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Pinned straw:

Added 3 months ago

There's a lot about AI-Media that is easy to miss, so I wanted to try and elucidate the key aspects of the business, its offering and the competitive advantages it has -- as informed by today's conversation with co-founder and CEO Tony Abrahams.

But, to be honest, i'm not confident i've got things right so please correct me if you think I'm off base.

First, as @mushroompanda has already said, they aren't building AI models themselves. AI-Media’s technology relies on APIs (Application Programming Interfaces) to connect their software with these external AI engines.

AIM's products provide context to AI engines, such as metadata from broadcast streams (e.g., identifying speakers, locations, or specific program segments). This customization improves the accuracy of AI-generated captions by using additional data.

Their competitive edge comes from effectively embedding these AI models into a unique, customer-focused delivery system which integrates into existing workflows. It's more about ingesting audio/video feeds, extracting the relevant information, and sending it back in real-time so it cam be inserted/overlaid into the broadcast.

The acquisition of EEG (a provider of encoding hardware) was really a pivotal moment for AIM, giving it control over the critical hardware needed to feed audio data into AI models, allowing seamless integration with their cloud-based captioning services.

The total addressable market for AI language services is vast, estimated at around $70 billion annually. Tony pointed out that AI-Media’s current focus—live speech-to-text and live captioning—represents just a small fraction of this market, approximately 1%.

At the moment, around 90% of AI-Media’s operations are centered on live captioning and transcription, primarily driven by their LEXI solutions. However, Tony stressed that this is just the tip of the iceberg, indicating that the company is still in the early stages of tapping into the broader market potential.

A significant portion of the market opportunity lies in recorded media, which accounts for about 25% of the total market. This includes transcription and captioning for pre-recorded content like TV shows, movies, and online videos.

There are also considerable opportunities in broader AI language services such as voice dubbing, audio description for visually impaired audiences, and other multilingual services. This segment, which Tony identified as the larger $69 billion part of the market, involves using AI to handle voice processing, translations, and enhancing accessibility through audio descriptions.

The market for AI language services extends beyond broadcasting and includes government, enterprise, education, and entertainment sectors. Each of these industries has unique needs for language services, from live captioning and translations to complex workflows

Tony highlighted that one of the key drivers of market growth is the reduction in costs associated with AI-powered services compared to traditional human-based models. For example, automated audio description, which traditionally required 25 hours of human labor per hour of content, can now be fully automated, significantly reducing costs and making these services accessible to a broader range of content creators.

He also said that regulatory requirements for accessibility, such as mandatory captioning and audio descriptions, are increasingly pushing broadcasters and content providers toward adopting AI solutions. This trend further expands the market opportunity for AI-Media’s products.

As mentioned at the results briefing (or potentially earlier?) Tony outlined ambitious financial targets, including reaching $150 million in revenue and $60 million in EBITDA within five years. 

And he said they wouldn't need to raise capital to pursue this -- all the pieces are in place and growth can be driven by organic cash flow.

He certainly has his money where his mouth is, recently acquiring 5m more shares to lift his stake to almost 17% of the business (he bought at 31c -- not a bad trade so far!).

Anyway, it seems that AI-Media is a genuine market leader in a fast growing market that offers increased service and lower cost for its customers. It's well capitalised, cash flow positive, founder-led and expecting to 15x EBITDA in the next 5 years.

Shares are on ~27x EV/EBITDA

I don't presently hold in real life, but will be adding a watching position here on SM today.

Silky84
Added 3 months ago

just caught up on todays meeting!

it is such a positive to have an engaged, intelligent, enthusiastic founder owner operator who can also so diligently simplify and communicate his companies modis operandi and strategy to investors not from within that industry! He is a very impressive chap.

AI media have a good product(s) that work, strong customer base and a large and increasing adressable market! Future seems bright!


happy holder and looking to add- a position held solely thanks to the strawman platform

disc- held in RL (12%)

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mushroompanda
Added 3 months ago

That was a great interview @Strawman!

