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Added 3 months ago

Annual Report

Just saw the $SGI annual report drop. With revenue at $141.7m (H1 was $71.5m) and H2 usually a bit stronger, does this indicate another weak organic revenue growth performance from the business?

I'm focused elsewhere this morning, and will return to this later.

NPAT at $3.1m also a bit meh 1H was $1.58m.

Thoughts?

Disc: Held on SM


DrPete
Added 2 months ago

I've only recently returned from some travelling, so I'm late to review the Stealth FY25 results. Overall I thought the results were pretty solid. Once again almost every metric improved, with Stealth now solidly profitable despite a challenging economy. The one clear disappointment, already highlighted by @mikebrisy, @Tom73 and @Strawman, is weak organic growth.

Here are the notes I made while listening to Mike's presentation and trawling through the results. Feel free to skip these if you're not interested in the detail, I'm mostly recording them here for future reference. I'll separately revise my valuation for Stealth - spoiler, it is essentially unchanged.

Notes from FY25 results:

  • Results presented by CEO Mike Arnold who spoke comfortably, positively and knowledgeably. Overall, I thought the results were solid. Again, almost every metric is steadily improving.
  • Continues to promote FY28 target of $300m in sales, 8%+ EBITDA, 5%+ NPAT
  • Mike: “FY25 results aligned to FY28 plan”; that's hard to reconcile that given it involves doubling revenue in 3 years; $300m will require 27% CAGR from FY25 sales
  • Mike mentioned that the many acquisitions over the life of Stealth have add significant shareholder value through scale benefits, operating leverage, cost synergies, Force gave HK/China relationships and opportunities (products, distribution networks); curiously though there was no mention of future growth through acquisition, with the graph showing the bridge between current revenue and $300m primarily based on existing strategic initiatives
  • Exclusive/private label already 16% of sales (FY28 original target was 10%); EBITDA margin ahead of plan
  • The presentation focused on sales of $145m rather than revenue of $142m, which felt a tad misleading, and unnecessary given the difference is small; it suggests Mike is sensitive to revenue not being as high as he'd hoped; thankfully no normalised or underlying figures reported
  • Doubled the number of shareholders over last couple of years, and looking to double again over roughly next 12 months, although I’m not sure how that will happen or why this warrants attention
  • Revenue ($145m sales, $142m revenue), EBITDA (7%), NPAT ($3.1m, 2.2%), EPS (2.6c), net debt ($6.8m), cash ($14.4m), dividend (1c per share, up from 0.84c, 42% of earnings), all up
  • Last year gave up $11m revenue from closure of underperforming areas of the business
  • Capex FY24 1.5m, FY25 4.8, will return to <1>
  • Blamed drop in cashflow from operations (7.8 to 6.7) on 2.7m of cash received on 1 and 2 Jul; bit weak given delays can be expected as BAU; but the delayed cash should boost H1FY26 cashflow - we’ll see if that occurs
  • Free cashflow dropped 4.7m to 0.1m; biggest impact was increase in capex (see above) which Mike said would return to normal (ie reduce by ~3m) in FY26
  • Industrial division grew 3% from 101 to 104m, excluding FY24 11m in sales that were discontinued (reduction from 9 to 7 company owned stores, 53 to 36 trade partner stores, 6 to 0 onsite customer stores)
  • Doesn’t line up with “run rate of $159m” (incl Force) reported at FY24 AGM
  • Below the 9% like-for-like growth reported in H1FY25
  • Doesn’t hit guides of 10% and “double digit” organic growth given in FY24
  • Mike tried to explain the low organic growth with “Our competitors had sales downgrades” which is accurate, eg Wesfarmers Industrial and Safety reported a revenue decline of 1% to $2.0b, EBITDA decline of 2% to $191m (9.6%), estimated (by ChatGPT) NPAT of $76m (3.8%)
  • Consumer products sales $41.4m; FY24 Force revenue was reported as $44m at time of acquisition, so there’s a drop in revenue in this division
  • There is a lot changing in the drive to hit the $300m goal
  • New digital channels, 3 new online shops with JB Hifi marketplace, Woolworths marketplace and own United Supply Co platform
  • Loyalty program, has started in 22 stores, with Heatleys to be added Oct
  • Tool hire starting 1 Oct
  • Private label products in both industrial and consumer segments
  • Exclusive distribution agreements
  • Mike’s strategic plan “sounds” good, we’ll see how it plays out


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Tom73
Added 3 months ago

FY25 Results Presentation (3/9/25)

It was a long presentation and deck, but Mike powered through it like a Panzer Division through Poland, focusing on the underlying strategic objectives of the business which remains consistent. The path is not a straight line to FY28 he noted, so he dismissed any interim guidance and flagged track record for credibility. Points I noted:

·        FY25 Capex of 3.3% of sales is more than double the expected amount going forward.

