Forum Topics SPACE X IPO
mikebrisy
Added a month ago

SpaceX Valuation

I came across a detailed valuation of SpaceX by Prof. Aswath Damodaran (the valuation guru at NYU Stern School of Business). It is a revistation of an initial valuation, attempted prior to the release of the IPO Prospectus.

Revisiting the SpaceX Valuation

As it is quite involved and I am not seriously considering investing in it, I asked my BA Claude to do a brief summary of the article, which I found helpful, so I thought to share here as several StrawPeople have indicated interest in this IPO.


Revisiting the SpaceX Valuation: A Post-prospectus update!


A summary by Claude.ai based on the full article posted on LinkedIn


Context

This is an update to his April 2026 pre-prospectus valuation, which had pegged SpaceX at roughly $1.2 trillion using leaked/unofficial data ($15.5bn revenue, $8bn EBITDA). With the 277-page prospectus (filed 20 May 2026) now public, he splits the update into a mechanical "data" refresh and a more consequential "story" revision. His overarching framing: for a young company, value is driven by total market size and unit economics — found mostly in the footnotes — not by the reported bottom line.

Data update (the mechanical part)

The financials largely confirmed his estimates rather than surprising him:

  • Revenue ~$15.5bn (2025), growing about a third YoY. His launch and connectivity (Starlink) estimates were close; he had understated xAI revenue.
  • Operating loss of $2.57bn (he'd estimated $2bn). With ~$2bn of previously-invisible interest expense, the net loss was ~$5bn. Stripping out R&D (which he argues should be capitalised) gives roughly $4bn of earnings before interest, tax and R&D.
  • Balance sheet: book equity jumped to $41.3bn (from his $20bn guess) on the xAI acquisition; total debt incl. leases $22.9bn; cash $24.7bn — so net debt is −$1.9bn (net cash). He notes the debt is immaterial against a ~$1.2tn enterprise value anyway.
  • Share count: prospectus reports a 12,535m basic share count (vs. his earlier back-out of 2,467m), excluding the IPO shares and still-redacted employee RSUs.
  • IPO: estimated $75bn raised, held as cash for infrastructure investment (adds to firm value but not enterprise value).
  • Governance: dual-class structure (6,932m Class A at 1 vote; 5,602m Class B at 10 votes, all held by Musk) gives Musk >85% of voting rights.


Story update (where value actually moves)

He revises three drivers — target revenue, target margin, reinvestment — across the three businesses:

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On the AI TAM, he flatly rejects the prospectus figure: it claims a $28tn total TAM with $26tn from AI — which he calls "borderline fantasy," likening it to gamified TAMs in the Uber ($5.7tn) and Airbnb ($3.4tn) IPOs. He uses ~$3–4tn for AI instead. The Colossus compute centre, leased to Anthropic at $1.25bn/month, is flagged as a near-term revenue/margin support (and a potential future conflict if xAI competes with Anthropic).

Reinvestment rises across the board — lower sales-to-capital ratios near-term for space and connectivity, and a surge for AI to fund the tripled revenue target. Total 2025 capex was ~$14bn and R&D ~$9bn, roughly double 2024.


Updated valuation

He also lifts the discount rate, since the 10-year Treasury rose 4.20%→4.56%: initial WACC 8.02%→8.37%, steady-state 8.00%→8.25% (both near the US median).

Netting the offsetting changes (higher space margins and bigger AI market push up; slower near-term growth and the lower AI margin push down):

  • Enterprise value: $1.21tn → $1.22tn
  • Equity value: ~$1.3tn, with almost all the lift coming from the $75bn IPO cash inflow
  • ~$100/share, pending RSU disclosure — versus a reported $135/share offer price (~$1.8tn pricing)


His stated fair-value range is $1.25–$1.35tn.


Conclusion and stance


The prospectus made the story "bigger but also more volatile." His chief concern is overreach in AI — overestimating the market and xAI's competitive position, then committing tens of billions more capex on that misjudgement — a risk amplified because the voting structure leaves shareholders unable to restrain Musk.

As a self-described investor (not trader), he considers $1.8tn too rich and won't buy at the offer — but, citing post-IPO drops at Facebook and Uber, he won't short either, given unpredictable momentum. He pointedly argues that rejecting SpaceX because it loses money or trades at 100x revenue is "lazy"; the defensible bear case rests on disagreeing about market size, margins, or governance.