You did a great job working with Tony to move beyond surface-level thinking and uncover Ai-Media’s true competitive positioning. To Tony’s credit, he’s not precious about how the company’s technological credibility is perceived, and is able to focus on the underlying truth.

I appreciate how Tony understands that he’s just plumbing big tech companies’ AI services - speech-to-text, text-to-speech, video-to-text, translation, LLMs, lip sync, etc. He even mentioned that the encoding of captions - split the audio, merging the text back to the video - isn’t particularly special. The true value is in the entire system: being deeply integrated into the customer’s workflow, building a rock-solid reputation over decades of handling high-stakes events, and possessing the expertise in captioning workflows, along with the custom-developed software, hardware, and processes to accommodate everything.

It feels like the company is in a sweet spot. With the encoders, it has a distribution platform to sell additional AI products - they’ve sold the razor and now they can sell the cartridge with 4 blades, aloe strip and titanium coating to labour the analogy. The technology team sounds super impressive as they plan to launch Audio Descriptions and Voice Dubbing within the next month. Even though the AI service building blocks are readily available - it’s one thing to see tech demos on Twitter vs products that are good enough for professional use cases.

Even though I feel I know the story quite well, this interview did provide me food for thought. A bit to unpack here.

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Wini
Added 3 months ago

Just wanted to jump in on the praise @Strawman and say that was a great meeting. I sit in on a lot of broker hosted group calls and it is so refreshing to have someone host who is far more interested diving deep into the business/industry (though to be fair I don't think Tony's arm needs to much twisting to embark on a soliloquy of the captioning industry!) rather than what financials look like over the next year.

The biggest risk for AIM is this is once steady and boring industry is now exceptionally fast moving, but you can only get confidence hearing Tony speak that they are well prepared to ride the innovation wave rather than be sent crashing by it.

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mikebrisy
Added 3 months ago

Great summary @Strawman and an excellent meeting .., as ever often so much more powerful without lot's of slides.

I've been stalking $AIM following posts by @Wini and @mushroompanda ... and was waiting today's session to check my understanding. I wanted to push him with the question, what if some writes an alternative software to do what you do (decoder), which he answered really clearly.

What I liked:

  • Proven use cases of integrating AI into customer workflows to remove labour
  • Leverages multiple existing LLMs and cloud, but importantly brings proprietary integration into customer workflow / dataflow, with know-how on how to leverage/transform customer data
  • B2B, global market, with multiple use cases / multiple customer segments
  • Founder skin in the game ... increasing
  • From $1 capex to $0.12c SaaS to $1 capex to $2 SaaS!
  • ... and declining services revenue masking more rapid growth of the tech revenue stream (we've seen this elsewhere in SaaS, e.g., $RUL capex to subscription,...it takes a while for the market to wake up)


I'll add this nugget from their recent result call:

"Over the last few weeks, we achieved a very significant milestone, which was capturing of the Paris Olympics. We did that in Australia. We did that in the U.S. for NBCU. And we also did it for Telemundo in Spanish. I'm delighted to report that for the very first time, we delivered this with LEXI in Australia and the mix of human services, and it was a full LEXI delivery in North America and in Spanish with Telemundo. The result of that was exceptional. We had 0 complaints recorded for what was the greatest show on Earth. And in fact, that has delivered enormous confidence in us and in our customers that this technology transition will continue to accelerate."

What a great reference case!

I'll leave you all to do your own calculations, but if they can get anywhere near $60m EBITDA by 2029, based on organic growth, and with current CAPEX of $1-2m (with D&A running at $4-5m), and P/E cases in 2029 of 20/30/40, then at today's SP it's a steal. In fact, even if it takes them until 2032 to get there, it's still a steal.

I've taken a small position in RL (1.9%) today, and will consider adding with progress over time.

Disc: Held in RL and SM (order submitted)


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edgescape
Added 3 months ago

Can see this shoot up the Strawman rankings already!

I think there are better AI/automation plays in the US like SoundHound (used to hold but watching it right now)

But as the ASX has not much choice I can fully understand everyone's view here.


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