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Seymourbutts
Added 5 months ago

I occasionally will listen to Chris Judd's 'Talk Ya Book' Podcast when a stock I'm interested in is discussed.

Yesterday Chris spoke with Harley Grosser from HD Capital Partners to do a dive into Airtasker (ART), some pretty interesting discussion.

I thought Harley provided some good insight into the company and put forward some interesting points on relative valuation. Sounds like ART is turning the marketing taps back on to try and drive some growth in external markets. Fair amount of execution risk associated with this, however when you are arguably getting the Australian operations at a discount it's not bad value (supposedly). Macro factors play into this one a fair amount - lots of people may prefer to do it themselves rather than outsource tasks?

Obviously, as the title of the podcast suggests the analysts will be bullish on companies discussed but nevertheless, I found this conversation compelling enough to take a closer look myself over the coming days.

No position.

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occy
Added 5 months ago

Sorry to hijack your Airtasker thread with this @Seymourbutts but I had not heard of this bloke before and looked into his background, Chris Judd was an AFL player? And a highly decorated one at that it seems? This of course does not negate his analysis of shares (I was at a luncheon with Darren Lockyer at my table several years back where our discussion turned to the stockmarket and he was a very switched on individual regarding financial investments and interests post playing career) but Judd's background took me by surprise. Do you recommend this podcast as one to add to my list?

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Seymourbutts
Added 5 months ago

Hi @occy, yep Judd was one of West Coast's (and the AFL's) finest ever players. During his AFL career I believe he was mentored by a renowned market analyst in WA and has since gone on to become a private investor. Looks like he now runs his own fund as well.

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occy
Added 5 months ago

@Seymourbutts Interesting. Thanks!

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GazD
Added 5 months ago

Thanks for the heads up on this one @Seymourbutts

Good listen. I was already on bullish and hold IRL (small holding). A couple of things stood out to me listening to Harley talk about ART. Points I agreed with and part of my thesis:


  • Australian business already profitable and the historical development provides a (hopeful) guide to what might be achieved in UK and US
  • The Australiand and UK media deals are smart and give optionality on how to fund advertising spend (options to purchase equity back through cash or an equity raise). Likely that a similar deal in the US might follow.


Points which I questioned a little:

  • To paraphrase: At HD Capital Partners we invest in profitable businesses with long track record of cashflows etc. I'm surprised to see them so high conviction on a business which is really more at its inflection point than estabilished profitability. If you added in the advertising spend as a cash cost they would not be profitable on a FCF basis I don't think.
  • Harley made the point that they value the Australian business at more like 40 - 50 cents/share and that they are therefore getting the US and UK businesses for free. The counterpoint in my mind is that this is one of the biggest risks to the business. If they continue to take FCF from Australia and pour it into non-profitable businesses overseas this might be the bust of the business. So rather than getting them for free, you're anchored to the seabed and eventually sunk by them. Of course the flipside is possible in which case this business goes on to be a multidecade compounder and potential 100 bagger.


Overall to me I like the marketplace model, I am impressed by profitability in Australia, I think the gig economy is just getting started and I think this business has the potential to be massive. It also has solid inside ownership with Tim Fung holding ~10% of the business in shares as per yahoo finance.

As a final point, the SP is down today as is the ASX generally and I'm topping up a little.

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