Disc: Not held and not intending to, other than via my passive US and global funds.

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tomsmithidg
Added a month ago

I listened to an episode of 'The Money Cafe' this morning where they discussed that the Space X opportunity might be around data centres in space. Cooling done by the cold of space, solar power from the sun. It got me wondering if that could actually be a thing, and if so, Space X is sure to be the first to do it. Maybe there could actually be opportunity in the float after all.

They also mentioned that Anthropic has actually become profitable, I wonder if that makes it the best value of the impending big 3 IPOs.

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ApplePark
Added a month ago

Look, I'm no physicist or engineer, just a humble science grad, but my understanding is that its about energy and not cooling things down.

Space is very cold, but its a vacuum and so theres nothing to transfer the heat to. The heat can only dissipate via radiation and radiation in space will require large surface areas. Solar energy on the other hand would be 24/7 and highly efficient because theres no atmosphere in the way.

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Karmast
Added a month ago

Interesting @mikebrisy

I haven't spent any time looking at these IPO's because old Warren summed it up perfectly in my view -



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And to put the cherry on top, as Charlie often said - "I have nothing to add".


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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Karmast I’ve always felt that way, and I couldn’t be further from those fabled investors. Why would I buy part of a business from someone who, knowing infinitely more about it than I do, has agreed to sell it to me for $X?

And that’s before adding that the "someone" retains 85% of the voting rights while holding only 42% of the equity.

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Bushmanpat
Added a month ago

I was reading an article in the Economist which wasn't entirely flattering of the IPO. Some of the more notable points it mentioned;

Fidelity lowered their minimum account balance from $100,000 - $500,00 to $2,000 so retail investors could get in.

Goldman Sachs was expecting SpaceX revenue to go from $3bn in 2025 to $332bn in 2030, based on Grok, which is an also ran in the AI space.

Morgan Stanley was saying by 2040 SpaceX could be raking in $3.4trn in sales and $2.7trn in operating profit.

But these advisors were probably getting 0.75% of the deal, which is about $500m.

I'm happy to watch this from the peanut gallery, but I'm afraid that my super (industry fund) will be forced to get sucked in at some point. Hopefully not to a meaningful level.

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Tom73
Added a month ago

While staying well away from the mania around the Space X IPO, it is on my “like to own at right price” list. The hard part is the “right price” which I don’t expect to have any idea on for at least a year, but the below video put one key value proposition into perspective for further review and understanding.

What Is SpaceX ACTUALLY Worth?

As big as SPACE is, there are limited high commercial value spots, and Space X has a first mover advantage and the combination of its rocket capacity and Starlink place holder satellites could be a critical monopoly value. If the whole data centres in space thing works and it’s important where they sit or link to then prime space-estate is close to a winner take all factor.

Back to looking at things I currently have a chance of understanding!

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Bushmanpat
Added 4 weeks ago

I did see somewhere that it was described as cheap on a price to cosmos ratio.

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Karmast
Added 4 weeks ago

That’s very funny!

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Lewis
Added 4 weeks ago

Alan Kohler firing on all cylinders this morning: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-15/elon-musk-space-x-trillions/106796484

The company had IPOed a few days earlier for $US1.77 trillion, almost exactly 1,000 times Tesla, and ended up trading 20 per cent higher on day one for a valuation of $US2.1 trillion ($3 trillion) — about the same as the total value of all companies on the ASX or all houses and apartments in Victoria.

Elon Musk is the first trillionaire, knocking off King Croesus of what's now Turkey (550BC) and the previous richest person in history, Mansa Musa of Mali (1,300AD).

To get a sense of the difference between the Tesla and SpaceX IPOs, consider that 1.7 billion seconds ago was 1972, when Elton John released the prescient Rocket Man, while 1.7 trillion seconds ago was 52,000BC, when we shared the planet with Neanderthals.

So is SpaceX worth $3 trillion?

Of course not, nowhere near it. The company is basically a good internet company with an unprofitable rocket business and a substandard AI chatbot, and it loses money.


P.S Quite funny that spell check is underlying "trillionaire", and suggesting "did you mean billionaire, millionaire or trillion?". Apparently we've never needed that word until now.  

