@elpaso96
I think you make a good point.
The only point of difference and ultimately why I don't see eye to eye with you is that I don't believe the essence of risk in an investment is captured by volatility, nor Beta for a stock.
In the theoretical formula for the 'discount rate' or cost of equity (COE), we are taught - Rf + B(Rm - Rf). So yes on the basis of this equation, a higher beta reflects higher risk. I don't believe this measure is practicle.
I wouldn't adjust my discount rate from 10% to 15% on the basis that the RBL stock is very volatile. In the short term, most share price movements are just noise and my belief is that price = value in the long run.
I think to @Rapstar's point, the lack of a moat for RBL is much greater of a risk to an investor than the volatility or beta of the stock is. I would be much more likely to adjust my discount rate due to a fundamental factor such as a moat, rather than the noise of the market.
I agree with elpaso96. I don't believe Redbubble has a particularly strong moat, and things can rapidly go pear shaped for them if for example, Google decides to adjust their search algos, as happened a few years ago.
I prefer CTT over RBB atm. Higher value spent per customer - luxury good svs shitty t-shirts, and CTT seems to be undercutting the entire market and stealing market share at a rapid rate....
@Elpaso96
Thanks for providing an update on RBL valuation.
Can you provide some detail on how you go from the 10% EBITDA margin to a valuation of $2.16, and what multiples you use to arrive at that figure. (& similarly for the 15% margin on the bullish case.)
Also, why a 15% discount rate. I get you pointed to the stock being volatile but the risk free rate is at a low of ~2%. It feels strange to me that one would need to discount at such an aggressive rate.
The following is an excerpt from someone on hotcopper that highlights the point I am trying to make;
"
If, as an investor, one discounted equity investments using as much a 13% spread over risk-free rates, one would be limited to owning stocks only a few weeks every decade or so.
The rest of the time equities would be too expensive for you."