • Management Transition: Following the Aura merger, Tim Levy will serve as Managing Director, while Aura’s founder will transition to Chairman.
  • Financial Inflection: The company currently has over $100 million USD in annualized recurring revenue (ARR) and is reaching a point of free cash flow generation.


edgescape
Added a month ago

Just a note this used to be called Family Zone and has been around for nearly a decade. So not really a new company and Tim has been around the same amount of time.

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Randy
Added a month ago

Hi Strawman

Thanks for arranging the Qoria interview – was my first time tuning in to the company.

Obviously they have a good product and execution is going well – especially in the US market with some very strong growth (from zero to 20% of students in USA in past 4-5 years). Also like that its typically very sticky revenue once their in (interesting stats of winning 45-50% of pitches with schools once able to present their product, and retaining 85-90% I think once schools have adopted their product). In a competitive market I think that’s pretty impressive, and speaks to their products being comprehensive in function & liked by their customers.

Obviously approaching inflection point of cash flow breakeven soon (given strong CAGR in revenue), and they clearly have to continue investing reasonably heavily at this point to stay at the front of the pack in what’s reminiscent of the early Amazon / Tech giants digital real estate grab (i.e. become the go-to name in your key markets, and profitability can follow once your platform is in all these places). Always tricky trying to ascertain where operating profitability will settle once the market matures & aggressive product roll-out stage settles.

Anyway – while I like their product offering & growth rates – they are a tricky company to pin a value on (especially while we’re in the SaaS bloodbath & risk-off mode). It is worth noting even the merged entity is only forecast to hit cash-flow breakeven this financial year (FY26). So again – much of the company’s implied value depends heavily on where one thinks profitability will settle with time (and how much ongoing investment will be required to continue to drive their strong growth rates).

Some Rough Merger Maths

Having reflected on it I think the company’s share price will be dominated in the next few months by the Aura merger. Given Aura’s a private company – its not easy to get a MTM value on the company currently. However their last funding round 12 months ago (Aura scores $140M, boosting valuation to $1.6B | MobiHealthNews) valued them at US$1.6Bn (around $2.28-2.29Bn AUD at 70c FX rate) – and they valued Qoria at just under $1Bn AUD at 72c merger price. That said this has clearly been crunched (29c = $390M Mkt Cap) – and one has to assume Aura’s value will likewise have been dented if it was to go to market for new funding.

Combined business was touted/valued at Merger announcement at AUD$3Bn, with Qoria to make up 35% of post-merger issued capital, including some Aura shareholders precommitted to throwing in US$75 of additional funding for the newly merged entity.

Qoria shareholders to receive 1 new Aura CDI for every 17.2 QOR shares they hold – so at post—merger implies an AXQ (new listed Aura) shareprice of $4.99 or 40% of the merger-announced combined entity of $3Bn at a theoretical SP of A$12.38. Now while I’m sure the early figures included a fair bit of hot air & puff, I doubt they were inflated by 60%.

So on a quick layman’s pass – I do believe Qoria represents reasonable buying at these levels, but doubt the market will reflect this in the current SaaSpocalypse, and until the merger has taken place & first clean set of merged entity numbers provided. The cost-out figures you mentioned are probably the low-hanging fruit, provided they can be achieved without hurting the product or service.

I do think they are very much operating in a tech industry where eventually only the big will survive – so believe they’re making the right play consolidating to have the financial muscle & scale to pony up to the other big boys (by memory = Lightspeed Systems, High Speed Guardian, Bloxy, etc).

On my watchlist – will probably go shopping if they drop any further towards 25-27c will probably prove irresistible.

One to keep a quiet watch on.

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Strawman
Added a month ago

Well said @Randy, and glad you could join the call.

It's definitely not without its risks.

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GazD
Added a month ago

Apologies to @Strawman in the chaos of life I missed the meeting I’d requested and posted a question after you ran the interview. What a klutz. Look forward to viewing the interview nonetheless. The merger certainly changed things up for me and made me more circumspect about gaining some understanding before I buy into what is at least half a different business now…

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