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05-Nov-2023:  

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The Environmental Group (EGL) is a top 10 position for me both here on Strawman.com and in real life. EGL did move higher within my top 10 list during recent months (in August and September) because their share price got up to between 26 and 28 cps, and while it did drop back to 22 cps at the end of October (and finished Friday at 21.5 cps) - they’re still in my top 10 (both here and IRL) in terms of market value of the respective positions. 

EGL are a microcap company – their market cap is currently just $82 million – so their SP will move up on positive announcements and drift lower when there’s no news coz some people will sell out and move on, looking for the next hot stock. They had a very good FY23 full year report in August, hence their SP rise, and there hasn’t been any price sensitive news from them since then, so they’ve retraced as a number of people who jumped on them in August have jumped back off again.

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I first became interested in EGL when they appointed Jason Dixon as their new CEO in Feb, 2021. Jason and EGL’s National Sales and Marketing Manager, Paul Gaskett, were instrumental in building up Tox Free Solutions which was acquired by Cleanaway (CWY) in 2018 for an Enterprise Value of $831m.  Tox Free was at that time one of Australia’s leading Waste Management and Environmental Solutions companies with over 1,500 staff and an annual turnover of approximately $500m. You can read more about Jason here: EGL: 08-Feb-2021: Appointment of CEO – Mr Jason Dixon.

And more on both of them here: https://www.environmental.com.au/about-egl/executive-team

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Also, Jason Dixon has done two interviews with Andrew here on Strawman.com, which you can find here: Strawman: Meetings with company CEO's

[Those meeting dates were 19th of June, 2023, and way back on October 8th, 2021, about the fourth meeting in, when the whole "CEO Meetings" idea first kicked off here.]

Jason and Paul had the Australian agency agreement for Turmec, an Irish company that is the global leader in state-of-the-art waste recycling plants, and they bought that agency with them and incorporated it into the EGL Business when they joined EGL. This came about because Turmec repatriated all of their Irish employees who were working in Australia back to Ireland when Covid-19 started to become a serious issue in 2020, and Turmec wanted people they could trust to be their Australian agents for all new Turmec business and also for ongoing consumables sales and service to their existing Australian customers. My understanding is that Turmec knew Jason and Paul from Tox Free and were happy to award that agency agreement to them (to be their agents here in Australia). However, while the Turmec agency is an important part, it is only one part of the EGL Business.

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Turmec sits within EGL Waste Services, referred to in their recent presentations as EGL Waste, whose main activities involve the design, construction, commissioning, and maintenance of waste treatment plants, specialising in waste recycling plants where Turmec are the world leaders.  EGL Waste also do a lot of Air Control systems, especially dust control, which is where TAPC and Airtight Solutions get involved (see below).

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EGL also have Baltec IES (Inlet & Exhaust Systems) which provides a broad range of products and services to the gas turbine power industry to reduce emissions and noise, and to improve efficiency, such as gas turbine inlet filtration systems (filter houses), inlet cooling/fogging systems, acoustical components, expansion joints and complete exhaust systems with guillotine and diverter dampers. 

Then there is Total Air Pollution Control (TAPC), Australia’s largest full-service air pollution control company, headquartered in Wollongong, NSW, with branches in Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Singapore and Manila.  TAPC supplies a complete range of products and services for the removal of pollutants from industrial gas and air streams, installing, maintaining and repairing a vast range of industrial air pollution control devices. TAPC serves more than 100 industry groups across Australia, New Zealand, South-East Asia and the Pacific.

EGL’s most recent acquisition was a company called Airtight Solutions, which has now been combined with TAPC (see above) to form EGL Clean Air, but is currently listed on their website as a separate business unit. This acquisition has expanded their market share, added new customers (which allows for cross-selling of their other services), and enhanced their product range in Air Filtration, Purification and Air Pollution Control systems.