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mikebrisy
Added 4 weeks ago

@Lewis spare a thought for all the world's billionaires and their loss of self-esteem. I mean, they used to belong to the world's most exclusive wealth club. But now, they are strictly seocnd tier. This is an historic moment, not seen since 26 September 1916 when JD Rockefeller because the world's first billionaire.

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Lewis
Added 4 weeks ago

Haha, it makes my heart ache just thinking about it @mikebrisy. All of those remuneration committees need to take a good hard look at themselves. We should start a GoFundMe.

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Noddy74
Added a month ago

I came across this graph in a substack I was reading this morning. The dislocation between public and private markets is incredible, but SpaceX is in out of this world. [insert rocket emoji here]

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Bushmanpat
Added a month ago

@Noddy74 But if you compare SpaceX to Tesla (which currently has a P/E of 330) then SpaceX is yet to benefit from the Musk Premium. That's a 3x upside!

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Noddy74
Added a month ago

That's a good comparison @Bushmanpat but I think you're comparing apples and oranges a bit as the graph is listing price-to-sales. Tesla's price-to-sales is more like 14x (on a Last Twelve Months basis). I would agree, however, that is still egregious considering its anemic growth and meagre margins.

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Bushmanpat
Added a month ago

@Noddy74 my bad for not reading the fine print.

Still not likely to invest in either though.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when the index funds have to sell everything else to buy this as it debuts in, most likely, the top 10 or even top 5. What will happen if there is no buyer for the rest of the index being dumped given they're a major player now?

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RogueTrader
Added a month ago

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raymon68
Added 2 months ago

SpaceX’s Starship V3 erupts in massive fireball after successful test flight | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

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The aerospace company confirmed the fireball as Ship 39 splashed down in the Indian Ocean was pre-planned.

Plan the vessel was not being reused!

The initial public offering (IPO) is set to be the largest in Wall Street history, with a target valuation of up to $1.75 trillion.


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RogueTrader
Added a month ago

Well that seemed to go well for Elon (now the world's first TRILLIONAIRE btw).

Pic of Elon looking pleased but modest:

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From James "Rev Shark" DePorre :

The indices followed through to the upside on Friday but the largest IPO in history sucked up most of the energy. SpaceX opened at $150, $15 higher than the IPO price, hit an intraday high of $176.52 and then closed weak at around $161. Intraday chasers who were looking for sustained momentum were trapped and some were forced to bail out.

The SpaceX Debut

Overall it was a successful offering. Many on Wall Street were pleased that it didn’t turn into a frenzy and the intraday lows were never tested after the open. Some day traders may not have done too well but that isn’t all bad. The initial excitement will wear off quickly and we will start to hear some critical analysis about valuation.

The biggest danger is that only a small number of SpaceX (SPCX) shares are currently trading. Most of the float will be unlocked in the next six months so there will be plenty of supply. When that is combined with two giant AI IPOs that are coming soon, the issue of liquidity is going to be front and center in the months ahead.

Iran Hopes Help the Market

The other big issue that helped the market was continued optimism that a deal with Iran is finally coming. President Trump indicated that he expects a deal to be signed this weekend or Monday in Europe. Iran continued to issue the usual denials but this time they added they are closer to a deal than ever before. Oil markets seem to believe that a deal is likely as the United States Oil Fund (USO) moved to its lowest levels since April 21.

The big event next week will be the Federal Reserve interest rate decision on June 17. The new Fed head, Kevin Warsh, is stepping in. Lower oil prices will remove some of the pressure on him to raise rates but it will be interesting to see his posture in his first press conference as chairman.

SpaceX Has a Solid Launch But Doesn’t Reach Orbit | TheStreet Pro

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Jimmy
Added 4 months ago

Lots of chatter lately on the anticipated announcement of a Space X IPO expected sometime very soon. Apparently it'll be the largest and most sort after IPO in history which suggests it maybe difficult to get hold of any shares on offer let alone at a reasonable price.

I've been buying a few shares in PE1 for at least some exposure if I miss out in the IPO. For anyone interested the following is an extract from PE1's most recent performance update:

SpaceX is currently PE1’s largest underlying portfolio company exposure, comprising almost 14% of the Trust’s private markets exposure.

Founded by Elon Musk in 2002, SpaceX is the world’s leading commercial space company, designing, building, and launching reusable rockets and spacecraft while operating one of the largest satellite broadband networks, Starlink.

