Forum Topics KPG KPG Cap Raise

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Added 2 months ago

I heard Kelly partners was going to raise a bunch of money. I assume when they list in the US. The information I don't think is a secret but I hear no one talking about it, so maybe it is.....

Scoonie
Added 2 months ago

@ PortfolioPlus. I paid attention in Year 4 at school, and remember what happened to the original Kelly Gang.

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Scoonie
Added 2 months ago

  UlladullaDave, saw your referenced “exclusive interview” with Brett Kelly on Latticework. The interview is headlined: “Australia’s Berkshire Hathway in the Making”.   How’s that for starters - just mind-blowing modesty.  

Every couple of years the ASX seems to throw up another financial pied piper knob - Kerr Neilson (Platinum Asset Management), Hamish McDougal (Magellan Financial Group), Rob Luciano (VGI Partners, now Regal) + more. 

I have no idea of how all this is going to end for Brett and the indoctrinated shareholders at KPG.    But for god’s sake Brett, it’s an accounting business. A roll up accounting business. So Brett tells us KPG have an “Owners Manual”.  Great. What is KPG doing that any other accounting firm cannot do aside from charging high fees and working the butts off young graduates recruited to the cult?  

Brett’s look and demeanor are a reminder of Peter Fitzsimmons.  I guess one is telling historical fairytales, the other financial ones and both pumping the retail crowd.   At least the damage done by Bandana Boy is limited to a lost afternoon spent falling asleep with one of his puerile novels, or his assisting in tanking a referendum or two.   

Brett, even without a bandana is far more dangerous. Get too caught up the Brett cult you risk ruining your retirement.

(Scoonie, you are a just cynical old prick. You will ruin it for all of us. Just in case you didn't get it, you’re an arsehole Scoonie). 

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PortfolioPlus
Added 2 months ago

Tut tut @scoonie, I take it you will not be fire walking with Brett, or beating the drums in the wilderness or walking one moon in the great man’s moccasins? Not attending the Kumbaya chanting session? I hear you. Every decade seems to anoint some Guru, until the sane world wakes up to the fact that they are really just human. It all started with the mysticism of Omaha which all the lemmings feel they must visit as a pilgrim. Reality is, there ain’t much there. It’s as dead as Dumpville, North Dakota.

Another reality is that we all have our own investment plans and our own styles…just like there are different lanes at a bowling alley. I’m in the ‘dividend stream from small/micro companies which represent value for money’’ alley. I’m not getting strike after strike, but I’m comfortable. It’s not busy, I don’t have to wear those weird shoes, there’s no rowdy ‘whoo-ha’s’ or high fives. I like good companies with good management who are already up and running except no one has noticed them yet.

your friend, Warren ( I drink Coke, insure with GEICO and eat See’s candy)


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thetjs
Added 2 months ago

If I could slot in a laughing emoji, I’d be doing it here.

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Karmast
Added 2 months ago

Nice summary @Scoonie

One of the other huge risks after you get past his ego/self belief, is there is no succession plan now or being developed. I put this to Brett a couple of years ago in a Q & A and his response was all the partners are the succession plan.

Umm, they might be able to keep running their individual offices but without Brett continuing to roll it all up, you now have a very expensive accounting business that has hit a brick wall for roll up growth...


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Slomo
Added 2 months ago

I asked Brett the same question years ago @Karmast and he said much the same.

Effectively there is a succession plan in place - the partners would all vote for a replacement from amongst their ranks.

That's democracy in action - not unlike what we've seen recently in the US...

What could possibly go wrong?

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UlladullaDave
Added 2 months ago

Warren Buffet never did a cap raise...

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Mujo
Added 2 months ago

Would be the smart thing to do given where it's trading.

Organic growth of maybe 5%pa the rest is from just rolling up more and more firms. US is a big market to continue that as once it's over guess there would be a big derate to 15x PE.

We've seen the rollup story a million times.

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Solvetheriddle
Added 2 months ago

I don't follow this one but there is one interesting thing about it. i listen to a lot of US/Intl investing podcasts, i mean A LOT. Rarely do Australian stocks ever get a mention, maybe the big miners every now and then, maybe RMD or CSL again rarely. except for one stock, KPG, gets more mentions than any other OZ stock. the question is why? IDK but i conclude it is because it is heavily marketed over there on the BRK connection, which is unusual, not necessarily bad.

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UlladullaDave
Added 2 months ago

He is very good at stock promotion and social media lets him reach a larger audience than would've been possible 15 years ago. Potentially there's also some interest because of the move to a NASDAQ listing. Nothing like feeding the ducks in preparation.


Strong overseas interest in Aussie small caps on social media is usually a pretty good red flag. You can reach your own conclusions on what sort of flag it is when those investors are calling an accounting rollup the next Berkshire.

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If you're interested, here is a recent Reddit on what being brought into the KPG fold is actually like.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianAccounting/comments/1gpeckk/kellypartners_firm_acquisition/


I used to own KPG a few years ago, but I sold on valuation grounds. Unlikely the market will present an opportunity to re-enter with all that promotion surrounding it.

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Mujo
Added 2 months ago

He definitely knows how to promote and what to say to finance people.

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UlladullaDave
Added 2 months ago

Agree @Mujo , although as a general rule when you see Buffett or Berkshire in the marketing material you can assume it is meant for a retail crowd.

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Mujo
Added 2 months ago

Agree, finance people i meant retail investors who who have read the usual investing books. Poor wording.

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