Forum Topics AVA AVA Telstra Supply Agreement

Pinned straw:

Added 10 months ago

AVA has signed a major supply agreement with Telstra, where it will provide its tech to monitor the group's fibre optic network.

AVA will connect its tech to parts of Telstra existing fibre optic network -- effectively making the cable one giant sensor that can be used to monitor and protect the network.

No financials given, other than Telstra has 650,000km of cable. It seems installation should be reasonably easy and low cost -- you're basically adding some detectors to existing cable nodes.

The deal comes after a 10 month of collaboration and trials, and open up a new and significant market for AVA (there is 5 billion km of fibre cabling globally).

So it feels like this is big news, but can't really say for sure without knowing much about the commercial terms. We have a meeting with the CEO in March, so hopefully get some more detail then.

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Hackofalltrades
Added 10 months ago

AVA suspended on ASX - https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apiman-gateway/ASX/asx-research/1.0/file/2924-02771104-3A636079


Additional Information Provided - https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apiman-gateway/ASX/asx-research/1.0/file/2924-02771103-3A636078

Essentially, it doesn't seem like Telstra needs to buy stuff, more that it can.

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wtsimis
Added 10 months ago

@Strawman feels like a huge deal in not only the customer in question and impact to AVA in terms of revenue and profitability but as important the ability to expand internationally the FFT offering across the globe.

I also don't feel the market has factored any kind of contract like this going forward so expect a positive response.

Disc : Held

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topowl
Added 10 months ago

Nice something for nothing on a Friday.

Look forward to seeing more details.

#betterthanakickintheteeth.

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wtsimis
Added 10 months ago

Love it @topowl .

Interesting that AVA tend to through out announcements on Friday and sometimes after the market closes ???

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lyndonator
Added 10 months ago

Wooo! For once the market actually likes it.

I agree I would like to see more info on the financials - it seems like this should be relatively high margin as it will be more software/AI training than a hardware, but I can also imagine they may be giving very favourable rates to get this across the line...

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actionman
Added 10 months ago

Could it be possible that for a big contract they will need to invest to scale up to deliver? I'm not sure how capital intensive the business is, but in my experience landing a large contract requires some uplift in product and services to deliver on time and be fit for purpose. I'm interested to see what the follow up announcement will be.

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lyndonator
Added 10 months ago

@actionman Yes, I'm a little nervous about this announcement for this reason.


From what we are given, it doesn't seem like it would be capitally intensive on plant and equipment (and AVA have a history of outsourcing this if need be (e.g IMOD contract)).


However it could require more staff or, of greatest concern, a lot of involvement of key/senior people and therefore less focus on other contracts/projects/R&D


It's happened more than once that landing a big contract has been the downfall of a company - not suggesting it is that dire in this case but worth bearing in mind.


Personally, I have been involved multiple times working for small software companies where big contracts (sometimes at overly favourable rates) have just sucked in resources causing a slow down in most other parts of the business - and in hindsight the big bet wasn't worth it.


The fact that this was 10 months in the making does mean there may be some sunk cost fallacy from the AVA side (In my experience, the big players are often well aware of this an will use it to negotiate hard on the deal)


This is all speculation though - getting some idea of the financials will help a lot, and I think mostly likely positive for the business. But I will be bearing all of the above in mind.

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JPPicard
Added 10 months ago

I think they're raising.

They'll need to resource up to deliver on this, they've got a little debt also, so why not clean up the balance sheet with a cap raise and put some extra dollars in the bank.

Just my opinion. Let's see.

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AbelianGrape
Added 10 months ago

Apparently it's not a raise. They're going to provide "further details in relation to a material contract". Presumably about the Telstra contract?

Not necessarily good news, but probably not bad is my guess.

[Edit: I should have provided the link]

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mikebrisy
Added 10 months ago

Good!

Perhaps unwise to make a price-sensitive announcement without providing any hard facts. But maybe the only substance is that they are a "preferred supplier". This doesn't mean much if the contract doesn't involve any commitments. (e.g., Ferrari are my preferred supplier of supercars.)

It is tricky, because you can give management credit for ensuring that all shareholders have equal access to that information. So its a bit damned if you do and damned if you don't.

For sure, it there isn't any tangible followup in the next reporting period, you'd expect any SP bump to unwind.

Disc: Held in RL but not yet in SM. $AVA has been at the top of my microcap watchlist for a while, and this morning I re-initiated a small RL position because of the potential of this as discussed by others. I've been teetering on the brink for a while, and as you can see in my SM history I have been in and out recently ... cold feet, and needed capital elsewhere.

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JPPicard
Added 10 months ago

Lols at "Ferrari are my preferred supplier of supercars". 

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