Forum Topics RUL RUL #timetosell?

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Added 3 months ago

Question for the brains trust - I own RPM IRL, is it time to sell or better to wait until a more solid offer is announced after the respective companies do their due diligence? And also given the offer is $5 per share why is the share price currently sitting around $4.65? Is this the market pricing in uncertainty?

Thanks to anyone who can help a newbie out!

UncleWally
Added 3 months ago

@Varmallama My current thinking is to do nothing. I'm quite happy to wait and see what happens. It's not as if I currently have a better idea to invest in and I do have some cash up my sleeve IRL so I don't need to sell my RUL holding at this point. If I did then I would have to consider the opportunity cost of not investing in that alternative idea as opposed to the extra odd 50c should CAT acquire RUL in a few months time.

I might consider reducing the size of my holding if it was large to de-risk any drop in share price if the deal fell through but in any event that wouldn't concern me  if that happened.

In fact if the deal fell through and the SP did retrace back to pre aquisition levels I might even consider topping up. It's something I would consider at the time afterall RUL has been agressively buying back shares themselves for some time so if its good enough for them to do it....

RPM Global is a good business that is For Sale. They have been working towards this end for sometime, it's been widely tipped that RUL would eventually be sold. If the CAT deal doesn't happen that would open the door for someone else somewhere down the track. It wouldn't be the 1st time CEO, Richard Mathews has built up a mining software business and sold it so it's a nice position for a fellow shareholder to find themselves in.

Held on SM & IRL

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mikebrisy
Added 3 months ago

@Varmallama welcome to the SM community!

You'll find quite a bit has been written on this topic under the "$RUL/Results" Straw/Forum, including several calculations by me that show how I am thinking about it. (Rightly or wrongly!)

Basically, you are right, the current discount to $5.00 is a combination of 1) time value of money, given that $5.00 is still a good 4-5 months aways and 2) Risk of deal not completing and the the SP falling back to somewhere south of $4.00.

And there is a third component, that a superior offer emerges. However, I think it is fair to say that the balance of views expressed here on this platform indicate that is unlikley, because of the strategic fit with Caterpillar and their knowledge of the $RUL product set and business more generally. Additionally, $RUL essentially ran an auction with a lot of interest from which Caterpiller emerged as the top bidder. So this is a different quality of bid than your average NBIO that come out of the blue.

Anyway, each investor has to make up their own mind based on how they evaluate those factors.

Personally, I think I am going to hold out, partly because the worst case scenario is that I continue to have $RUL in my portfolio, which wouldn't be a bad outcome, albeit $5.00 is full value IMO. Other considerations are that I still have some cash to deploy, and also some tail holdings that I am considering exiting. So, I don't "Need" the $RUL funds yet.

Should I need the funds, I'd probably have another look around $4.80, but at the moment it seems on balance I'd be leaving too much on the table if I'd sold today.

Good luck with your decision. Nice problem to have!

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stevegreenycom
Added 3 months ago

I tend to agree @mikebrisy the current share price leaves a bit too much on the table to exit, I think it is even more of a buy than anything. I take on board the comments about unlikelihood of another bidder, but you never know. Whilst it has only been a few weeks since this bid was announced, I note that for what it is worth the market sentiment for this area of the market seems quite bullish. So yes, there is the risk of the SP falling back "somewhere south of $4", but I wonder even in that scenario whether it would fall much below $4, so downside risk (low probability also) seems tolerable to me.

I am thinking there is a bit of a margin left to the $5 mark well firstly because the bid is just at the indicative stages so that means some natural uncertainty still. Secondly, it seems like a stock that has had many retail investor fans (popular on strawman also I think), and the tendency in that space I usually find is for such investors to want to bank a big winner on the first takeover bid as soon as one sees the big spike.

As you confess to being a newbie @Varmallama the usual stuff not advice blah blah applies if you read this. My comments might be slightly different if one had a huge weight to a big share portfolio of their life savings in RUL, maybe some risk management might see me tempted to take some of the table. On the other hand, if it's just circa 5% of a portfolio or less I will stick my neck out and definitely stay in it for hopefully bit more upside. (hope I haven't jinxed it!). I think from memory I did well on the stock about 4 years ago for a year when it rode up to $2. In hindsight I should have just kept it, well done to those who did.

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