Pinned straw:
$SGI has reported its results ahead of the investor call in half an hour's time.
Three observations from a quick analysis
Revenue
Of the total revenie of $71.5m, $21.8m was due to Force, leaving $49.7m due to legacy Stealth Group, which is down significantly from $56.5m in 1H FY24 - the impact no doubt of the store ratoinalisation program, but no doubt also a reflection of the macro-environment.
I can't see a clear reference to life-for-like sales. So this is something to pay attention to in the call.
Incremental EBITD Margin
One metric I am tracking for the group is the Incremental EBITDA Margin. In H1 FY24 this was 13.1%. In 1H FY25 this has increased to 14.5%. This is excellent news, as it means that this metric has continued to advance, even given the Force acquisition, and that we should expect to see the quality of the business continue to improve as it scales,
Cash Flows
Operating Cash Flow is weaker. Picking through the report this seem to be mainly due to higher working capital, acquisition integration costs, and increased investments in business expansion. While revenue and profit grew strongly, cash flow was impacted by inventory buildup and timing of receivables collections, which should normalize in the following periods.
OK - one to track in future reports. I can live with it given the changes the business has gone through, the important over time that this improves,
Summary Analysis of the HY Report
Stealth Group delivered record financial results, driven by strong revenue growth, improved profitability, and cost efficiencies. The successful integration of Force Technology enhanced the Consumer Division’s contribution. While net debt increased due to strategic investments, the balance sheet remained robust, supporting future expansion. The company’s return on capital and operational efficiencies improved significantly, positioning it well for continued growth.
Stealth Group Holdings delivered a record half-year financial performance, with strong growth across all key financial metrics:
Stealth’s Industrial and Consumer Divisions contributed to the strong performance:
Cost efficiencies were also achieved:
Stealth's balance sheet remained strong, supporting future growth:
Overall Takeaway
A good result. Broadly on track to hit the $3.0 m NPAT for FY25 in my pro forma model I put together after the Force acquisition, but a miss on my modelled EBITDA. Excellent to see incremental EBITDA margin continues to improve.
Will see what Mike Arnold has to say on the call. (Just time to make my second coffee of the day, first!)
Disc: Held in RL and SM
Fairly straighforward call from Mike.
A few minor points to add.
Growth
Mike has done a great job of driving profit growth through rationalising the store network, and it sounds like the rationalising has continued into the second half. While this is great, there is of course a limit in how far you can shrink to greatness. For this half year report, the addition of Force has provided the "growth coverage". And so I was interested to note the bullet point on Slide 23 to "Expand store network, retail resellers and Online marketplaces."
So, I asked a question if Mike could say anything about the new store opportunity pipeline. I suspect he saw it, because he answered my first question on seasonability. No response, and I can't see anything in the Report on this topic. My BA looked, as he told us to.
I am not unduly concerned about this. The market is highly fragmented, and if you can acquire low performing networks and integrate them and rationalise, that can be a value-creating growth strategy. I will however be keen to see evidence of organic growth.
The report and presentation do refer to "Average order value per active customer increased 24.7%, with like-for-like Industrial sales growing 8.8% on a pcp basis". I am not sure how the second of these metrics is defined. Normally, like-for-like refers to a same-store sales metric. This would actually be amazingly good in the current environment, and perhaps is a testament to what $SGI are able to achieve with product ranging and store development.
I might send Mike email to ask how he has defined this "Like-for-Like" measure, unless any StrawPeople know from prior sessions?
Profit, Cash and Dividend
It will be interesting to see where the dividend goes at the Full Year. The dividend policy is for payout to be a minimum of 30% of free cash flow.
Its impossible to indicate where this will end up, given the additional cash that was tied up in the business this year with the acquisition. Free cash flow has actually gone backwards.
However, looking at the financials, the overall business trajectory is strong, and using historical seasonality and assuming a 48%:52% split for FY25, the eps growth is going to be very impressive. I know that tells us nothing about what the cashflow will do, but it seems as though the drag on operating cashflow has come about as a result of taking on Force, and with that transition behind us, if we have a stable second half, you might be forgiven for thinking that cashflow trends might start to line up again with the financial trajectory.