Next is Tomlinson Energy Service, which EGL are now calling EGL Energy (in their latest presentations), which was the old Tomlinson business that was part of RCR Tomlinson before Paul Dalgleish blew up RCR by driving it in a new direction they knew very little (or clearly not enough) about – Solar Farm Construction. EGL bought the Tomlinson business very cheaply from the RCR Administrators and it has been providing baseline recurring revenue for EGL ever since via regular scheduled maintenance of industrial Steam Boilers, large commercial Hot Water Heaters and Boilers, Thermal Oil Heaters, Package Burners and Biomass Steam and Hot Water Generators – throughout Australia – which they also supply, install and commission. 

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One thing that Jason and Paul have brought to EGL is a focus on parcelling ongoing maintenance contracts with their design, supply and install contracts wherever they can, across all of their business units, because they understand the value of baseline recurring revenue. Tomlinson were always doing this, but EGL now do this across their other divisions also.

Finally, there is EGL Water, which is about removing dangerous and/or harmful contaminants from water, and their main focus has been on PFAS removal. PFAS, or per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, is a group of over 4000 chemicals. Some PFAS are very effective at resisting heat, stains, grease and water, making them useful chemicals for a range of applications including:

  • Stain and water protection for carpets, fabric, furniture and apparel;
  • Paper coating (including for some food packaging);
  • Metal plating (including Teflon coatings on frypans, saucepans and other cookware);
  • Photographic materials;
  • Aviation hydraulic fluid;
  • Cosmetics and sunscreens; and
  • Medical devices.

Because they are heat resistant and film-forming in water, some PFAS have also been used as very effective ingredients in fire-fighting foams.

In Australia, the historical use of PFAS in fire-fighting foams has resulted in increased levels being detected at sites like airports, Defence bases, and other sites where fire-fighting training has been conducted (which has prompted some recent payouts and also money has been allocated by the government for future payments to people who were exposed to PFAS through fire-fighting foam use on Australian Defence Force bases), or where fire suppression systems are installed for extinguishing liquid-fuel fires.  Increased environmental levels of PFAS have also been found near some industrial areas, effluent outfalls and landfill sites.

Unfortunately, the properties that make some PFAS useful in many industrial applications and particularly in fire-fighting foams, also make them problematic in the environment. The PFAS of greatest concern are highly mobile in water, which means they travel long distances from their source-point;  they do not fully break down naturally in the environment;  and they are toxic to a range of animals.

While understanding about the human health effects of long-term PFAS exposure is still developing, there is global concern about the persistence and mobility of these chemicals in the environment. Many countries have discontinued, or are progressively phasing out, their use. The Australian Government has worked since 2002 to reduce the use of certain PFAS.

Source: https://www.pfas.gov.au/about-pfas/substances

See also: https://www.pfas.gov.au/about-pfas/affects  and: https://www.pfas.gov.au/

EGL have their own dedicated website for their EGL Water division: https://eglwater.com.au/

That site provides links to other sites (such as the Australian government site linked to above) where you can find more information about PFAS and what is being done to try to phase out its use, reduce exposure to it, and remove it from contaminated water and soil.

EGL Water have partnered with Victoria University’s Institute for Sustainability and Innovation, which has spent months testing the efficacy of their new pioneering technology.  Researchers have found an 87% reliable reduction in PFAS-contaminated water.  This ground-breaking result signals the technology’s major potential for cost-effectively removing PFAS from the environment.

Source: https://eglwater.com.au/


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Here are some links to announcements from EGL this year regarding their EGL Water division:

14-Feb-2023: MOU with 374Water Systems, Inc.

23-Feb-2023: EGL Water - Successful Commercial PFAS Results

08-Jun-2023: EGL Water PFAS Separation Plant Sale

And here’s a link to their August presentation that accompanied their FY23 Full Year Results:

24-Aug-2023: EGL Results Presentation

In that August Presentation (on slide 28) they mention that recent successful class action law suits have highlighted increased awareness and the urgent need to find solutions to remove PFAS contamination in water, soil, landfills, farmland and housing estates.

