Forum Topics DDR DDR 2023 AGM

Pinned straw:

Added 6 months ago

I attended the DDR AGM in Kurnell yesterday and wanted to share my takeaways while they’re fresh.

David Dicker, CEO was not there in person, zoomed in on video instead as he’d received a death threat if he turned up due to share price being down (a brave but anonymous warrior in Elon’s Twitter army I suspect). This was initially met with a few chuckles from the audience but seems it was legit, the police turned up but there were no scuffles, shots fired or arrests that I noticed.

David took the opportunity to emphasis that he had not wanted to sell any shares and only did so under the obligation of a highly unfavourable divorce judgement.

So timing was seemingly out of his hands too?

Presentation

This went for about an hour – led by David, followed by Exec Directors Mary the CFO and Vlad the COO.

Overarching theme was that business conditions are tough across ANZ at the moment, which doesn’t bode well for the remainder of 1H 24.

Vlad made the point that DDR has historically taken market share in up and downturns but this usually is faster in downturns.

They seem to think about the business like owners (because they are) so a little unorthodox in some of their presentation / thinking but mostly in a good way.

Moat seems to be largely cultural and defensible (operating efficiency is a big feature can't really be a moat as this can be copied by competitors).

CFO

Cycling difficult comps – specifically they were a big beneficiary of Covid IT demand in FY21, then impacted by supply chain issues in FY22. These resulted in a big pcp for Mar-23 Qtr when a lot of the high demand, then low supply from FY22 worked its way through, a lot of which got invoiced in Q1 23. This made Q1 24 Revenue hard to comp on a like for like basis.

My take is that they are confident that better times are coming but probably not in Q2, hopefully H2.

Dividend policy to pay out 100% of NPAT on a quarterly basis to fund the F1 ambitions of all shareholders will not be changing while David remains alive / a shareholder.

COO

NZ is seen as a big opportunity in terms of both market share (they are 2nd) and margin as they work through the acquisitions they made there.

They are looking to sign ANZ vendor and partnership agreements as opposed to being siloed to leverage the strength of the Aussie business to expand the NZ arm.

That said, the NZ economy is doing it tougher than here.

Digital is a larger piece, growing steadily, higher margin and expected to continue for the foreseeable.

Official business

The unorthodox Rem Report got a 2nd strike but the spill was easily defeated.

Given David's attitude towards it, I expect this to be a feature - lots of strikes but no spills to protest but not punish the board / Rem & Nom committee.

Site Tour

Did a site tour afterwards.

The CFO led us through with the head of property mgmt. and about 15 other shareholders, fund managers (I only recognised the Hayborough guys) and punters / brokers?

Kurnell is an Impressive set up, very modern, lots of capacity, and DA being sought to add another adjacent 30k sq feet (in addition to the 22 + 17 = 39k sq foot facilities they have currently operational but not fully utilised.

Disc: Held

Saiton
Added 5 months ago

@Slomo @Karmast You both must be reasonably local to Kurnel, so am I (Burraneer/Cronulla). If you guys/girls want to meet up some time for a drink say hi have a chat let me know.

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Karmast
Added 6 months ago

@Slomo I attended too and that was a great summary of the meeting and presentations.

I do think the reluctance to engage or discuss the rem strikes is a high risk strategy for them/us. Given the high insider ownership it's a smaller group of shareholders actually voting on this and it seems some of their instos are following proxy advice or not comfortable themselves. There could definitely be a Board spill passed in the next year or two if they don't engage at least a little and that could then get messy for all of us.

Personally I like the simple rem structure and it's generally very well aligned with shareholders. There is some risk of course on "how" they get profit growth, so another simple measure or two added to this structure that's hopefully what they are doing anyway, could be a reasonable way to get the instos back on side.

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thunderhead
Added 6 months ago

Thank you for the on-the-ground take.

I don't think I have ever come across a death threat keeping the main person away from an AGM. Must be someone with a sizable stake gone sour.

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Scoonie
Added 6 months ago

Interesting Slomo  you mention a death threat against David Dicker, resulting in him not being able to attend yesterday’s AGM.

Half an hour before the ASX closed on Friday 17/5/24 DDR issued the notorious release indicating in the three months to March, revenue fell 10% to $694m. This along with several other poor shareholder communications of recent times.

The reaction from shareholders was as you might expect, not very positive.

The 2023 DDR annual report indicates there are 15,274 shareholders. Police will have a job on their hands finding the culprit.

If you rule out David issuing a death threat on himself and I didn’t do it, so that leaves 15,272 suspects detectives will need to interview. 

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Karmast
Added 6 months ago

@Scoonie

Very funny and yes that would be a lot of interviews!

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