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Pinned straw:

Added 2 months ago

I've been taking a look at this stock recently, hence the request for a meeting which @Strawman has actioned (thanks again). It has some of the characteristics which get me interested. SAAS model, long growth runway, inflecting profitability.

Its SP has been smashed following the Quarterly Report released 2 days ago (20th Jan) falling ~ 30%.

The main concerns appear to be missed revenue expectations and foreign currency headwinds (as US denominated revenue is very significant for QOR).

Nevertheless QOR demonstrated FCF profitability of 8.9 mil for the 1st half 2026, gross margins of 92%, Net retention of 102%(?) and ARR growth of 19%.

I think part of the headwind is also the sticky inflation narrative which I think is affecting a lot of tech stocks.

Finally I guess as referenced in the announcement there's concern for SAAS businesses out of the AI boom and the ease with which businesses might engineer their own solutions and dump SAAS subscriptions. Not an issue at this early stage as demonstrated by the retention above. Although I'm not confident that this is not an issue I do wonder if there are parallels to the Resmed ozempic crisis of confidence and we all know how that turned out... Looking forward to the meeting.

Rocket6
Added 2 months ago

I have been doing the same @GazD following recent share price pressure.

At a high level, the result is impressive enough. Nice increases to ARR and cash receipts vs pcp. You cant do much about FX movements working against you, either.

I came away with a different take to you though. @twee articulates the typical strength in the Q1 and Q2 quarters for Qoria, which we are obviously coming out of, and they haven't exactly shot the lights out. They are still a business in growth mode, but their growth looks like it is becoming more expensive -- go back a year and compare the quarters (as below), paying particular attention to advertising and marketing costs.

FY25 Q2

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FY26 Q2

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This is a semi red flag for me. I also don't buy them being cash flow positive argument when incorporating their development costs of 8m. That is a cost of doing business, so they are in the red -4m when you add that in.

So we have a business with significant debt, losing money (a few mil to be exact from this quarter) and are staring down the barrel of a half that is typically much weaker for them.

After the recent share price hammering, they are trading on a forward revenue of around 4x. That is more respectable, at least, and probably supports any argument that they were overpriced.

Perhaps I am being too harsh, but in this instance I think the market is right to punish them.

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twee
Added 2 months ago

With QOR it's cyclical, so the bulk of the cash comes in H1, it's simplistic to just look at H1 FCF.

My 2 cents as someone who doesn't know the company well.

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GazD
Added 2 months ago

That's true @twee I may have misspoken with 'inflecting profitability' I guess I meant around that mark. I guess it's the trends I'm focused on:


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mikebrisy
Added 2 months ago

“ I do wonder if there are parallels to the Resmed ozempic crisis of confidence and we all know how that turned out.”

@GazD you’ve articulated precisely what I’ve been thinking.

Yes, AI will impact enterprise software, however I think it’s going to take time, and there will be winners and losers, IMO. Among the winners I expect to see those who today are experimenting and investing in AI. Not all will succeed.

As the saying goes:

Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”

Anyone would be a fool to deny that new technologies disrupt established business models.But I think the $RMD analogy is a good one. Yes there is an impact, but 3 years down the track there is as much evidence (or more) that it will be a positive one as there is that it will be negative. And in reality, I think it is fair to say that the jury is still out as to the long term impact.

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Chagsy
Added 2 months ago

I’ve got to say I really don’t understand the impacts well. I’ve been trying to get up to speed but still struggle with where this is likely to be an extinction event to a business model, and where it is an opportunity. Am I right in thinking that if a SaaS does not have access to the data, its screwed? Is it that simple?

Heres an article that delves further into the issue. I’m going to have to re-read it a few times I think.

https://open.substack.com/pub/mule/p/the-death-of-software-20-a-better?r=qbucq&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay

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mikebrisy
Added 2 months ago

@Chagsy as a non-computer scientist, I get the general gist of the article that AI is going to transform software architecture. But I don't follow the leap to the death-of-software. So, yes, I'll need to educate myself and re-read, as I accept I am the dumy here.

My mental model is that as long as the SaaS firms have codified the business processes, control the human (customer and customer's customer) interfaces, and "store/own/can access" all the data flowing through the process, then for the SaaS firm to remain relevant, it has to embrace AI, start experiementing with it, investing in it and deploying it, and adapting its technology architecture to remain at the cutting edge.

Clearly, there are going to winners and losers here. But SaaS firms adapt. For example, $TNE are constantly telling investors that they have re-architected their entire code stack 3 or is it 4 times (I forget which) over the last 25 years. That's not something that every SaaS player can claim, but it is a required capability that seems obvious to me.

Software firms are deep experts in their client's industries - or, in the case of $RMD for example - they have already integrated data/SaaS/Software into their product offerings (masks/machines), both to 1) drive their own innovation processes and 2) offer customers more value, including new services.

I think the article once again exemplifies why it was so important for $WTC to shift from "module and seat-based" pricing to transaction/value-based pricing. Others are also doing that (e.g. $SDR), and I am less clear how well others (like $XRO and $TNE) are approaching this.

But to your observation/question - yes, I don't see the value of owning a SaaS company that doesn't "own" or is able to "access" customer data. Controlling the data is am important part of the SaaS company's moat, IMO.

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jcmleng
Added a month ago

Discl: Not Held, Losing Interest ..

A bearish case on Livewire Markets to add to the mix: https://www.livewiremarkets.com/wires/when-we-say-no-qoria-case-study

I have realised that over the last 3-6M, I have progressively, but decisively, changed my mindset around SAAS companies. In thinking back, I think this change in approach came about after spending time working through KYP and SKK, and to some extent, RTH, and coming to the realisation that there are SAAS companies, and there are SAAS companies.

Merely having a software product, recurring SAAS revenue, high margins isn't good enough any more. The underlying product and the moat around that product is what I focus on as my start point criteria. That must not only be clear, but it needs to sharply resonate. This is not quite the case for QOR for me, as yet.

Will wait for the SM QOR session, then go from there ....

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