So there you have it - in no particular order - the 5 businesses within (or divisions of) The Environmental Group (EGL):

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EGL is still a relatively small company that the Australian sharemarket is currently valuing as being worth less than $100m in total (currently $82m based on a 21.5 cps SP), and most investors either haven’t heard of them or do not follow them, so they have a long runway of growth ahead of them in my opinion, and the true value of the company is not yet being adequately reflected in their share price - again, in my opinion. 

Also, as their name suggests, what they do is generally positive for our environment. 

I bought our initial (real life) tranche of EGL at 14.5 cps in October 2021, not long after that first CEO meeting that Andrew had here with Jason Dixon, then I added more at 18 cps in December 2021, then more at 20 cps in May this year. Our average price paid has been 16.7 cps. They’ve been as high as 34 cps in Jan, 2022, got back up to 28 cps in September this year, and they finished October at 22 cps. It is my view that even when they were up at 34 cps very briefly in January of last year, they were still not trading anywhere near fair value due to the years of growth they have ahead of them, if they are not acquired (at a decent premium) by a bigger player before then.

And that's without factoring in the "Powerball" nature of their PFAS removal tech within EGL Water, which has an addressable market in the billions. I am currently not expecting too much from that business because I am aware that there are multiple players in that space, and there are no guarantees that EGL's PFAS-removal tech is going to win out and earn them significant market share compared to the other (mostly much bigger) players in that space. EGL have only made one commercial sale of a PFAS-Separation Plant - so far (link above). So I'm certainly hoping for a lot of success from EGL in PFAS removal in future years, but I'm not counting on it.

My bullishness on EGL is really just based on their other 4 divisions - and if EGL Water hits it out of the park then that will be plenty of welcome icing on the cake.

I'm not going to do a heap of graphs of revenue, profits, margins, etc., because this is a business that has relatively new management that is turning the business around (the business had NOT performed well before Jason and Paul joined the company in 2021), and it's still relatively early days in that turnaround, however based on what Jason and Paul did at Tox Free and what I have seen so far with EGL, I'm definitely onboard with this one.

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Source: https://www.environmental.com.au/egl-subsidiaries/egl-waste-services


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Disclosure: Yes, I do hold EGL shares.

lyndonator
Added one year ago

EGL is popping 15% today - who else did you share this analysis with @Bear77 ??

Somebody definitely likes it.

Great work btw

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edgescape
Added one year ago

Livewire is arguably one place to get punters excited and send share prices shooting up.

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Bear77
Added one year ago

Yeah, I reckon Harley Grosser's write-up on EGL on Livewire had a lot more to do with that rise than anything I've written. I wish I'd read Harley's write-up before I did mine; I would have used those graphs for a start and talked about the insider ownership and shareholder alignment (which he did - and is 100% correct about). Harley isn't new to the EGL register - he's been onboard for a while...

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Data Source: Commsec (commentary and squigley lines and arrows by me)


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Graphs source: https://www.livewiremarkets.com/wires/an-undervalued-small-cap-growth-story

Turns out there was enough of a turnaround in the past couple of years to make graphs worthwhile.

I agree with Harley that it is certainly comforting to see a management team that has done good previously trying to do good again, and succeeding, and that was what spiked my interest initially (in EGL), and likely why they have Greencape Capital, Challenger, and Mirrabooka Investments on their register, as well as Harley's HD Capital Partners, as he has explained in his article (/wire). Looking at the shareholder data, it looks like over half of the EGL shares held by Harley's Capital H Manangement were transferred across to his new investment company HD Capital Partners on March 22nd this year, and that Capital H was left with a bee's whisker under 5%, so ceased to be "Subs" because of being (just) below that 5% threshold, but that's a guess. HD Capital Partners still hold 5.4% of EGL, so remain as "Substantial Holders" (or "Subs").