We'll see,
As a further measure, spot the ROE trend (Bottom line table below) - which I have calculated as {2 x 6-month NPAT / Average Equity in the Period}. Second half is likely to be in the range 15-20%, I'm guessing, maybe more if we continue to get strong incremental EBITDA margin!
This business is starting to show nice economics.
I wonder if Mike's 1.5% to $3.0% NPAT margin guidance is going to prove to be conservative? (Good on him, though, but I've nudged my range to 2.0% to 3.0%).
As I press "send" on this Straw, I've noticed that $SGI has just become my biggest RL holding for the first time (cheers to you, @DrPete). While its a very uncomfortable / unusual position for me to have a microcap as my biggest holding, the trajectory in this business is all in the right direction, so I am just going to let it run.
Disc: Held
I sold the last of my shares in SGI. I thought it was a pretty weak set of results.
Last year SGI reported $2.8m in EBITDA
From the Force acquisition presentation that business does about $2.5m EBITDA. Let's call that $1.25m/half. Additionally, SGI has recognised a $523k gain on an fx hedge in their p&l. (I am not sure one should be including that gain in calculations of EBITDA or NPAT when determining business performance.)
So flat earnings would essentially look like $4.6m.
I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that given the relative decline of revenue in SGI's core business that EBITDA for that business also went backwards and all the bottom line "growth" came from Force. That to my mind seems to confirm my initial suspicion that the acquisition of Force, a company in an almost totally unrelated segment, was about window dressing growth on to a heavily cyclical distributor business.
The re-rate of SGI has well and truly washed through the share price now. I'd be cautious from here because, again, this is a cyclical low margin distribution business. How many more Force rabbits can they pull out of the hat?
You raise a good point @UlladullaDave -- and it's great to see a more cautious take. It's easy for us to get carried away with the share price performance, which could blind us to some risks.
While revenue was essentially flat without Force, this is mainly a function of the closure of underperforming stores. Even accounting for this EBITDA for the legacy business is still slightly higher due to the improved profitability. That is, there's been an operational efficiency gain, and I find it somewhat encouraging that management are prepared to walk away from low quality revenue. (essentially "vanity revenue")
And there's some solace in that, on a like-for-like basis (excluding the closed locations), Industrial sales grew ~8.8% year-on-year, thanks to a sizeable jump in average order value.
But you're dead right, we need to see some sustained organic revenue growth from here to justify any enthusiasm
While revenue was essentially flat without Force, this is mainly a function of the closure of underperforming stores. Even accounting for this EBITDA for the legacy business is still slightly higher due to the improved profitability. That is, there's been an operational efficiency gain, and I find it somewhat encouraging that management are prepared to walk away from low quality revenue. (essentially "vanity revenue")
I take your point, but I find it a bit incongruous that they were talking about a $60m "organic revenue pipeline" at the AGM in November 2023 and yet, stripping out the Force acquisition, revenue will have gone sideways more or less since 2022. Closing underperforming stores is part and parcel of business, I don't think it excuses the lack of growth. At best they were over-egging the near term opportunity, and it somewhat feels like they're still doing it.
In the slide deck they again discuss a $300m revenue target in 2028 with 5% NPAT margins. How do they plan on getting anywhere near that? Because they also list their "growth catalysts" and there is no mention of M&A. That's basically saying they will more than double revenue in 3 years when in the previous 3 revenue went sideways. Maybe they get there and I'll be eating humble pie, but they haven't really proven themselves yet to earn a valuation based on such lofty targets, imo.
And valuation is the real issue now. When the shares were 10c-15c it was more of a re-rate story, but the market is now expecting pretty punchy growth to justify the SP. This is afterall a microcap, in an extremely difficult industry, with razor thin margins, basically no organic growth, trading at anywhere between 17-40x this year's earnings.
(I wrote a longer post but it got lost after I hit send)
Edit to add some context to the $300m target here is the FY23 slide with a $200m target by this year.