·        ROI rather than top line growth for the sake of it remains the north star

·        FY28 targets are on track, several already achieved but are remaining as is and of the current initiatives no one in particular is critical to reaching the sales target.

·        Mike was more candid on slipping timelines (see slide 32) for growth initiatives, talking directly to the drop shipping strategy in particular which has been a pain point for investors.

·        A lot of questions at the end which emphasis’s Mikes point investor numbers have doubled and liquidity has improved significantly over the past year.

·        Mike flagged the $2.7m of receipts landed in the first week of July that were expected in the year that explains the YoY operating CF variances and was generally very positive about debt and cash management. Slide 50 is a very good view of capital management, the capital raise effectively covered Growth Enabled Initiative capex and repayment of borrowings.

·        Mike continues to be very business finance metric focused, ratio’s and % compared to industry norms, rationalising expenses out of the business (doesn’t believe in redundancy… and someone leaving is an opportunity to rearrange work rather than hire a replacement).

·        Sounds like the change in CFO’s was to Mikes satisfaction.

·        The trade war between China and the US is now playing in SGI’s favour as Chinees vendors are more willing to reduce prices and shipping costs are down. Freight costs was a point in the slide deck explaining reduced GP%. 

·        Mike focused on GP% improvements expected going forward from the new range and business lines. A question asked about the GP% for the lease business, which Mike said was going to be 85%.

·        Inventory to sales ratio control was seen as “critical”, cash conversion of sales a focus.

·        Mike wants us to use the DRP, flagging how well those who took up the DRP at 22c last year have done.

Mike founded the business and runs it like it’s his own and for the long term. Profit is important but so is growth, but only growth that adds to profit. We saw some improved transparency on operational outcomes which is good, but need to be mindful that it’s Mike’s business and he will tell us what he wants, but it is clear he is very shareholder aligned.

Disc: I own RL+SM

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mikebrisy
Added 3 months ago

Thanks for the notes @Tom73. I'd wanted to attend this morning, but have been focused on other matters.

To be clear, I have now sold $SGI in RL and SM, as we've seen two consecutive years where organic revenue growth has underwhelmed (i.e., there hasn't been any). Sure, he's been able to drive profit growth by high-grading the product line and closing unprofitable stores, and I commend the focus on margin over revenue, however, at some point there has to be some organic revenue growth for the investment thesis to play out.

Now, I know the macro has been tough, and several distributors has had sluggish revenue growth. But not all.

Furthermore, I am always alerted when CEOs/CFOs talk about receipts or revenue recognised just after the close of the reporting period, for "reason X".The fact is that this is BAU, and if it is material and/or repeated, then it is a sign that either the businesses operational processes need improvement, or they are exposed to higher risk customers. (I am making a generalisation here, and not an $SGI-specific comment.)

So I've taken all my profits (selling most of my RL some time ago, and the rest of my SM recently), and decided to sit on the sidelines. If there is evidence of good organic revenue growth at the next HY report, which demonstrates the thesis is intact, I'll definitely consider stepping back in, even if I've lost some of the value.

The other things that bothered me, is when I did a quick flick through the slide deck, I couldn't see a Pro Forma comparison for Stealth + Force. Have you seen it anywhere? If so, just point me in the right direction.

I get very nervous when firms do significant M&A and don't present Pro Forma results, because it means you can lose sight of what is going on for a year at least. Maybe it is there, and I just haven't found it yet.

Disc: Not held in RL and SM

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Tom73
Added 3 months ago

Presentation recording released to ASX:

pdf

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UlladullaDave
Added 3 months ago

Force was doing $44m in annual revenue. Stealth did $113m in FY24. It seems like a pretty big miss when the Force acquisition talked about the combined group doing $159m in Fy24, but FY25 has come in at $141m.

