Forum Topics AHL AHL Investment review (23/9/25)

Pinned straw:

Last edited 2 months ago

Adrad is profit and cashflow positive with every expectation of remaining so and has a very undemanding PE under 10. Growth is anaemic but positive with several catalysts in play to maintain or grow it (Alu Flue, Data Centres, Thailand margin and Asia market options), but management changes, operational execution and founder over hang (60% shareholder) are areas of concern that seem to have let the share price wallow for the last few years and may continue to impact investor returns.

So in reviewing the business, I compare to my thesis from when I bought in in 2023, it had IPO’s less than a year earlier and was down on the IPO price by over 30%. Darryl Abotomey had stepped in to fill an CEO void and brought credibility and a good track record to a company that had little of either on the ASX. His departure as CEO was not an issue as he took a place on the board, but now he has left the board the gap is telling – so does this break the thesis?

Reviewing the key thesis drivers from when I originally invested:

1.    Management acuity: Darryl was the key element of this, the alternative was that post his departure that enough of his influence was culturally embedded that it was less of an issue. But the recent turnover of CEO and Chair kills that possibility and I have little insight into the founder who owns a lot of the company and I assume is a key voice on the board that may be why Darryl left.

2.    Established Niche Leader: Adrad is the leader in Heat Transfer Solutions in Australia, this seems to be maintained but we don’t see any tangible improvements in the business based on this leadership. The increase in data centre work is promising as is the Alu Flu, but noting to get excited about yet so it’s hard to attribute any value to these or expectation of growth.

3.    Profitable: The company remains solidly profitable, the problem however is profit growth is lacking due to costs have increased 17% in the last 2 years, sales by 7% but thanks to improved gross margins, gross profit has improved 10%. So Net Profit % has dropped from 3.9% to 3.7%. Costs have gone up 12.0m (ignoring IPO costs), 4m in straight employee costs but another 3.1m “employee type” expenses (Labour hire & Trave, training,…) have been added to other expenses. 

4.    Cash: Working capital changes have impacted this over the years but in general FCF has been solidly positive. There is also $18m of cash on hand, so the business is well funded and almost a third of the market cap is backed by cash.

 

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5.    Operating Leverage: Gross margins have improved as anticipated, but we are not seeing operating leverage due to operating costs. It could be a case of settling the cost base of the business over the last couple of years to that suitable for a listed company, but this has been a problem.  Fixing it is an opportunity for operating leverage, but there is no evidence of it happening or being prioritised strongly. The NZ operation exit earlier this year will help it should be noted, but more is needed.

Conclusion

Thesis is mostly busted. 

I no longer intend on holding Adrad to wait for the thesis play out, but am not dumping my shares in a rush. I view it as undervalued even if the thesis doesn't play out, with a value of almost double the current price if top and bottom line can grow at 5% and the PE lifts to around 15 over the next few years. Even at the current PE it’s worth $1.10 on those assumptions at a 11% discount based on modelling I have done (acknowledging this is ball park, but a clear margin of safety).

I am also not rushing because it is very thinly traded and that also flags a major issue I will be more mindful of in the future. Namely the 60% odd holding by the founder and also the lack of shares held by other directors or KMP’s or used in CEO incentives. I suspect control issues with the founder based on this, which may be the reason for Darryls and the previous CEO’s departure, but simply not knowing much about the founder who controls the company is an issue.

Disc: I currently own but intend on selling due to thesis concerns and seeing better opportunities.

Wini
Added 2 months ago

@Tom73 Pure speculation but it wouldn't surprise me if the turnover at board and exec levels is coming from difficulties with Gary Washington as 60% shareholder. Pre-IPO AHL was run as a classic private business with plenty of related party transactions.

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Not claiming any impropriety, but it's clear to me that when it listed this business wasn't ready for proper governance as a publicly listed business with minority shareholders. I thought having Daryl Abotomey and Donald McGurk on the board would assist in that transition, but the turnover doesn't fill me with confidence.

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jcmleng
Added 2 months ago

@Tom73 , great summary and agree! @Wini, agree with your sentiments. Doesnt look like old Gary has Frozen-obssessed grandkids (or kids) as it seems clear that "Let It Go" has not been running in an endless loop in his household for him to internalise and act on that very relevant message ...

I was watching the Director exits closely. Daryl A strikes me as a "my-way-or-highway" sort of dude - it looks like he lost out in whatever internal strife there might have been, so he voted with his feet. Daryl also did not quite have as much skin in the game as he had no shares. So, concluding that "its all been a bit too hard effecting change" is not an unreasonable summary.

AHL has and still is a "Good, BUT .... " holding ... I do not think the thesis is busted, but this may now have moved more into a Dividend/Turnaround holding, it feels.

As some volume emerged, decided to lighten AHL and exited ~21% of my holdings this morning to reflect this increased thesis risk.

Discl: Held IRL and in SM

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Strawman
Added 2 months ago

We aren't left with much choice but to speculate in this instance, and we'll probably never know as to what politics may or may not have been going on behind the scenes. It could even be a total nothing burger.

But that guess sure feels on the money @Wini.

I've suffered in the past as a result of ignoring the tingling spidey sense of the community, so like you @jcmleng I'm definitely leaning to a more cautious stance. It'd be an outright bust for me too @Tom73, but my hope is that there has been enough operational low hanging fruits picked, and a bit of clear air after some (hopefully) one-off issues have passed, that there'll still be a reasonable move forward on the earnings front from here.. Then again, hope is not an investment strategy!

We'll see what the next set of results shows, but I'll likely back out if we dont see some genuine positives.

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Tom73
Added 2 months ago

To clarify the “thesis busted” on AHL, I still see a plenty of value, I just don’t see the catalyst for the additional value that made it the asymmetric bet I was seeking any more. Hence, no rush to exit, but selling AHL is where I will look to fund other opportunities I find.

So I agree @Strawman that there is still plenty of low hanging operation fruit, I just think less is going to be picked and it’s going to take longer to pick it. So I am not as quick to exit as @jcmleng at the current price, but at $0.90+ I would even without needing the cash.

Thank you @Wini for fleshing out the founder matter more clearly. It may be a nothing burger as @Strawman puts it, but circumstantial evidence indicates it needs considering and is another straw of doubt on the increasingly overburdened AHL camel…

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