Yeah they are noticeably quiet on that $60m organic revenue opportunity @UlladullaDave
I heard today that it was raised but not really addressed on the earnings call.
I'm glad you issue the caution; any lack of organic revenue growth at the next report would be a definite worry
@Strawman and @UlladullaDave I've been calling out the "organic revenue growth" issue for a while now. I've been thinking about this today, stimulated very much by your posts, as I had decided to let it go yesterday, but you got me thinking again about it today.
On the call, this was referred to, including the $60m opportunity. Here's what I've pulled from the transcript:
Organic Revenue Growth
Slide 12 of the presentation has the key information, which refers to "Customer Value" with three bullet points:
As I explained yesterday, I asked for how Mike define "like-for-like" but the question wasn't answered.
Getting your existing customers to buy more is achieved by them buying through $SGI's network items they historically obtained from other supliers. The level of growth reported does not make sense as a same store sales growth number, which in the current environment would be expected to be low single digits or negative! So I think he is getting after the $60m, he's just not being very structured in his communication.
But, I hear you protest, Legacy $SGI Revenue declined! How can that make sense?
The way I have reconciled things (for now) is that Mike appear to be driving profit growth by developing the customer offer to drive revenue per customer of continuing customers at a favourable incremental margin, even while losing the contribution from "low margin customers / outlets",... I was surprised at how large the number of store closures was.
Thinking this through, the market is so fragemented that if he acquires other business cheaply enough, and high-grades it (i.e., shuts down unprofitable elements) and folds it into his common platform and uplifts the range of products to achieve profit growth, conceivably this can be an effective "roll-up-and-high-grading-strategy" all the way to his $300m target!
In other words, if he can acquire small networks of customers, then sort out the "keepers" from the "losers", then provided he can acquire those networks cheaply enough that could be a superior strategy than organically opening new outlets and winning new individual accounts "organically".
I don't think for one minutes Mike intends to do that, but I also reckon in this small business, the management team have limited capacity. And perhaps they have been fully occupied this last year on 1) developing the customer offer to drive average value per order, 2) getting their private label ranges going as part of that and 3) integrating Force. Sounds like a busy year to me, and maybe opening new stores or signing new customers for this last year, wasn't the most valuable thing for Mike to have the team working on.
Time for a SM Meeting?
One of the problems is that when we come to the Q&A of the Investor Briefings, Mike takes a 3 or 4 minute break while he reviews the questions that have come in, and then groups questions and paraphrases them. It's not transparent. I have no evidence here and I don't wish to make an unfounded allegation, but I think there could be a degree of censorship going on, as he avoids answering all questions by saying "Read the 4D".
I'm not sure if I am reading things correctly, but I think the last SM Meeting might have been September 2023. It would be great to have MIke back for a chat. For example, I asked him on the investor call what the pipeline for network expansion was looking like (i.e. store openings) as it was referred to on one of the slides but not discussed. He didn't answer, and it ain't in the 4D!
In a more relaxed chat we could ask him to reveal his throught process about how he allocates resources across the various proft levers:
... just my further musings on this. But @UlladullaDave raises a good point, and the reason I'm not a seller is that I think Mike doesn't have to pull all the levers, at the same time, all the time.
I'm not sure I've been entirely clear here, as it is late in the day, but there is definitely something in the communication of the business strategy and performance that could be improved.
Thanks for the detailed reply, @mikebrisy . I think where we disagree is fundamentally I don't believe what management says about growth because to date they have been wildly optimistic.
The $60m in organic growth was supposed to arrive by June this year. As late as June last year they gave this outlook statement when the accounced the Force acquisition. It was then quietly dropped at the FY24 results and AGM. It's such a whopping miss on guidance (they will miss their $60m target by....$60m) that I'm surprised it has had no discussion.
And now they have a new target of $300m by FY28. It seems unrealistic to take these targets as anything more than absolute best case scenarios, but the multiple this is trading on has them baked in as sure things.
@UlladullaDave I agree with you. They have not met revenue guidance. My point is, they have prioritised profit growth over revenue growth. If faced with the need to choose between the two, I'll take profit growth.
