Forum Topics SP3 SP3 Spectur Ltd General Discussion
Timocracy
Added 2 years ago

Noting that Spectur is doing the rounds through some brokerage company at the moment. I haven't had a chance to take one of the calls but voicemail indicates there may some sort of cap raise on offer.

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bjbart
Added 2 years ago

Not the first time

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thunderhead
Added 2 years ago

So you're saying we should front run the impending raise and sell? :D

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Timocracy
Added 2 years ago

@thunderhead not personal advice, but yes. Lol. I have no idea. I have a distressing recollection of being offered a great price on 4DS shares recently. If I had placed the $6k order, I think there would have been a near doubling within a few months.


Theeeeeeeeen it went south and I would have had to wipe my tears with Monopoly money instead of $100 bills.

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Colflan
Added 2 years ago

Thanks for info @Timocracy, I got a voicemail from someone claiming to represent the company too. At first, I assumed it was a scam, but was a little intrigued by how they got my details. Once I realised it was above board, I listened to what they had to say. Which wasn't much, they didn't really push anything. Just called to see if I'd been following the company announcements and if I had any questions. This is the first time a company I've invested in has called me - I found it all very strange.

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Timocracy
Added 2 years ago

@Colflan Very interesting indeed. My understanding it is still a third party representing the company though, yes? Would be different if the CEO left me a voicemail I think.

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Colflan
Added 2 years ago

@Timocracy, definitely a third party.

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thunderhead
Added 2 years ago

It's so tricky in small cap land. So many pitfalls and landmines, with something blowing up seemingly every other day.

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Muddled
Added 2 years ago

Totally agree with that, I'm experiencing many more blow-ups than rockets at the moment. Lots of deep breaths here!

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Timocracy
Added 2 years ago

How many shares would get me a board seat?

I’ve pondered this for a little while. Micro/nano cap companies and taking the approach of putting in $50k - $100k at a price less than 1x sales (or 1x profits even, lol why not) and curious if that would ever be a big enough stake to take a board seat and influence the company to head in a direction that could benefit shareholders.

That is assuming the skills, knowledge and patience to do so. It’s not all about money.

Kind of like coming in as microscopic private equity. Buying a chunk of the business then helping scale so I end up with a $2bil dividend like twiggy at FMG.

Spectur could be small enough.

Thoughts?

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bjbart
Added 2 years ago

A few Straw folk could Chip in and get you on the board. Be interesting to see how it goes.

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Bear77
Added 2 years ago

In my experience, if a board had 4 or 5 directors including the Chairperson, and somebody bought 20% or more, they would likely get a seat on the board if they requested one. As a general rule of thumb, if you control half the company, you get to nominate half the directors, 20% would get you one fifth of the board, and so on. 10% of the company doesn't really guarantee anything, but if it was a large company, and it had 9 or more board members, you might get one director on the board. But that director would generally have to have some relevant experience and be seen as an asset rather than an extra head to pay fees to. But every case is probably different I guess.

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bjbart
Added 2 years ago

Out of interest, I was camping in Kakadu in the NT the other week and noticed a couple of Spectur units on remote roads. I think someone here had a knock on the aesthetics of the units. I can you that they look pretty much just like a small light pole. Quite discreet. I just noticed the sticker on the unit with the company logo on it otherwise I would’ve driven right past without noticing the thing at all. Maybe the close up photos on the website makes them look strange but in reality they’re quite nonchalant.

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Bear77
Added 5 years ago

07-May-2020:  5:37PM CST:  Just to add to @saltybeef's #Substantial Holders straw for SP3 (Spectur), which went like this:

  • 5 May 20: EGP Capital become a substantial holder briefly and then ceased to enable a sell down from the previous CEO.  This has removed an overhang of shares.  EGP is positive about the long term nature of its investment but it is too small market cap for EGP.

That's saying something, because the median market capitalisation of the positions held within EGP's Concentrated Value Fund (CVF) was only $61.8m on April 30th - and 41.8% of the fund was invested in companies with market caps of up to $50m - as shown on the lower half of page 6 of their latest monthly report, sent out this week.  It might sound like Tony has a very high risk appetite with that sort of portfolio but I would actually suggest the opposite is true.  He does an enormous amount of DD on companies before investing in them, and he always demands a significant margin of safety.  He still gets the occasional land mine (like KPT) when something unexpected comes out of left field (like more than half of KI getting burned out by bushfires), but the vast majority of his investments do pay off handsomely for him - eventually.  Knowing that (because I follow Tony Hansen and his fund), I had to check just how big Spectur (SP3) was.  Commsec says... $5.22m.  Fair enough then! 

I think a $5m company is probably too small for ANY fund manager, and probably too small for most retail investors as well.  Liquidity IS an issue for them.  There was only one trade today in SP3 shares, and the total value of that trade was just under $308.  On Friday (1-Apr-2020), the total value of SP3 shares traded was $930 (being 15,000 shares @ 6.2c each).  To be fair, they usually trade quite a bit more than that, but there are certainly days where the volume is pretty negligible.  I'd never heard of them, and I would say I've heard of most Australian listed companies (except for a good percentage of the vast swathe of mining and energy exploration companies who have never made a dollar for their shareholders). 

Commsec says:  Spectur Limited (SP3) currently operates in the Australian security surveillance industry, with a specific focus on solar-powered security camera systems.  Their core products are solar powered deterrence and surveillance systems and associated cloud-based platforms.  These systems incorporate cameras, lighting, audible warnings and a hardware IoT platform, remotely accessed and connected via 3G/4G technology to a cloudbased platform.

Sounds like they could have the makings of a decent company if they start executing well - and a few things go their way.  I've added them to my watchlist.

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