Perhaps it explains why they are moving into consumer products.

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Strawman
Added 3 months ago

These results look strong on a full-year basis, but it is fair to point out the lack of growth between the first and second halves of FY25. And the revenue uplift came entirely from the Force acquisition, with no organic growth. A large part of that was due to previously flagged store closures and site right-sizing, which should provide a stronger base for future growth...but the fact remains that the legacy business went backwards in FY25.

The main story here is margin improvement driving higher profitability (importantly, on an EPS basis), which is clear in the FY25 results. It was also encouraging to see management reiterate the FY28 $300m sales target, along with growth in private label volumes and new distribution agreements. That said, the credibility of the FY28 target rests on a genuine return to organic growth (management has said ~75% of the plan should be organic).

On valuation, shares are trading on about 26x FY25 earnings, which is getting up there. But if they can deliver any reasonable level of growth, it becomes justifiable. For example, even if sales "only" reach $250m by FY28 with margins unchanged (a miss on their target), EPS would be around 5.25c. That would imply only a 17x PE multiple in FY28 to deliver ~10% CAGR (excluding dividends).

The things to watch from here are:

  • A return to organic growth, enough that the FY28 target remains credible
  • Continued margin expansion
  • Disciplined capital management, avoiding excessive leverage and ensuring good returns on capex (and no dumb acquisitions!)


I am still comfortable holding while this thesis remains intact.

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Tom73
Added 3 months ago

FY25 Results (27/8/25)

At a glance there is a lot to be positive on and negative on for FY25. The themes of the first half continue and we continue to cling to a $300m FY28 sales target wondering what mix of organic and acquired growth will make it happen if it does. Some of the key takeaways I have gleaned so far:

The Negatives:

·        Revenue is the big one, it’s gone backwards from the proforma $159m on the Force acquisition to $145m. Store rationalisation is part of the story, but there is still flat or negative organic growth. We have had a series of initiatives (hire, loyalty, exclusive range) announced which should help, but we are yet to see results.

·        Gross Margin: dropping from 29.6% in FY24 to 28.7% is a surprise, it was 29.4% at the half year, so the damage has been done in the second half and the question has to be raised, was this discounting to chase sales, an impact of store exits and inventory rationalisation or something benign. To be fair, GM% has never been a strong focus of the business, EBITDA% has been. The talk on GM% improving range initiatives has been relatively recent and ultimately to deliver a bottom-line result as a priority.

·        FCF: Increased capital investment and lower operating cash flows saw what has been a strength of SGI drop from +$4.7m to flat (+$0.1m). This is even more stark when you consider working capital increase in FY24 provided a $4.4m headwind while in FY25 working capital is dropped $0.1m so no real impact. Cash conversion ratio was down from 128% in FY24 to 68% in FY25. Note that Net Debt was quoted as coming down from $10.8m to $6.8m, this is due to the capital raise of net $7.1m offset by $0.6m of the $3.1m gap is the dividend, the rest financing costs.


The Positives:

·        NPAT/EBITDA%: These are in line with H1 (pre FX adj), but I would reflect that H1 was an upside surprise and both are tracking better than FY28 targets. Most businesses priorities top line performance at the expense of the bottom line, SGI has to date done the opposite and I am willing to forgive topline shortfalls if profit continues to perform well, in fact I expect it as my FY28 sales expectations are $250m and provided they exceed NPAT% and EBITDA% targets then EPS targets are reached.

·        Working Capital: As note when talking about cash flow, working capital was basically flat. Which is actually a fantastic result given sales and by proxy the business size grew by 21.4%. SGI has from the outset continually impressed me with their inventory management in particular. Much of the investment thesis for SGI for me has been scaling efficiencies and discipline on working capital and operating margins which continues to hold.

·        FX Reclassification: H1 FY25 had $523k of FX gain in other income. This has now been classed as Other Comprehensive Income (ie below NPAT), which I think is a good move. It hasn’t been an issue in prior years and one of my issues with the H1 result was that a third of the profit was this amount. So the outcome is that adjustment H2 NPAT was about double the adjusted H1 NPAT.

So brick bats and bouquets in the result and I am sure once everyone has had time to look in depth outside of the deluge of results there will be plenty more to discuss or think about.

Disc: I own RL+SM

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