Forum Topics DRO DRO ASX Announcements
Summer12
Added 5 months ago

Hope the link works.

Oleg Vornik speaks about the recent contract, potential bigger deals to come and future expansion in Europe.

https://ausbiz.com.au/media/droneshields-expansion-amid-rising-defence-demand?videoId=42596

Disc hold IRL & SM

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Strawman
Added 5 months ago

Very significant indeed @Summer12

Droneshield is really interesting, and I think is unfairly tainted by the "meme stock" label. Sure, a lot of hot "retail" money piled into based on little more than the hype surrounding drone technology and a share price that was shooting ever higher in 2024.. something that encouraged me to start selling down last year (although, naturally, well below the eventual high).

But, underneath it all, you have a business that is growing revenue at an incredible pace (an average CAGR of 76%pa in the last 3 years, albeit off a low base), and is set to do around $160m this year, which would be an increase from last year of ~178%

As of the last quarterly cash flow, they are still burning cash, but it looks like they'll hit breakeven in the near term, especially in EBITDA terms, and have a very healthy cash balance of almost $200m. Management have said fixed costs should be around $78m pa for the next little while, and with a gross margin of ~70% that means they break even at $112m or so.

The forward P/S is somewhere around 10x, which is up there, but then again they are growing like the clappers. And today's announcement shows how just one big win can really change the equation.

Of course, better or just better marketed tech can easily steal share and further big wins may not be forthcoming. Maybe there are a few operational blunders. Under these kinds of scenarios, a lot of growth CAPEX may prove unjustified, as will the current share price.

But, at the same time, if sales momentum continues apace, and costs well contained, shares could easily be said to be cheap. It's really tough to value, but my point is that you have a business with clear sales traction, a big tailwind and a well padded balance sheet -- one in which the market got way carried away with, but has since started to validate some rather bullish expectations.

I probably should have taken more notice at the start of the year when shares got as low as 60c.

Anyway, was thinking of dipping my toe back in the water as i read the announcement pre-open... but a 20% pop today has my inner tight wad second guessing himself.

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Scot1963
Added 5 months ago

The drone space is hyper active due to advances demonstrated regularly in Ukraine. There are lots of horses in this race. And lots of money being invested. I wonder that like Quantum or AI it is too early to pick the horse. Based on words said about investing in these spaces, and the nature of the quickly evolving technology, has Droneshield emerged from the pack?

Held in SM but not in RL

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Metis
Added 5 months ago

I thought I was so clever selling 100% of my RL portion at 2.10 and 2.45 a year ago. I still think it was the right call at that time. But who knows what the long term right decision is.

It gave me enough capital to take a shot at a percentage of a small private company I liked. But gee capital allocation is a tough thing when you are looking in hindsight. So difficult to weigh all the decision you make. I’ll know in 2-3 years for this one I guess ????

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JohnnyM
Added 5 months ago

G’day @Metis when it comes to investing I lean in to being lazy.. the less you transact the better your results.. do your homework well and invest as much as you can stomach.. so much that it hurts if you got it wrong, you’ll then do your research better on the next one!!

I bought Droneshield at 30 cents in November 2023 and anytime I think of selling I listen to Strawman talk about Promedicus..

The thesis for long term growth is clear.. both military and civilian uses will go through the roof.. DRO need to solve for tethered drones but I’m sure are on it and have the R&D budget to deliver and hopefully stay ahead of competition.

Mr Market will gyrate wildly, but fuck him.. he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.. He thinks CBA at $190 is good value. ????

Hopefully the price dips again and you get an opportunity to get onboard..

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Escapetrader
Added 5 months ago

I’m very bullish on Droneshield. I am a CASA ReOC certified Drone pilot for TV purposes and know how bloody dangerous they could/can be in the wrong hands.

Not that i read tea leaves but I think Droneshield has a very serious shot at landing the SIP role in the Land156 Aus Defence tender, due to be announced imminently, which could be another 2-3 hundred million for Droneshield over the next few years.

There will be downside risk if they don’t win that (i think its partly priced in) but if they are successful I think we are headed above $3 in the short term.

Just my gut feeling.

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Metis
Added 5 months ago

@JohnnyM Definitely agree that if you can stay the course in the right business the outcome can be phenomenal. And being lazy with trading and checking the portfolio is a real skill. I wish I had a bit more of it.

When it came to droneshield it grew 9x and close to 50% of my RL portfolio and 30% of my gross wealth. This was the point for me where value vs conviction became very very lopsided. The value in my life of that money became too great. Conviction and playing out multiple different “war time” scenarios I guess would help long term holding, but I just saw the possible downside as too much for that level of holding and sold. I’m happy with that, I have been burnt before by this very scenario. However it’s taught me also that no two company is alike, despite similarities in share price movement. Past scars don’t always protect you.

The private company I used part of that money to buy 10% of has just got on the shelves at Woolies so we shall see what the long term outcome is in about 3-5 years.

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