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Added 2 months ago

https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/ann-december-2023-quarterly-activities-report-appendix-4c.7812574/

Nearly 8 mil cash on hand.

Nearly 3 mil in operating expenses.

Plenty of adjusted figures to try and make things look prettier.

Management is not looking rational in my view.

I think this will go to zero or distressed takeover value only.

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#ASX Announcements
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Added 7 months ago

Increased student numbers and decreased acquisition costs and the share price is up 25%, but, without looking at it too closely, I very much doubt it's enough



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#Quarterly Cash
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Added 10 months ago

Looks like the market has worked out that Cluey isn't doing well.

I think we're looking at the company being worth the residual value of code camp.

If we had management willing to rationalise what value is left and run it for cash or even return capital there might be something here.

Unsure if that market cap includes all shares on issue, but it's not good when cash on hand exceeds market cap!


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#Quarterly Cash
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Last edited one year ago

Looks like they’re running out of cash fast, albeit in a weak period for tutoring. I assume this is what weighed on KME yesterday too given the drop.

Probably need a raise in next 9 months and not sure what cap markets will be like whey they do - or cut marketing expenses significantly. They’re talking profitability in FY24 but will see.

Wonder if KME could even be interested in making a bid in future, it would be good having an irrational player out of the market.

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#Risks
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Added one year ago

I received a reply to my email regarding the employee benefits expense. All of these expenses are not included in the calculation for the gross profit. Many of these expenses will need to grow if the business is to expand significantly. I want to see either significantly more scale, or these expenses to come down significantly as a percentage of the revenue. I suspect they will come down somewhat as a %, but my hunch is not enough to make Cluey a good investment at the moment.


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#FY22 and Business Outlook
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Added one year ago

Cluey Learning October 2022

Cluey has been very successful in attracting customers in their last two quarterlies. Doing some ballparking, using a simple logarithmic projection, if their current increase of 22.5k students per half continues, my estimate is that they will hit 70k active students in about 3 years, and max out at around 75-80k active students. Current active students are at 33k, so this could imply a revenue of 83 mil or maybe even 100 mil+. It’s worth noting that current market conditions have been rather favourable for new students and this may change. 

If their stated gross profit margin was accurate, this would be very profitable (maybe 10 mil pretax). In my view, however, the gross profit they state does not align with the actual incremental cost of new revenue. One example here is that the cost of sales advisors is being treated as a fixed cost, when it is clearly at least somewhat variable as new advisors are needed with increased demand. The marketing spend might be able to remain similar while keeping a similar inflow of students, resulting in increased revenue, but I expect that to increase the rate of new students would require an additional spend. 

Supporting this is that in FY22 expenses not included in cost of sales have increased substantially. Excluding some items that I think were one off in FY21, there has been an increase of $1.22 in expenses for each $1 of revenue. I wouldn’t expect that trend to continue, but am still guesstimating that expenses will increase at maybe $0.81 for each new $1 of revenue. Making this estimation difficult is that there is an employee benefits expense that isn’t broken down well, except some reference to sales advisors being included here in footnotes, but from FY21-FY22 accounts for an increase of $0.32 of expenses per new $1 of revenue. There isn’t enough information about this to see how this will scale and I’ve sent an email. 

It’s also worth noting that code camp figures have very unhelpfully been thrown in with the overall Cluey figures. This has muddied the waters, but I think not enough to change conclusions. 

Cluey seems well funded for the next year, or more if they succeed in reducing costs, but expansion of Cluey’s main business into the UK would require a substantial spend that I don’t believe they currently have the finances for. 

If Cluey is able to make a profit, the business may be cheap currently, but I’m not convinced they can. It’s very much a wait and see game on these expenses I think. My outlook could change substantially in either direction based on future results.

@Wini


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