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Last edited 4 months ago
Justification

Update 22/8/2024

Updating based on FY24 results.

  • NPBT = $62.1m
  • NPAT = $43.3m

Updated chart below:

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Must say that I was quite surprised by the market's reaction yesterday. I agree that the performance was ok given tough economic conditions but potentially shows the cyclicality involved in this industry.

The 2H FY24 was quite weak given that management have mentioned that their sales cycle usually peaks in May and June however NPAT was basically flat compared to 1H FY24.

Using a 25x PE on EPS of 28cps, gives a valuation of $7.

Disc: Held IRL and on Strawman.


Update 15/02/2024

Updating based on 1H FY24 results.

  • NPBT = $30.8m
  • NPAT = $21.4m

Updated chart below:

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Based on historic seasonal strength in 2H, I'll assume around $45m NPAT for the full year.

25x fwd PE would give a valuation of around $7.27.

Disc: Held IRL and on Strawman.

Update 22/08/2023

Updating based on FY23 results. Below is the graph of their NPBT results.

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Maintaining a 25x PE on the current set of numbers, gives me a valuation of $5.98.

I think I will likely top up at around $6.

Disc: Held IRL and on Strawman.

Update 20/01/2023

More of a target buy price to top up my current holdings. A 25x PE would equate to a share price around $6.20.

$6.20 is also the valuation for DTL assuming 15x EPS growth for 5 years and discounting back 10%pa.

Disc: Held IRL and on Strawman

Update 14/07/2022

DTL are reporting NPBT of $44m for FY22. NPAT ~$30.36m

$5.75 valuation would give a fwd PE of ~30x

For a company that has grown NPAT YOY by 19% this isn't too demanding IMO

Disc: Held IRL and on Strawman

Original Report

Assuming NPAT of $29.5m for FY22 (See my Straw)

PE of 30x = 885m MC

SOI = 154.3m

Valuation = $5.75

Solvetheriddle
Added 4 months ago

Look at this one every six months or so, what i saw--different CEO. different CFO, different accounting, changes in segmentals, negative CFO (which is not that unusual for DTL)......

good business but a lot to digest, i had to check the cover of the AR to make sure i had the right company. lol

not surprised at the confusion,


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edgescape
Added 4 months ago

Guess the analysts will keep plugging the narrative that IT sector is still in a downturn despite some resilience here. That's what I'm seeing in the price action

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mikebrisy
Added 4 months ago

@edgescape I wouldn't sweat over the short term on this one - looks like a beautiful business. If we get another July-2022, i'd probably join the club.

With a 5-year NPAT CAGR of 19%, and reasonable variability in annual % earnings growth, we regularly get entry opportunities.

The only reason I haven't bought to date has been preferring to add to higher margin SaaS businesses and my focus on healthcare.

But maybe, one day soon. Volatility is a beautiful thing.

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SudMav
Added 4 months ago

I am a DTL owner IRL as well and was surprised by the reaction yesterday too. Is it one of those things that the frothy PE ratios for some of these companies are starting to come back to more normal levels, if the growth prospects aren't as high in the future?

I also have the $45m in my forward NPAT calculations over the next year for this stock and agree with your updated valuation on this one.

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Karmast
Added 4 months ago

@mikebrisy Yes the volatility we seem to be seeing more of with many companies, the few days after reporting, for the past few earnings seasons, is a wonderful thing if you really think about it. For those who have done their homework and really know how the business is operating etc, can take advantage of short term silliness.

I have done particularly well IRL over the past couple of years in companies like DTL, DDR, JIN, CDA, NCK, RMD and DUR by adding when pessimism was high after reports and then waiting for some cooler heads to prevail!

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edgescape
Added 4 months ago

@mikebrisy I believe DTL is more resilient during downturn as the business has exposure to BAU than new projects like MP1.

Because at the end of the day you can't get away with system upgrades and maintenance of your live systems. However as I've heard from word of mouth, you can still kill your Dev and Test systems but leave your Live and Preproduction systems up and running.

Having said that, my comment on Dev/Test postponement is only sample size of 1. So maybe software investors in general you can ignore that account...

I reckon the analysts have been doing checking around the industry on project implementations and are probably trying to use that info to their advantage.

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UlladullaDave
Added 4 months ago

If you go back to the last cyclical downturn DTL really sold off heavily. I think it is far more cyclical than the market appreciates. The last few years have been a purple patch. 61bccbc27b10729169e972f1ea4ff68fea21f8.png


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edgescape
Added 4 months ago

@UlladullaDave

I don't deny the fact that Data#3 is a mining co dressed up as a tech co. I will make it clear on that point

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Solvetheriddle
Added 4 months ago

@UlladullaDave possibly has some positive structural changes in the market over time, but the PE has doubled from circa 15X to 30X over and above the earnings growth, that's the crux of my issue with DTL as an investment.

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Karmast
Added 4 months ago

I agree @Solvetheriddle that isn't a sustainable trend. That said, they were added to the ASX200 in the past year, so have the had bump of being added to all those passive indexes and now the ongoing flow of new super money, so the future average multiple is likely to be higher than the historical one. I've just got to figure out what the new "fair" range is...

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