But I also agree with you: there should have been more discussion on this. And that's where the problem arises in how Mike runs his investor calls and the lack of transparency as to what questions are being asked. This is part of $SGI's immaturity in managing public shareholders which we have discussed before.
For now, I'm holding because the $300m by 2028 is now a stronger commitment than earlier targets, and if it is achieved, I believe that Mike's focus on profitability will mean it can be achieved at a net margin significantly higher than the 1.5% to 3% guidance range.
As long as that remains in prospect, I remain interested.
And all that said, I am wary and I share your concern. As part of that - and in the interests of full disclosure - yesterday, I DID sell down another small tranche in RL. So, in total, I have monetised 1/3rd of my initial $SGI holding which was built between Sep-23 and Aug-24. So, I have already recovered significantly more than my original investment.
It didn't pass the "sleep well at night" test, being such a large position for me in RL. I'll put a trade in today on SM, so that it is clear for everyone to see.
Disc: Held in RL and SM
All fair comments there @mikebrisy
I definitely agree with you about the communication with these guys. It needs to improve.
Great discussion @UlladullaDave and @mikebrisy , the promises of management have to be reviewed against their record to deliver and Mike has missed and is not owning that miss the way most investors would like to see. SGI is very much the Mike show, so I wouldn’t be in it assuming Mike is going to change. If you like the way he runs it and his results then stay, otherwise go – definitely some parallels to “Founder” dominated companies discussed here and in the media that have had issues with the leaders.
For my part I see Mike as laser focused on the bottom line, a refreshing change to the top line focus of most companies, and it is his performance at the bottom line that I am following and think he has delivered on.
I do have the 159k sales in my FY25 forecast but I am well below the 300k by FY28 for the very reason you highlight @UlladullaDave but I have maintained the EBITDA% assumption per @mikebrisy ’s points on a focus on profitability which for this company with thin margins is more important. Move a company from 3% to 6% NPAT% by cutting 3% of costs out of the company doubles profit, but for a 30% NPAT% a 3% improvement is just 10%.
Based on the forecast, if the price is $1.28 (PE 15) in FY28 your looking at a 19% compound return per year from the current price of $0.64. That is with a 30% short fall in the top line on the current target.
I note this is a forecast (ie guess), but it tells me that Mike can be Mike and miss the top line, but as long as he holds to a good track record for the bottom line, there is value potential.
Note I have not yet fully reviewed the result and the forecast is from late last year, so tweaks will follow but I don’t expect things to change enough to say sell.
Disc: I own RL & SM
Great summary @mikebrisy .
Continued Good Result for the half by Stealth and highlights the focus on discipline capital allocation and focus on profitability with every dollar earnt.
Look forward to the call in a couple of minutes.
Disc - Held IRL and SM
Great summation, as ever, @mikebrisy
I have little to add, other than woo hoo!
It's been a cracker of an investment, which looks easy in hindsight. But the journey here has felt anything but.. which is always how it goes.
I first bought in January2022 after @DrPete made a super compelling pitch. It then proceeded to drop 30%-odd and then went sideways for about 18 months (which felt like an eternity). But the thesis remained sound and so i continued to add. My conviction being bolstered by some excellent analysis from fellow Strawpeople.
I have sold in dribs and drabs along the way here on Strawman, but mainly to free up cash for other purchases (which, was probably a mistake!). In real life, I had to sell some to help fund our house deposit.. sadly.
The share price appreciation might make it look expensive (and it's certainly more expensive that what it was), but i estimate the forward PE to be around ~20x. Hardly demanding given their growth.
Mike reckons they are on track for their FY28 goal, which is for $15m in NPAT over the next 3.5 years. If they hit that, you'd only need shares to trade at a PE of 6.5x at that point to score a 10% average annual return. Seems like a very decent margin of safety to me.
If shares trade at a PE of (say) 15x at that stage, and they hit their target (never guaranteed), that's a FY2028 share price of just under $2.
@Strawman and @DrPete truly, my hat off to you guys for being able to spot some of these opportunities so early. And yes, it did seem heavy going for a while.
I don't have that skillset, but $SGI (and some others) have shown me that you can come later to the party and still do well.