Most of that stuff - from my posts about EGL in the past few days - was shared by me here last year and/or the year before - much of it is in my "valuation" for EGL. I have also talked about the company with a small group of people outside of this site.

Being a microcap company, it doesn't take much to move the share price significantly - in percentage terms. Today (Wednesday) there was a total of 101 trades in EGL for a grand total of just under $350K ($348,210 and 38 cents), and at one stage they were up at 25.5 cps which was +15.9% above their 22 cps close yesterday (Tuesday) - as @lyndonator pointed out earlier today - so there was a fair bit of movement with less than $350K worth of EGL shares changing hands today. They'll spike on good news and when others (like Harley Grosser) shine a spotlight on them and point out what a great company they are, people jump onboard, but many of those people get bored when there isn't regular positive newsflow, so they jump onto something else instead.

I'm staying onboard as long as the investment thesis remains intact, and the share market will do what it will do. It's interesting, but doesn't change anything. Harley's Grosser's article however was well worth reading - much more comprehensive than my write-up, and reminded me of a few things I'd forgotten about - like the inside ownership, which is one of the things I do like to see in the companies I invest in, and it was a factor that helped get me over the line initially with buying into EGL a couple of years ago, but I'd just forgotten about it when I was doing the write-up.

My main focus lately has actually been on MIN and DVP and a possible future takeover of DVP by MIN, which may or may not happen - still doing some research on that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bill Beament takeover the reigns at Mineral Resources (MIN.asx) when Chris Ellison decides to retire, or step back a bit from running MinRes. Chris and Bill both admire each other and the businesses that each of them has built up over the years, and Chris would be unlikely to hand the management to anybody that he wasn't impressed with already. But Bill is busy building up Develop Global (DVP) right now, another miner/mining services hybrid just like MinRes is, and one way to get Bill B onboard at MinRes would be for MinRes to acquire DVP. I don't think it would be likely to happen very soon, but it's certainly something to keep an eye out for down the track a bit.

'Nite all!

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edgescape
Added one year ago

@Bear77 Never thought that MIN and DVP would merge although MIN holds lots of DVP and will do once the ESS merger is complete.

Although possible, I would take everything one step at a time before jumping to conclusions

But in the short term it looks like some overhang is appearing again as a result of the merger and also possible admission into the ASX300 which is causing increased trading volumes. So we could see more volatility in DVP. I'm trying to be patient and accumulate only when prices look attractive.


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UlladullaDave
Added one year ago

Great write-up @Bear77

Does EGL own the PFAS tech or have some sort license agreement with VU? Just trying to understand if they have a potential global market or just AU.

Thanks!

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Bear77
Added one year ago

My understanding is that they own the IP now for their PFAS tech @UlladullaDave but happy to be corrected if anybody knows otherwise. My recollection is that Jason said (in his interview with Andrew - the first one I think) that "Our guys" have come up with this way of removing PFAS from water and it was all about whether they could scale up the tech and make it affordable. Not sure whether they enlisted VU's assistance or whether the Uni had a hand in the original discovery and then sold that to EGL. In my experience, Universities tend to sell their discoveries and retain a royalty-type right so they benefit from future commercialisation, so if the discovery came from the Uni, that would likely be the story. Sometimes they do licence IP like this instead of selling it, but a listed company like this are unlikely to spend millions trying to commercialise something that they only have a license for. Or to put it another way, companies are MORE likely to be inclined to spend those dollars when it's their own IP, hence why Uni's tend to sell these things and retain exposure via a royalty-type right of payment. The other point about that is that Uni's are primarilly places of education and research, not commercialisation and sales of new tech, so while Uni's DO come up with new IP reasonably often, they tend to sell it for that reason also, because they are a place of research and education. However, again, I'm not sure where the idea came from originally - EGL or the Uni - my recollection was that Jason said it was some of the guys at EGL who came up with it, but I'm not 100% on that.

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