The company’s launch business is the dominant player in the market and its satellite internet service, Starlink, has nearly 10,000 satellites in orbit and continues to gain customers at a high rate.

The company's strong positioning in launch and space has also created several new business opportunities, including potential data centres in space. In December, the company conducted a secondary share sale at a valuation of approximately US$800 billion, representing a doubling in valuation from the previous mark.

In February, SpaceX merged with xAI, consolidating all the AI-related infrastructure (including the Grok AI tool) into SpaceX ahead of a highly anticipated IPO that is expected to be at a much higher valuation.

The deal valued the combined entity at approximately US$1.25 trillion, which is in excess of PE1’s current valuation for SpaceX of US$800 billion. 


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Jimmy
Added 3 months ago

A little sooner than expected but nonetheless the IPO process begins for anyone interested:


SpaceX has filed its S‑1 with the SEC, meaning the IPO process is formally underway.

Expected listing window around June 2026, depending on regulatory review and market conditions.

The IPO is expected to be the biggest ever, surpassing Saudi Aramco’s 2019 record.

Valuation target: ~$1.75 trillion.

• Capital raise: ~$75 billion — unprecedented for a U.S. IPO.

• Business mix: rockets, Starlink, and now AI (after merging with xAI).

• Index impact: SpaceX could enter the Nasdaq‑100 within weeks due to new fast‑entry rules.

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Tom73
Added 3 months ago

If you are interested in the Space X IPO make sure you go through a broker you know and can verify it’s legitimate.

A few years ago I had a call from a very posh English accented “broker” from Hong Kong trying to get me to buy into the Space X IPO… which I knew there wasn’t one.

Scammers will be pumping out emails, ads, etc like crazy around this!

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Shapeshifter
Added 2 months ago

Anyone thinking of participating in this should watch this first:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IHD8BDFYyGI&t=559s&pp=2AGvBJACAQ==


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lastever
Added 2 months ago

I watched this one too@Shapeshifter Patrick Boyle is the funniest finance commentator on YouTube. Even though I respect his work ethic, Musk's fundraising techniques seem shameless.

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Schwerms
Added 2 months ago

It's alarming isn't it, forced index buying so whoever needs to exit can.

Good bailout for his twitter investors as well, rolled up into spaceX so they can bail out.

I heard about the NASDAQ 100 index inclusion timing change and thought it was suss.

Sounds like it will list, retail will APE into it combined with index buying.

Everyone will realise how much more raising is required and it will drop like a stone with the cash burn.

Interesting they claim the TAM is mostly AI and the main revenue they have is leading compute to Anthropic that can terminate with 90 says notice.

SpaceX won't use grok because it's shit yet that is a huge part of the TAM in the prospectus.

Interested to see how this one goes

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reddogaustin
Added 2 months ago

Oh my! The longer one watches this viedo, the more ones jaw hits the floor.

The whole thing is all very concerning, primarily because I have some ETFs that will forced to have exposure in the fast track timeline. Ruh roh!

Thanks for the great video @Shapeshifter

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Schwerms
Added 2 months ago

Watch the one on MicroStrategy...

Different topic but leads down a bit of a Bitcoin rabbit hole

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RogueTrader
Added 2 months ago

Personally I'm suspicious of any company that plans to blast the majority of its inventory into outer space...

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actionman
Added 2 months ago

ComSec sent me an email : We are writing to inform you of the potential upcoming initial public offering of Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (“SpaceX”) Class A Common Stock (“IPO”) that may become accessible through Commonwealth Securities Limited (“CommSec”).


Since then they have a notice on the app says they are experiencing very high volumes through the call Centre so give help instructions on how to sign up for international trading. Must be popular?

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Tom73
Added 2 months ago

Fee-ding frenzy on retail investors

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Lewis
Added 2 months ago

It's one small step for man...one giant leap, for exit liquidity.

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Shapeshifter
Added 2 months ago

Very true @Lewis . The Twitter investors are licking their lips at this off ramp

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Lewis
Added 2 months ago

I think he has to outrun the debt monster and slowdown on tesla too, this will open up a whole new world to borrow against. Im sure there is some ego involved also. Regardless of whether it goes to the moon or blows up on the launchpad, it's going to be one hell of a story.

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