And yes, the 2028 implied EPS is starting to look conservative! I want to do some work looking at what the % Net Margin might end up as.
This could still do very well from here, and Mike seems to have a very steady hand on the wheel.
I will second @Strawman 's WOO HOO as well as a massive call out for @DrPete at picking this and bring it to the SM community.
My buying patter is much the same as @Strawman but thankfully we already own our house so I didn't have to sell any. As such, like @mikebrisy it is my largest holding, after today by a very solid margin. Thank you for your analysis @mikebrisy of the result, I am yet to have time to look in detail, but I feel like Mike is doing the great job he has done for many years now and the market is starting to sit up and take notice.
PS: It is still under my fair value and I only assumed a $1.5m NPAT this year, not just in the first half - so am quite comfortable it still offers value. But a price over 70c may force me trim.
What's super interesting about these situations is that as the market cap rises, and liquidity improves, it puts shares in play for some real capital -- the kind controlled by fundies and the like.
For the most part, stocks like SGI are way too illiquid to touch when they are under $50m or so in market cap., and most players see them as a lobster trap. But that starts to shift as the business grows.
It's one of the few areas where you can (in theory) front-run the so-called "smart money". One of the reasons i'm fond of small caps. Of course, it doesnt always work out and these small caps (or, lets face it, microcaps) remain small indefinitely as they fail to gain any real traction. BUt you only need a few to really move the dial on your portfolio.
Mike hinted that there was more in the works yesterday!
If Mike raises his FY28 $300m revenue target guidance at the FY result, a few of us will slink away quielty. Until then, let's see. ;-)
An improved product portfolio is a key lever he is pulling to drive customer value,.. and it looks like these agreements will also contribute to ongoing margin expansion.
Disc. Held
Well Mike just filled 30m of the 140m in sales needed to get from FY25 159m to FY28 300m with an exclusive distribution agreement for CAT Power Tools, Wesco Power Tools and Harden Tools for Australia and NZ.
What’s more these are high margin at 40% wholesale, and if they sell through retail there margin increases 30-50%. Not current GM is around 30%
Well I am a happy shareholder with the price up 15% so it seems are others.
I'm trying really hard to stop it being my largest position but, alas, I've failed again.
:-)
Such a horrible problem to have @mikebrisy and yes, I'm a happy camper too.....for now!! All whilst still taking onboard the comments from @UlladullaDave and others.
It's important to not get too exited about short term moves - especially when it comes to small caps. Easy come, easy go.
Nevertheless...
@Strawman @mikebrisy @DrPete @UlladullaDave Given Strawman called out Stealth in todays member email and possible risks I will weigh in with one additional thought.
First off I don't own Stealth as it doesn't pass lots of my filters. As a result is a quick "kick out" at this point in it's journey for me rather than doing more work on it (namely low ROE and ROC plus high debt to equity).
However here is an additional risk that is somewhat unique to Strawpeople. Stealth is a low market cap and low liquidity company. About half the shares are owned by insiders which means there is only about $35 million in free float that isn't owned by insiders and a couple of fundies. And that means it only trades about $120k a day on average.
So, if it is the number one stock on Strawman and held by 70 + Strawpeople, I'd suggest fellow Strawpeople are responsible for a good chunk of the rise in the share price over the past year. I know we aren't all billionaires like Strawman but the average Strawperson holding all added together probably represents a nice little chunk of the total market cap.
Not the end of the world but it's at least possible that Strawpeople are helping quite a bit to drive this one up and that can obviously reverse if Strawpeople have a change of heart sometime in the future...
Can't believe I never considered that @Karmast, glad you raised it.
Actually, next AGM we should leverage that collective voting power to push for changes we think are worthwhile.
We could even go full Gamestop here.... (Joking!)
We could vote @Strawman or @Karmast or @DrPete a seat on the Board?
NOW you're talking @mikebrisy!
I hear @DrPete has some more time on his hands these days...
I'm in! Cushy job, $65k a year, do whatever the CEO wants, scoff dismissively at shareholder questions, that's how it works right?